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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 08:46 AM Aug 2018

Michael Cohen's lawyer has done real damage to the case against Trump

By Aaron Blake
August 27 at 2:38 PM

One of the most bizarre aspects of the investigations engulfing the Trump administration is the lawyers involved. Here we have a presidency on the line, and this is Trump’s team? The top legal spokesmen for each side are … Rudolph W. Giuliani and Lanny Davis!?

Up until this point, though, Giuliani was the Great Contradictor and Davis was merely a colorful character. Now that has changed in a big way.

In a new interview with The Washington Post’s Tom Hamburger and Rosalind S. Helderman, Davis is backing off two massive claims he made in recent weeks, including that former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen has told people he witnessed President Trump being informed of Donald Trump Jr.'s 2016 Trump Tower meeting with a Russian lawyer before it happened.

“I should have been more clear — including with you — that I could not independently confirm what happened,” Davis said, adding: “I regret my error.”

Davis also backed off his claim that Cohen has information suggesting that Trump knew in advance about Russian hacking of Democrats’ emails in 2016.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/08/27/michael-cohens-lawyer-has-done-real-damage-case-against-trump

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Michael Cohen's lawyer has done real damage to the case against Trump (Original Post) DonViejo Aug 2018 OP
I'm sure that Mueller already has information that Trump knew about NewJeffCT Aug 2018 #1
I sure hope so. riversedge Aug 2018 #2
Lanny Davis has not done real damage to anything. madaboutharry Aug 2018 #3
"just another lawyer shooting off his mouth" jberryhill Aug 2018 #5
Exactly Sanity Claws Aug 2018 #7
+1 CentralMass Aug 2018 #8
Mueller vets his witnesses C_U_L8R Aug 2018 #4
Lanny Davis has committed errors that a seasoned attorney should never commit. Trust Buster Aug 2018 #6
Lanny Davis knows what he is doing. Iliyah Aug 2018 #11
Disagree. He should be instructing his client to talk to Mueller. Trust Buster Aug 2018 #13
Oh, please. GoCubsGo Aug 2018 #9
Bingo stopbush Aug 2018 #15
Cohen hired Davis to dig at Trump. GoCubsGo Aug 2018 #16
Haha, do they think Mueller is doing things based on what Lanny Davis says ? JI7 Aug 2018 #10
I take it that Cohen told Lanny that trump knew Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2018 #12
IMHO, Cohen actually did take a bullet for Trump, and his "offers to cooperate" are bait. moriah Aug 2018 #14

NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
1. I'm sure that Mueller already has information that Trump knew about
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 08:49 AM
Aug 2018

the meeting at Trump Tower. I doubt anything important goes on there without Donny Dollhands knowing about it.

madaboutharry

(40,219 posts)
3. Lanny Davis has not done real damage to anything.
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 08:53 AM
Aug 2018

This story has barely been reported on and what Lanny Davis says doesn't matter. He is seen as just another lawyer shooting off his mouth.

The only thing that matters is what Robert Mueller has to say.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
5. "just another lawyer shooting off his mouth"
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 08:58 AM
Aug 2018

You nailed it.

The extent to which people confuse "Trump, the television show" with anything that actually matters, is downright disturbing at times. People think that the TV show means something when, in reality, it doesn't mean shit.

Real lawyers don't spend their time blabbering away on television.

Sanity Claws

(21,852 posts)
7. Exactly
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 09:00 AM
Aug 2018

He is just another talker who lets his mouth get ahead of his brain.
He does not represent the prosecution, only a former employee of Trump who now hates Trump with a passion.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
6. Lanny Davis has committed errors that a seasoned attorney should never commit.
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 08:59 AM
Aug 2018

You NEVER over promise. Add to that the fact that he was the Clinton’s lawyer for years and he has done a real disservice to the cause IMO.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
13. Disagree. He should be instructing his client to talk to Mueller.
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 09:38 AM
Aug 2018

Making outrageous claims to the media just to have to walk them back is not evidence that Davis knows what he is doing IMO.

GoCubsGo

(32,088 posts)
9. Oh, please.
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 09:01 AM
Aug 2018

Does the schmuck who wrote this actually believe that the "case against Trump" will be litigated based on what's being said on TV shows? The stupid. It burns.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
15. Bingo
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 10:22 AM
Aug 2018

Mountains of evidence covering decades of crime...and a TV lawyer stretching the truth in an attempt to get a deal for his client somehow hurts the case built by the mountains of evidence?

Geez, if it’s that easy, why don’t all defense attorneys simply take the same tack in any case they’re defending? Sounds like an easy paycheck.

GoCubsGo

(32,088 posts)
16. Cohen hired Davis to dig at Trump.
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 10:31 AM
Aug 2018

Lanny Davis is one of Hillary Clinton's best friends. Cohen knows this will drive Trump nuts. I'm guessing he also has other lawyers, and Davis is merely his "TV lawyer", much as Guiliani is Trump's TV lawyer. I don't think Davis will be doing the bulk of the defending, when push comes to shove. His other lawyers will.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
12. I take it that Cohen told Lanny that trump knew
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 09:35 AM
Aug 2018

About Russian meeting...but when it came down to it, of course it's true, but Cohen has no physical proof. Lanny was ahead of his skiis. Mueller may not either but he's probably got statements from 10 people who say he did.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
14. IMHO, Cohen actually did take a bullet for Trump, and his "offers to cooperate" are bait.
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 09:38 AM
Aug 2018

By pleading to a campaign finance violation and stating Trump ordered it to influence the election, he avoids the implications about bribery -- he negotiated a NDA with Daniels that included provisions for notification if subpoenaed was only signed after multiple Trump accusers had retained attorneys, and at all times Trump repaid the "loan" the Summer Zervos lawsuit was happening.

Corruptly paying someone to refuse to cooperate with attorneys who might want to hear what they have to say, to make it harder for attorneys to identify them as potential witnesses that disprove Trump's assertion he didn't "conduct his life" in that time by asking women to his hotel room, even if the agreement says they can answer a a subpoena (but only if they give notice to Trump so he could attempt to quash it) -- pretty much by-definition bribery.

A straightforward NDA in both their real names wouldn't be "corruptly" paying, but going through an elaborate corporate shell game is. Even Pecker went soft on selling enforcement rights on the McDougal NDA to Trump once he had accusers and the potential existed Trump would be sued. They wanted evidence destroyed that they'd even contemplated it. I think they were trying to avoid being linked into something bigger than campaign finance. And with bribery being a specifically named impeachable offense...

Essentially, I'm sure the NDAs were sought both for election wins and for keeping those women out of court. Trump should be (and if he's just playing dumb, is) grateful Cohen went with saying in his plea the purpose was the election, not the lawsuits.

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