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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 08:25 PM Aug 2018

Glenn Greenwald Thinks Criticizing Rachel Maddow Got Him Banned from MSNBC


by Amy Russo | Aug 30th, 2018, 7:15 pm

There appears to be no love lost between Glenn Greenwald and MSNBC. The investigative reporter has been racking up quite a few appearances on Fox News lately and is claiming he’s been banned from Rachel Maddow‘s show.

He’s also refusing to sit on the sidelines in the meantime.

Tensions reached a breaking point last year, Greenwald told Observer, suggesting he was blacklisted from the network as a consequence of his “harsh criticism of the obsession of MSNBC generally, and Maddow specifically, with the Russia story, as well as their numerous errors and reckless speculation.”

He echoed that same message in a lengthy HuffPost interview published Thursday, saying he’s never been invited by Maddow to discuss the controversy over U.S.-Russia relations, a matter on which he’s a known skeptic, straying from traditional leftist views on the situation.

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Glenn Greenwald Thinks Criticizing Rachel Maddow Got Him Banned from MSNBC (Original Post) DonViejo Aug 2018 OP
Stick with Fox News and RT, Glenn, or better work directly for the Russian Foreign Ministry. Anon-C Aug 2018 #1
Here I thought it was being a Russia tool. GulfCoast66 Aug 2018 #2
and super greasy. TheBlackAdder Aug 2018 #16
No Glenn. You fit in perfectly with fox news and their bullshit propaganda still_one Aug 2018 #3
He was banned because nobody wants to watch him FakeNoose Aug 2018 #4
Cenk whined he was fired from msnbc because of.. wait for it.. Cha Aug 2018 #5
anybody wanna actually read the interview? here it isL shanny Aug 2018 #6
Are you saying he's not a Russian tool? Or are you saying he has been mistreated by Dr. Maddow? Hekate Aug 2018 #8
I'm not saying fuck all about Greenwald. shanny Aug 2018 #18
Kinda hostile. Okay. Hekate Aug 2018 #20
lol shanny Aug 2018 #22
I don't care why leftynyc Aug 2018 #40
He is not a new person on the scene. He is a more intelligent HA Goodman. nt NCTraveler Aug 2018 #59
We won't because we know that GG is a Russian toady. A number of progressives pnwmom Aug 2018 #10
Yes I read that interview, and I don't know why you're facepalming.. JHan Aug 2018 #11
I can think of a few groups that think the Russian angle is overblown RhodeIslandOne Aug 2018 #13
++ JHan Aug 2018 #25
that's the sum total of your takeaway? um, OK shanny Aug 2018 #19
considering how much Greenwald has shifted goalposts on Russiagate JHan Aug 2018 #24
Do you believe Maddow has spent too much time on Russiagate? n/m RhodeIslandOne Aug 2018 #32
Yes, I do. shanny Aug 2018 #43
Russia being one is too much for people who love this country uponit7771 Aug 2018 #44
Lol shanny Aug 2018 #45
Nope... not at all, facts are facts uponit7771 Aug 2018 #61
and judgments are judgments shanny Aug 2018 #62
Except Rachel has talked about Corruption - Russiagate is a massive story about corruption JHan Aug 2018 #53
We will continue to disagree. shanny Aug 2018 #57
Her ratings are high, her viewers like it. JHan Aug 2018 #60
Fuck Greenwald. MrsCoffee Aug 2018 #14
And you waste your time in a community you hold in disdain because? grantcart Aug 2018 #34
Inquiring minds want to know Hekate Aug 2018 #36
We can do better. shanny Aug 2018 #42
Im not going to waste precious minutes of my life reading what that asshat said. TeamPooka Aug 2018 #38
Interesting interview oberliner Aug 2018 #46
Nice of you to provide the link to the HuffPost article but, anyone reading the OP,... DonViejo Aug 2018 #50
If true, another feather in Rachel's cap. If not, more evidence of his wrong headedness. UTUSN Aug 2018 #7
Libertarians aren't leftist. pnwmom Aug 2018 #9
I never liked him much... Or at all actually. NurseJackie Aug 2018 #12
Me neither leftynyc Aug 2018 #41
"It still obviously isn't evidence that Putin ordered it, nor is it proof that the Russian...." MrsCoffee Aug 2018 #15
Why would Rachel expose her ever growing audience to the likes of GG? Tarheel_Dem Aug 2018 #17
simplistic shanny Aug 2018 #21
Him being an asshole had nothing to do with it? Roland99 Aug 2018 #23
First rule of Liberal Politics.. NEVER beat up on our foremost reporter, Rachel Maddow. Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #26
Amen, Crutchez Hekate Aug 2018 #37
Hmmmm... and how much of her "reckless speculation" has panned out Glenn? sfwriter Aug 2018 #27
Fuck Glenn Greenwald ismnotwasm Aug 2018 #28
Being a Putin stooge should get him banned from the USA scheming daemons Aug 2018 #29
I'm on it now rpannier Aug 2018 #30
Is Greenwald actually Criss Angel? dchill Aug 2018 #31
@#$% Glenn Greenwald. n/t Scurrilous Aug 2018 #33
So glad to see you saying this! oberliner Aug 2018 #47
Just when I thought I could not have a higher opinion of Dr. Maddow. grantcart Aug 2018 #35
Glenn who? stopbush Aug 2018 #39
It's amazing what whiners the right wingers are. They wallow in victimhood. Vinca Aug 2018 #48
Rachel deals in facts, not conspiracy theories, which rules Greenwart out of her programme. OnDoutside Aug 2018 #49
Fox News suits Greenwald better. MineralMan Aug 2018 #51
Glenn Greenwald is a Trump water boy! UCmeNdc Aug 2018 #54
Any Glenn defenders still around, have at it... Blue_Tires Aug 2018 #52
I get the impression that GG want's to invite himself to the party mitch96 Aug 2018 #55
Naw, Glenn Greenwald you and FOX News go together..... UCmeNdc Aug 2018 #56
He and Cenk are both used car salesmen. NCTraveler Aug 2018 #58

Anon-C

(3,430 posts)
1. Stick with Fox News and RT, Glenn, or better work directly for the Russian Foreign Ministry.
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 08:32 PM
Aug 2018

Oh wait!

FakeNoose

(32,637 posts)
4. He was banned because nobody wants to watch him
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 08:35 PM
Aug 2018

All the liberal TV sets in America will "click" to another channel if he ever shows up there again.

Isn't that enough of a reason?

Cha

(297,196 posts)
5. Cenk whined he was fired from msnbc because of.. wait for it..
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 08:45 PM
Aug 2018

President Obama! Which was delusional.

Poor putin Tool, greenwald. Wah

Hekate

(90,674 posts)
8. Are you saying he's not a Russian tool? Or are you saying he has been mistreated by Dr. Maddow?
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 10:01 PM
Aug 2018
 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
18. I'm not saying fuck all about Greenwald.
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 10:41 PM
Aug 2018

I'm saying DUers (or anybody, on any issue, really) should get all the facts before making judgments or assumptions or asking strawman questions.

Duh. backatcha

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
40. I don't care why
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 05:05 AM
Aug 2018

MSNBC had the sense to keep him off their network. He's nothing but Russian compromised crap so I don't care what he has to say. He obviously isn't being missed by anyone watching MSNBC so looks to me like a mutual disdain society. Anyone who wants to see him knows where to find him - on trump state tv.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
10. We won't because we know that GG is a Russian toady. A number of progressives
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 10:09 PM
Aug 2018

got fooled by him a few years ago, but most have figured him out in the meantime.

By the way, the article is wrong to refer to him as a leftist. He isn't a leftist, he's a libertarian. Two very different things. Libertarians are against Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, etc. They're not progressive. Their economic views are far right wing.

JHan

(10,173 posts)
11. Yes I read that interview, and I don't know why you're facepalming..
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 10:27 PM
Aug 2018

Unless you happen to agree with him that Maddow has spent too much time covering Russia.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
13. I can think of a few groups that think the Russian angle is overblown
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 10:30 PM
Aug 2018

Hint: They are not our allies.

JHan

(10,173 posts)
24. considering how much Greenwald has shifted goalposts on Russiagate
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 12:18 AM
Aug 2018

Why don't you share with us your take away, and what you think is wrong in the OP.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
43. Yes, I do.
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 05:33 AM
Aug 2018

I think there are a LOT of reasons Rump "won" and Russia was only one of them. I also think that there are a LOT of issues that could be and should be addressed where Ds have a strong upper hand, like corruption. Like healthcare. Like increasing monopolization and how that affects wages. Like voter suppression and the new Jim Crow. Like climate change and care for the environment and how that affects all of us. Rachel is extremely smart and talented at connecting the dots and there are a lot of dots out there.

JHan

(10,173 posts)
53. Except Rachel has talked about Corruption - Russiagate is a massive story about corruption
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 09:51 AM
Aug 2018

She's also talked about Scott Pruitt and other corruption under this administration.

I agree with you that there hasn't been enough talk about Voter Suppression ( neither Gerrymandering) but Donald Trump being part of a nexus of international oligarchs who launder money and do Putin's bidding - like undermining Western Democracies - would interest Glenn if he didn't have a dog in the fight. This administration's capitulation to Putin's aims through its disregard for allies and trade partners are things to talk about - both have real, dire consequences.

And when has discussion of beneficial policies been a driving force of Cable News Ratings? 2016 was a year where policy talk was steadfastly ignored.

What Russiagate has done is expose Greenwald for the massive hypocrite he's always been. On top of his shifting goalposts about Russiagate, his defense of Don Jr over emails which showed an enthusiasm on the part of the Trump campaign to get "dirt" on Clinton was hilarious since he happily purveyed and helped weaponize uncurated leaked emails during the election.

He's hot under the collar about Democrats not focusing on real issues when every Democrat running in midterms has talked about "real issues". Throughout 2016 he himself didn't much care about issues with his sensationalist terrible takes. He tried to justify his obsession with Hillary by claiming it was his journalistic duty to hold the powerful accountable, but now holding Trump accountable is some liberal deep state attempt to undo a Trump Presidency.

Greenwald's quandary is he can't sell himself as some freedom fighter while also being an Oligarch's useful idiot. And that's on him.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
57. We will continue to disagree.
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 10:01 AM
Aug 2018

Have a good day.

But just as an aside: I don't judge quality or importance of news by the driving force of cable news ratings. But if I did, I'd look at what the people viewed as most important and wanted to discuss.

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-ab&q=most+important+issues+facing+america+today&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi95Z_3uJfdAhVL0KwKHSNKCGsQ1QIIoQEoBg&biw=1488&bih=809

JHan

(10,173 posts)
60. Her ratings are high, her viewers like it.
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 10:10 AM
Aug 2018

It's a relevant topic, it's serious - if people think it's trivial they should provide solid reasons why ( They don't)

The criticism that she talks too much about Russia has been there since post-election. These critics have had to eat their words, except Glenn who won't ever because he's shameless.

TeamPooka

(24,223 posts)
38. Im not going to waste precious minutes of my life reading what that asshat said.
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 04:17 AM
Aug 2018

I've heard enough from him over the years.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
46. Interesting interview
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 07:04 AM
Aug 2018

He seems to find Clinton and Obama to be worse than Trump with respect to the issues he is interested in. Or at least, basically the same, in his view.

It's also a good interview for anyone who wants confirmation that Glenn is a pompous ass.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
50. Nice of you to provide the link to the HuffPost article but, anyone reading the OP,...
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 08:04 AM
Aug 2018

particularly the first sentence of the fourth paragraph, would see the link and could proceed to that site to read the interview. Likewise, hit the link in the first sentence of the third paragraph, go to the Observer, and read more about how Greenwald feels about his alleged banning. Of course, in your case, I'm probably preaching to the choir, you've undoubtedly read the Observer article.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
9. Libertarians aren't leftist.
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 10:07 PM
Aug 2018

Their economic views are as right wing as the tea party's -- maybe more so.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
41. Me neither
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 05:14 AM
Aug 2018

Don't care why he's not on msnbc and no interest in his take on any subject. People who do care know where to find him pontificating.

MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
15. "It still obviously isn't evidence that Putin ordered it, nor is it proof that the Russian...."
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 10:35 PM
Aug 2018

What a Russian tool.

Womp womp mother fucker, womp womp.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
26. First rule of Liberal Politics.. NEVER beat up on our foremost reporter, Rachel Maddow.
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 12:26 AM
Aug 2018

She has single handedly kept the pieces of the puzzle together for nigh on two years. Beating up on Rachel is another form of Franken'ing a Democrat. It is unforgivable. There is no one who's done more in main stream media to make sure we don't lose sight of what's really going on. All done in a clean, cogent, understandable manner. Never kick Rachel...ever. Shes our Cronkite.

mitch96

(13,895 posts)
55. I get the impression that GG want's to invite himself to the party
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 09:56 AM
Aug 2018

that nobody wants him to attend... then wines about it...
m

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
56. Naw, Glenn Greenwald you and FOX News go together.....
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 09:58 AM
Aug 2018

If Glenn Greenwald really was a progressive democratic supporter he would go onto FOX News and say he was for Obama Care, Gay Rights, Women have a right to equal pay, etc. Instead he attacks Democratic politicians. No Glenn Greenwald you belong on FOX News where you can preach to the Donald Trump faithful how bad the Democratic Party is.

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