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Sat Sep 22, 2018, 07:39 PM

Bloomberg: Brett Kavanaugh Is Cursed Either Way

This is an exceptionally strong piece. I hope it presages the future.
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-09-21/brett-kavanaugh-is-cursed-either-way

If he makes it to the Supreme Court without being cleared, his ordeal won't be over.


One way or another, Brett Kavanaugh will have to pay.

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He will not necessarily pay explicitly for whatever it was he did or didn’t do on that contested night long ago. Although if Christine Blasey Ford appears to testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee, and if she acquits herself credibly, then Kavanaugh is unlikely ever to sit on the Supreme Court – no matter what Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell says.

Kavanaugh can wait to see if Ford’s allegations fall apart under questioning. It’s possible she’ll prove a jumble of contradictions. But from what we know so far, it’s hard to imagine she would. Ford doesn’t have to be sure of the color of paint on the wall 35 years ago. She only needs to be sure of the details of the attack as she has already described it.

Conservatives viewing her actions as a product of Democratic skulduggery fool themselves. Her allegations were problematic for Democratic Senator Dianne Feinstein, who first received them in confidence. If Democrats had plotted to weaponize the allegations for best effect, this late-inning muddle would not have resulted.

If McConnell is correct and Republicans manage to push Kavanaugh through to the high court, no matter what, Kavanaugh won’t be out of the woods.

This is not 1991, when Anita Hill accused soon-to-be Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas of sexual harassment. And Kavanaugh, the beneficiary of virtually every privilege that status and education can afford, is not Thomas.

Democrats in 1991 were already the party of feminists. But many of the Democratic men in Congress – Barbara Mikulski was the lone Democratic woman in the Senate – were just as doltish toward a female accuser as Republican senators are today.

That’s no longer the case. Democrats have four women on the Judiciary Committee, and the men are so different from the cast of 1991 that Senator Chris Coons of Delaware has publicly mused that maybe he should cede his committee time to his two female colleagues who are former prosecutors and superior interviewers.

More important, the Republican Party of 1991 is not the party of 2018. The party leader then was George H.W. Bush, a war hero with pronounced social graces. The current leader is a habitual liar and crude demagogue who has been accused of sexual predation by more than a dozen women while continuing to behave as cad-in-chief.

The GOP of 2018 views the Supreme Court differently as well. Republicans were not facing electoral attrition in those days, desperately trying to sabotage the future. Republicans had held the presidency for three terms and were on the verge of a historic victory in the House over a corrupt and complacent Democratic majority.

Now, Republicans are investing in a partisan court to deliver partisan outcomes to advance partisan goals that are insulated from democratic accountability, such as elections and popular opinion, which Republicans increasingly fear.

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Reply Bloomberg: Brett Kavanaugh Is Cursed Either Way (Original post)
erronis Sep 2018 OP
Cha Sep 2018 #1
malaise Sep 2018 #2
Scurrilous Sep 2018 #3
spooky3 Sep 2018 #4
Lonestarblue Sep 2018 #6
smirkymonkey Sep 2018 #17
dalton99a Sep 2018 #21
FakeNoose Sep 2018 #5
LiberalFighter Sep 2018 #8
quakerboy Sep 2018 #7
B Stieg Sep 2018 #9
JHB Sep 2018 #10
catbyte Sep 2018 #16
Mr.Bill Sep 2018 #11
Kajun Gal Sep 2018 #12
Hekate Sep 2018 #22
catbyte Sep 2018 #13
DallasNE Sep 2018 #14
cstanleytech Sep 2018 #15
Frequency Kenneth Sep 2018 #18
Grasswire2 Sep 2018 #24
torius Sep 2018 #19
bucolic_frolic Sep 2018 #20
womanofthehills Sep 2018 #23
Ilsa Sep 2018 #25

Response to erronis (Original post)

Sat Sep 22, 2018, 07:52 PM

1. That's what a lot of us are thinking! Good

to see this. Thank you, erronis

Pervert-in-Russian ASSet.. fixed it.

Good Luck to Dr Christine Ford.. I believe this is true and it should bring Kavanaugh down, and would if there weren't a bunch of sociopathic perverts for putin trying to prop him up as if their lives depended on it.

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Sat Sep 22, 2018, 07:56 PM

2. This

More important, the Republican Party of 1991 is not the party of 2018. The party leader then was George H.W. Bush, a war hero with pronounced social graces. The current leader is a habitual liar and crude demagogue who has been accused of sexual predation by more than a dozen women while continuing to behave as cad-in-chief.

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Sat Sep 22, 2018, 08:15 PM

3. K&R

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Sat Sep 22, 2018, 08:20 PM

4. While Dr. Ford is in town, I hope so badly that she

Will ask the Montgomery County police to launch an investigation, then plan for an in-depth interview with Rachel Maddow or Lawrence or Ari.

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Response to spooky3 (Reply #4)

Sat Sep 22, 2018, 08:30 PM

6. Yes, yes, yes!

Something needs to wipe that smug expression off Kavanaugh’s face.

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Response to Lonestarblue (Reply #6)

Sat Sep 22, 2018, 09:28 PM

17. Preferably with a baseball bat.



Sorry, the last few years have made me feel kind of violent.

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #17)

Sat Sep 22, 2018, 09:52 PM

21. +1

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Sat Sep 22, 2018, 08:24 PM

5. Agreed

Not only will Brett Kavanaugh go down, but I believe this will bring down the Republican Party. Well, it's the beginning of the end, but they are going down. All of Charles Koch's and Robert Mercer's money cannot change the facts - time and demographics are against you. Let alone the morals, values and laws of the American people that are also against you.

If Kavanaugh gets voted in now, he'll be removed later. And it will happen at the soonest possible moment. I'd like to see Gorsuch removed too, but that can be determined later. Kavanaugh will have to go.

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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #5)

Sat Sep 22, 2018, 08:41 PM

8. He absolutely needs to be removed...

along with Clarence Thomas and Gorsuch.

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Sat Sep 22, 2018, 08:39 PM

7. Only if we continue to ostensibly operate under rule of law

Republicans are not playing by the old win some, lose some, try to win more than you lose rules.

They are playing to win it all, and losing the vote on slimy k would be the end of that game.

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Sat Sep 22, 2018, 08:45 PM

9. The ratings for this hearing will be YUGE!

The President* will be pretty jealous.🤑

Just more evidence of his ineptitude coupled with his misogyny! 😉

REGISTER and VOTE!

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Sat Sep 22, 2018, 08:47 PM

10. The comparison with 1991 leaves out his perjury...

It's not just one thing from decades ago. He's been shown to have committed acts that are grounds for impeaching him RIGHT NOW from his current position, much less a higher one.

Clarence Thomas had -- and has -- a level of unconcern with conflicts of interest that should have derailed him even before Anita Hill entered the picture, but conflicts of interest is a much fuzzier subject than clear evidence of lying under oath

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Response to JHB (Reply #10)

Sat Sep 22, 2018, 09:25 PM

16. It should matter--it should've disqualified him from the get-go, but absolutely

nobody is even discussing that aspect of Kavanaugh's utter lack of ethics, much less calling for his rejection. Seriously, why doesn't anybody want to find out how his $200,000 gambling debt was suddenly paid off, or how he managed to pay his $92,000 country club initiation fee, or his kid's $10,000/year private school tuition, or how he could afford his $1,225,000 home on a $200,000/year salary? He didn't marry money, nor is his family particularly wealthy. These things trouble me as much as his sexual assault history.

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Sat Sep 22, 2018, 09:08 PM

11. Whatever the outcome, this will happen in the coming week:

Bret Kavanaugh will change his story at least three times.

Dr. Ford will not.

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Sat Sep 22, 2018, 09:14 PM

12. I know he's screwed with his wife for sure....

 

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Response to Kajun Gal (Reply #12)

Sat Sep 22, 2018, 10:43 PM

22. Catholic -- probably not a divorce. But surely not happy. nt

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Sat Sep 22, 2018, 09:15 PM

13. I so hope I'm wrong, but I believe McConnell--unless Murkowski & Collins can be shamed

into doing the right thing--which I have little faith in. Republicans aren't stupid. They see the writing on the wall, the buzzsaw they're heading towards in November. They know that Kavanaugh could very well be their last, best chance at stacking the court, and they'll unleash every vile, underhanded, dishonest dirty trick they know to make that happen. There are no Republicans in the Senate with any integrity at all.

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Sat Sep 22, 2018, 09:20 PM

14. Dr Ford Has A Crack Legal Team

Her story must be compelling otherwise this top talent would not be on board

Knowing that Ford required medical help over this means that the tactics of Grassley and McConnell are to get inside of her head and cause her to have a breakdown and do poorly with her testimony. I think her team has done a great job of shielding her from this gambit.

Today's Republican Party is ruthless top to bottom so they wouldn't bat an eye because the only thing that matters to them is power.

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Sat Sep 22, 2018, 09:24 PM

15. Not to mention if they do seat him we could see a SCOTUS judge indicted

and sentenced as a sex offender still as from what I am reading there is no statute of limitations in the state where it happened for the crime he is accused of.

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Sat Sep 22, 2018, 09:28 PM

18. Fuck McConnell

 

Grassley and Hatch too. There should be age limits on these geezers!

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Response to Frequency Kenneth (Reply #18)

Sun Sep 23, 2018, 12:55 PM

24. no thanks. ewwwww. nt

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Sat Sep 22, 2018, 09:36 PM

19. As we now know, GHWB's "pronounced social graces" included groping women's buttocks. nt

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Sat Sep 22, 2018, 09:48 PM

20. The pendulum always swings back

but we do need some luck and have a heck of a lot of work cut out for us

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Sat Sep 22, 2018, 11:25 PM

23. and don't forget Avenatti - sounds like some women may have contacted him

Michael Avenatti
‏Verified account @MichaelAvenatti

All indications are that Dr. Ford is not alone. Buckle up - that includes you Mark Judge. #Basta

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Sun Sep 23, 2018, 12:57 PM

25. It would be hysterical if the women on the court

Played practical jokes on him, harassing him.

A package of peel-off tattoos that say "Sitting Rapist", etc.

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