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Link to tweet
Bottom line: He can't fire his way out of this.
scheming daemons
(25,487 posts)Cha
(297,196 posts)magicarpet
(14,145 posts).... he gets back from his trip to the trDump Scotland World Class Golf Course.
dalton99a
(81,475 posts)but what Cohen said under oath is not going away
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)He is racking up more charges everytime he fires/attacks witnesses or prosecutors.
wishstar
(5,269 posts)Weeks ago, Giuliani admitted this publicly, contradicting Trump's lies but also Lanny Davis said something about Trump's lawyers telling this to the Special Counsel that Trump had directed Cohen in the payoffs.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)HAB911
(8,890 posts)Glorfindel
(9,729 posts)uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... that RICO?
Thx in advance
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)This is "Michael said, and the U.S. Attorney is willing to go in front of a federal judge on the strength of what he said, Donald said."
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Very very good...I love that Mueller gave it to SDNY so it cant be fired away.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,490 posts)Benjamin Wittes' Twitter page....
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Benjamin Wittes @benjaminwittes
Senior Fellow at Brookings.
Editor in Chief: Lawfare (@lawfareblog).
Washington DC
benjaminwittes.com
Link: https://twitter.com/benjaminwittes
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Direct link to Mr. Wittes' article in The Atlantic.....
The Most Damaging Thing Thats Happened to Trump
It wasnt what Michael Cohen alleged in court, nor the conviction of his campaign chair.
Benjamin Wittes
Link: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/08/the-presidents-situation-gets-worse/568135/
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ffr
(22,669 posts)Trump's organization made the payments, so they're now on the hook too.
njhoneybadger
(3,910 posts)Just saying.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)nolabear
(41,960 posts)PNW-Dem
(244 posts)What I dont get is why in the world did Trump use campaign funds to pay off those two women? Is he really that cheap? Why didnt he use his own money or Trump Organization money? If he had, it probably wouldnt have been a crime. Why didnt Cohan advise him to act differently?
Either way, yesterday was an epic, historic day of Watergate proportions! Its amazing to watch the shrewd Mueller strategy
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)Look no further than his "charity" and how it pays expenses that he could easily afford. But paying your own way in life is for "suckers" to this man.
He's gotten away with this kind of grifting for years as a private businessman, using threats and lawsuits as his weapons against anyone who challenged him.
Then, either for reasons of ego, greed, or Russian kompromat (or some combination), he decided to "up his game" to the political arena.
And here we are, watching him circle the drain like a human turd.
proglib217
(88 posts)Best gif I've ever seen
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,834 posts)mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)I've not seen that being asserted other than by people speculating ...
It would be a crime in this case I believe because the sums involved and not reporting them as campaign contributions (from Trump Org to Trump Campaign). Even though it's 'your money you're contributing to yourself', it still has to be declared over a certain amount that's WAY less than what he spent on the two ladies.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)That's just as illegal, because he didn't declare it.
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)It doesn't matter where the money came from. It didn't come out of campaign coffers. But it was a campaign expense because it was directly related to campaign actions by people within the campaign (Cohen was finance chair of the RNC; his actions were directly campaign finance).
hedda_foil
(16,373 posts)To influence the vote. That's a campaign finance violation. He paid hush money to influence the election. Actually Cohen paid with his own borrowed funds and Trumpinc paid him back plus gobs more later.
Hekate
(90,674 posts)C Moon
(12,213 posts)Doitnow
(1,103 posts)Javaman
(62,521 posts)yonder
(9,664 posts)"...that the United States Department of Justice allowed him to enter a guilty plea..."
It sounds like the Justice Dept. can prove something about the basis of that plea.
Slowly reeling him in. Yuge. Yikes.
mucifer
(23,542 posts)I assume they do or they would know this could be a big mess.
mnhtnbb
(31,384 posts)court appearance if they were in possession of documents, tapes, emails,etc to support the guilty plea and the prosecutor answered affirmatively.
mucifer
(23,542 posts)It applies to the direction of activity in violation of campaign finance laws.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)N_E_1 for Tennis
(9,721 posts)White House arrest.
I know there is no such animal but something of the kind should be initiated. Just a way to throttle him so he cant do more damage. Everyone is worried about him bombing something if he was layered in protocol he might find it impossible. Effectively castrating him.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Judi Lynn
(160,527 posts)malthaussen
(17,193 posts)niyad
(113,284 posts)Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)lambchopp59
(2,809 posts)And hope most of the other sycophants blow a few important blood vessels.
lpbk2713
(42,757 posts)I hope justice still exists and that Trump & Co will get what is coming to them.