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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA timely reminder from Stephen King
When Al Franken was accused of sexual impropriety, Susan Collins demanded he resign. Without a hearing.Link to tweet
MineralMan
(146,325 posts)I hope to their regret.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Almost all the Democratic Senators. 32, I think? Including Schumer.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)to be denied.
Never forget.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Nothing. And several were anonymous...names unknown to the Democratic Senators.
And none of the stories I heard amounted to sexual harassment, that I could see.
It was a railroad. How hurt he must have been. When you become too popular, the ones who wanted to be popular go after you.
roamer65
(36,747 posts)olegramps
(8,200 posts)Oh, I agree with you completely. The reps are disgusting. The reps should be destroyed.
Grokenstein
(5,727 posts)...in fact, I KEEP hearing that.
But then election time comes around and then I start hearing "both sides bad" and "just walk away" and "muh clean conscience" and here we are.
Liberalagogo
(1,770 posts)And we need to start acting like we are.
YessirAtsaFact
(2,064 posts)Today's repugnant goon politician is going to act in bad faith, use smear tactics and distortions as a matter of course.
We really shouldn't expect anything else.
Bottom line is that that the current republican party can't be trusted.
Liberalagogo
(1,770 posts)and be willing to get our hands dirty. If the worst thing that comes out of this is that we have to be hypocrites, we should just consider ourselves lucky.
This is going to get more ugly than we ever thought possible.
FakeNoose
(32,722 posts)SergeStorms
(19,204 posts)It's the Party of Trump now, and you know that piece of shit and his party are going down, HARD!
They need to go the way of the Whigs.
olegramps
(8,200 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,032 posts)zentrum
(9,865 posts)....planning to run again. Many say this was all an audition to be on the board of big pundit-think tank. They say the multi-million dollar "arrangement was probably made at the Kennubunkport compound where she visited the Bush's several weeks ago.
Kavenaugh is very important to the Repug economic agenda and will ensconce it in stone.
dalton99a
(81,568 posts)Demovictory9
(32,470 posts)Paladin
(28,271 posts)Julian Englis
(2,309 posts)Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)Voices Of Reason
(16 posts)Al Franken should have waited and rode the storm out. He was a great part of Congress and I think he was treated unfairly.
dchill
(38,517 posts)Then I agree with you.
hostalover
(447 posts)bdamomma
(63,918 posts)Senator Franken was never given the chance to be questioned either correct? His ousting was not right.
benld74
(9,909 posts)Liberalagogo
(1,770 posts)because I pointed out that this certain poster who was defending the ousting of Franken was on a fucking high horse and need to STFU.
AlexSFCA
(6,139 posts)she praised him in 45 min speech and strongly endorsed him for SC court as a model justice for generation to come. She described him as possibly the of the best justices to be. I despise this woman so much now, what a waste of life to throw it all away and irreversibly damage your karma. I predict shell spend her retirement in regret realizing her grandkids will be paying for what she did singlehandedly. She is a heartless woman now but she may wake up once she is out of politics.
olegramps
(8,200 posts)YessirAtsaFact
(2,064 posts)The repugnant goon part has adopted a scorched earth policy dating back for decades.
It is import to remember Trump isn't some aberration of republican philosophy, he is just the next logical step in dishonest, scorched earth politics. Fox Noise and hate radio paved the way for Trump to spread conspiracy theories. Don the Con just took the lying to another level.
Expecting today's repug party to act in good faith is a mistake. Nothing matters to them except winning.
Susan Collins will of course have different standards of behavior for Democrats and repugnant goon politicians - and judges.
Mitch Mcturtle will of course consider delaying Obama's SCOTUS pick for a year nothing and scream bloody murder at the idea of slowing down the nomination of Sir BoofsALot.
In retrospect, expecting anything other than a whitewash regarding the supplemental investigation of barfing Brett was really naive. They weren't going to follow up on the allegations of Debra Ramirez because the allegations were true and the goons didn't want any information to derail the confirmation, so they made sure that the FBI didn't ask for corroboration.
Sexual assault allegations are also no big deal to repugnant politicians and to their base if you have an R by your name.
Perjury, smurgery, so what? It's okay for Kav to lie about his drinking under oath, but it was an impeachable offense for Bill Clinton to lie about a consensual affair.
Bottom line is that we should expect that they are going to behave like this. We should quit letting any expectations of decency from these thugs cause us disappointment or cause us to drop our guard. They are lying, opportunistic thugs and that is going to be their MO at every turn.
We should attack the lies and corruption every day without repeating the right wing talking points.
Some democratic politician should get in front of a camera every morning and give the daily Trump lie briefing for the prior day, saying something like "Trump lied 6 times yesterday, twice about immigration, three times about the economy and once about the Mueller investigation." These statements should be matter of fact in tone, maybe prefaced with a statement that Trump has told X number of verifiable lies so far in his presidency, making it clear that Trump lying 6 times is a day is nothing unusual. It is not acceptable behavior, but at this point it is expected, because Trump is a serial liar.
Further explanation would be fact checks avoiding the RW rhetoric, something like, the Trump described a group of non-white immigrants as criminals, when historically, these people commit fewer crimes than citizens born in the USA. He claimed that immigrants that were seeking asylum had entered the country illegally, when they had not.
IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)JohnnyRingo
(18,640 posts)He's a democrat.
Nitram
(22,853 posts)stopwastingmymoney
(2,042 posts)Abso-freakin-lutely
garybeck
(9,942 posts)if there was a photo of Kav, he would have been toast.
notinkansas
(1,096 posts)because those who voted to confirm him don't really care about anything other than getting this guy on the court at any cost.
C Moon
(12,221 posts)lark
(23,147 posts)Women mean nothing to her compared to her subservience to the male oligarch establishment. She sickens me, the worst of what's wrong with women in ths country. I loathe and disdain her lying ass and can't wait for karma to come her way and hope i get to know about it.
thinkingagain
(906 posts)That I think if he just would run again anywhere hed win. It would be like a super sweet thing for example if hed move to Maine and ran against Collins for example.
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)SpankMe
(2,965 posts)1. Republicans and their defenders and enablers will say that there was an actual photo of Franken engaging in the undignified pose (the fake breast reach), and that Franken admitted to the things he was accused of. But, there's no evidence or admission by Kavanaugh of his "alleged" act. So, as far as they're concerned Kavanaugh is clean and Franken is guilty. I think this is stupid, but it's the way conservatives think. Franken acted far more honorably than Kavanaugh did.
2. As a part of the new "we're-gonna-start-acting-like-assholes-and-winning" strategy that we (Democrats) should be engaging in, Franken should immediately say it was a mistake to resign and run for senate again. We need him back in the senate.