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OrlandoDem2

(2,084 posts)
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 09:51 AM Nov 2018

Should Democrats in the House revive the old immigration bills from

the Bush administration? If I recall correctly they had bipartisan support. I believe they called for border security, provisions for undocumented people to remain legally, etc. of course, there was no wall.

I personally think we should. If it passes, it takes immigration off the table. If it dies in the Senate or is vetoed it is proof the KGOP doesn’t want to solve the problem.

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Should Democrats in the House revive the old immigration bills from (Original Post) OrlandoDem2 Nov 2018 OP
I think its already been tried in the Senate Jersey Devil Nov 2018 #1
Maybe, but can't see the RW going for it MichMan Nov 2018 #2
That is a good question and it is open for debate. I believe we need to try something here: OrlandoDem2 Nov 2018 #3

Jersey Devil

(9,886 posts)
1. I think its already been tried in the Senate
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 09:56 AM
Nov 2018

where there was a bipartisan agreement between certain Senators, but it is my understanding that McConnell won't let it come to the floor. Now that we have the House we could take that agreement and pass it in the House, which should force the Senate to let it come to a vote. Getting the issue off the table or proving Trump doesn't really care about it except to use as a wedge could be important as you suggest.

MichMan

(12,096 posts)
2. Maybe, but can't see the RW going for it
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 10:50 AM
Nov 2018

Can't see the RW agreeing to anything that appears to be amnesty.

Compromise involves both sides giving up something to reach consensus. Everyone says we need comprehensive immigration reform, but everybody's definition of "comprehensive" is different

What would we be willing to give up in order to forge an agreement ?

OrlandoDem2

(2,084 posts)
3. That is a good question and it is open for debate. I believe we need to try something here:
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 01:30 PM
Nov 2018

I’m open to compromise but as you said, the question is what do we give in order to get a bill.

The worst thing that happen, the way I see it, is nothing happens but we get to use immigration as an issue. We’d get to tell the country the GOP doesn’t want to fix the problem, only demagogue it.

Best case is we get the issue off the table.

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