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Sun Sep 23, 2018, 10:53 AM

New rule would deny green cards to immigrants who use food stamps or public housing

WASHINGTON — The Trump administration announced a proposed rule Saturday that would make it harder for immigrants already in the U.S. legally, as well as those seeking to enter, to obtain visas or green cards if they have ever been dependent on certain public benefits, like food stamps or public housing.

The proposal, which can become a rule after a public comment period, rewrites a 1999 rule that limited green cards from immigrants who were dependent on cash benefits, but did not take into consideration healthcare or other non-monetary benefits.

"This proposed rule will implement a law passed by Congress intended to promote immigrant self-sufficiency and protect finite resources by ensuring that they are not likely to become burdens on American taxpayers," said Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/new-rule-would-deny-green-cards-to-immigrants-who-used-food-stamps-public-housing/ar-AAAuGCV?li=BBnb7Kz

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Part of me wonders if this is being exceptionally cruel, and the other part of me wonders how many undocumented people take advantage of public services at all because they don't want to have their names on any kind of government documentation for fear of being deported.

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Reply New rule would deny green cards to immigrants who use food stamps or public housing (Original post)
Ohiogal Sep 2018 OP
Iliyah Sep 2018 #1
WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2018 #2
Xipe Totec Sep 2018 #3
Dirty Socialist Sep 2018 #5
llmart Sep 2018 #4
Ohiogal Sep 2018 #9
llmart Sep 2018 #12
ebbie15644 Sep 2018 #6
dalton99a Sep 2018 #10
ebbie15644 Sep 2018 #11
dalton99a Sep 2018 #13
sakabatou Sep 2018 #7
dameatball Sep 2018 #8
choie Sep 2018 #14
TEB Sep 2018 #15

Response to Ohiogal (Original post)

Sun Sep 23, 2018, 10:56 AM

1. Will this new rule apply to Europeans?

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Response to Ohiogal (Original post)

Sun Sep 23, 2018, 10:58 AM

2. This is exceptionally cruel.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #2)

Sun Sep 23, 2018, 11:01 AM

3. Especially since you need a green card to work legally.

So, if you don't want them to be on the dole, give them a chance to work.

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Response to Xipe Totec (Reply #3)

Sun Sep 23, 2018, 11:12 AM

5. Trump doesn't do logic

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Response to Ohiogal (Original post)

Sun Sep 23, 2018, 11:07 AM

4. "protect finite resources"

Really? If our resources are so "finite" then why do taxpayers have to pay for the grifting Trumps escapades? Or almost all of his administrations illegal/unethical uses of taxpayer monies?

Nielsen is probably feeding at the trough too. F*** her.

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Response to llmart (Reply #4)

Sun Sep 23, 2018, 11:18 AM

9. Resources are "finite"

unless you need $ to house minor undocumented children in concentration camps. Then, of course you can rob Head Start and other government programs that you don't like to pay for it. They say that it costs $750 a day per child, which sounds ridiculous. And some owners and operators of these shelters are making huge profits off of this. Totally ridiculous and so short sighted and cruel.

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Response to Ohiogal (Reply #9)

Sun Sep 23, 2018, 11:57 AM

12. Yes, that too.

We can all think of thousands of other wastes of money by this maladministration. It sickens me.

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Response to Ohiogal (Original post)

Sun Sep 23, 2018, 11:14 AM

6. will this be legal?

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Response to ebbie15644 (Reply #6)

Sun Sep 23, 2018, 11:20 AM

10. Administrative guidelines don't need to be approved by Congress

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #10)

Sun Sep 23, 2018, 11:51 AM

11. will it go to court?

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Response to ebbie15644 (Reply #11)

Sun Sep 23, 2018, 12:09 PM

13. Doubtful

They're exempting benefits received by children and dependents. They're also exempting home heating aid, earned-income tax credit, WIC, Head Start

No change for immigrants currently exempted by law from the "public charge" test: Refugees; asylees; survivors of trafficking, domestic violence, or other serious crimes (T or U visa applicants/holders); VAWA self-petitioners; special immigrant juveniles; certain people paroled into the U.S.; and green card–holders applying for U.S. citizenship.

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Response to Ohiogal (Original post)

Sun Sep 23, 2018, 11:15 AM

7. And here I got told on another site that the guidelines are old

And that I'm ignorant for referring to the date signed.

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Response to Ohiogal (Original post)

Sun Sep 23, 2018, 11:17 AM

8. Screwing the little people while he prepares a new tax cut for the rich.

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Response to Ohiogal (Original post)

Sun Sep 23, 2018, 12:22 PM

14. undocumented immigrants aren't eligible

for benefits - for example, in NY state you have to be a Legal Permanent Resident for 5 years to be eligible for SNAP, unless you are a refugee or fall into a few other categories.

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Response to Ohiogal (Original post)

Sun Sep 23, 2018, 05:36 PM

15. Assholes

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