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If you read one paragraph about yesterday's events, read this one (Original Post) scheming daemons Aug 2018 OP
shamelessly kicking my own thread. n/t scheming daemons Aug 2018 #1
No shame, dude.. Mahalo! Cha Aug 2018 #31
Well,.. Rudy is sure to give SDNY a tongue lashing once... magicarpet Aug 2018 #2
Trump can fire the U.S. attorney dalton99a Aug 2018 #3
Plus the other attorneys in that office will keep on working. dixiegrrrrl Aug 2018 #4
Cohen's lawyer Lanny Davis said this morning that Trump's own attorneys admitted he directed Cohen wishstar Aug 2018 #5
Trump admitted on Fux that he made the payment from his personal funds. lagomorph777 Aug 2018 #38
K&R HAB911 Aug 2018 #6
K&R n/t Glorfindel Aug 2018 #7
Someone just mentioned this on MSNBC, it's Red Don directed Cohen in the commission of a crime. Is.. uponit7771 Aug 2018 #8
This goes beyond "Michael said, Donald said" gratuitous Aug 2018 #9
Very good indeed! BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2018 #10
K&R. Excellent thoughts from the "BOOM" man himself. KY_EnviroGuy Aug 2018 #11
Rachel Maddow also unearthed some goodies from Cohen's testimony. ffr Aug 2018 #12
Perhaps, but he can try to bomb his way out with a war against Iran njhoneybadger Aug 2018 #13
KNR Lucinda Aug 2018 #14
Lawrence drove this point home last nite incessantly. nt Ferrets are Cool Aug 2018 #15
Kickety nolabear Aug 2018 #16
Why did he pay with campaign funds? Stupid? Cheap? Why? PNW-Dem Aug 2018 #17
Greed and entitlement DEFINE trump flibbitygiblets Aug 2018 #20
Love the gif! proglib217 Aug 2018 #34
Limited options? He may have a helluva lot less money than he's claimed over the years. Gidney N Cloyd Aug 2018 #27
Where do you see that Trump paid Cohen with campaign funds? mr_lebowski Aug 2018 #28
No, equally stupid, Trump admits he paid from his own funds. lagomorph777 Aug 2018 #39
It was an undisclosed campaign related expense. joshcryer Aug 2018 #40
He didn't pay with campaign funds. He paid from the business funds ten days before the election. hedda_foil Aug 2018 #42
The Mad King can't fire his way out of this Hekate Aug 2018 #18
I have a feeling Trump will have an inperson meeting with Putin in the very near future. C Moon Aug 2018 #19
Maybe he'll ask Putin for asylum in Russia. Doitnow Aug 2018 #33
K & R! nt Javaman Aug 2018 #21
K&R and thanks! yonder Aug 2018 #22
Did anyone hear if they have tapes and/or emails to confirm what Cohen said? mucifer Aug 2018 #23
Yes. The prosecutor was asked during Cohen's mnhtnbb Aug 2018 #24
I heard that. So that includes the trump part? mucifer Aug 2018 #25
Yes. mnhtnbb Aug 2018 #26
and then you get Pence Angry Dragon Aug 2018 #29
Trump should be put under... N_E_1 for Tennis Aug 2018 #30
Oh, yeah. Was that as good for you as it was for me? Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #32
K & R. Thank you. n/t Judi Lynn Aug 2018 #35
An important distinction, thanks. n/t malthaussen Aug 2018 #36
belated k and r niyad Aug 2018 #37
K&R Scurrilous Aug 2018 #41
Methinks maybe we ought to crowdfund Sean Hannity a lifetime supply of Depends. lambchopp59 Aug 2018 #43
Thanks for posting this. lpbk2713 Aug 2018 #44

magicarpet

(14,145 posts)
2. Well,.. Rudy is sure to give SDNY a tongue lashing once...
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 12:35 PM
Aug 2018

.... he gets back from his trip to the trDump Scotland World Class Golf Course.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
4. Plus the other attorneys in that office will keep on working.
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 12:56 PM
Aug 2018

He is racking up more charges everytime he fires/attacks witnesses or prosecutors.

wishstar

(5,269 posts)
5. Cohen's lawyer Lanny Davis said this morning that Trump's own attorneys admitted he directed Cohen
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 01:02 PM
Aug 2018

Weeks ago, Giuliani admitted this publicly, contradicting Trump's lies but also Lanny Davis said something about Trump's lawyers telling this to the Special Counsel that Trump had directed Cohen in the payoffs.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
8. Someone just mentioned this on MSNBC, it's Red Don directed Cohen in the commission of a crime. Is..
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 01:16 PM
Aug 2018

... that RICO?

Thx in advance

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
9. This goes beyond "Michael said, Donald said"
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 01:17 PM
Aug 2018

This is "Michael said, and the U.S. Attorney is willing to go in front of a federal judge on the strength of what he said, Donald said."

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,490 posts)
11. K&R. Excellent thoughts from the "BOOM" man himself.
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 01:32 PM
Aug 2018

Benjamin Wittes' Twitter page....

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Benjamin Wittes @benjaminwittes
Senior Fellow at Brookings.
Editor in Chief: Lawfare (@lawfareblog).
Washington DC
benjaminwittes.com


Link: https://twitter.com/benjaminwittes

----
Direct link to Mr. Wittes' article in The Atlantic.....

The Most Damaging Thing That’s Happened to Trump
It wasn’t what Michael Cohen alleged in court, nor the conviction of his campaign chair.
Benjamin Wittes

Link: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/08/the-presidents-situation-gets-worse/568135/

.............

ffr

(22,669 posts)
12. Rachel Maddow also unearthed some goodies from Cohen's testimony.
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 01:34 PM
Aug 2018

Trump's organization made the payments, so they're now on the hook too.

PNW-Dem

(244 posts)
17. Why did he pay with campaign funds? Stupid? Cheap? Why?
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 02:29 PM
Aug 2018

What I don’t get is why in the world did Trump use campaign funds to pay off those two women? Is he really that cheap? Why didn’t he use his own money or Trump Organization money? If he had, it probably wouldn’t have been a crime. Why didn’t Cohan advise him to act differently?

Either way, yesterday was an epic, historic day of Watergate proportions! It’s amazing to watch the shrewd Mueller strategy…

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
20. Greed and entitlement DEFINE trump
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 03:17 PM
Aug 2018

Look no further than his "charity" and how it pays expenses that he could easily afford. But paying your own way in life is for "suckers" to this man.

He's gotten away with this kind of grifting for years as a private businessman, using threats and lawsuits as his weapons against anyone who challenged him.

Then, either for reasons of ego, greed, or Russian kompromat (or some combination), he decided to "up his game" to the political arena.

And here we are, watching him circle the drain like a human turd.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
28. Where do you see that Trump paid Cohen with campaign funds?
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 06:03 PM
Aug 2018

I've not seen that being asserted other than by people speculating ...

It would be a crime in this case I believe because the sums involved and not reporting them as campaign contributions (from Trump Org to Trump Campaign). Even though it's 'your money you're contributing to yourself', it still has to be declared over a certain amount that's WAY less than what he spent on the two ladies.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
39. No, equally stupid, Trump admits he paid from his own funds.
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 01:59 PM
Aug 2018

That's just as illegal, because he didn't declare it.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
40. It was an undisclosed campaign related expense.
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 02:00 PM
Aug 2018

It doesn't matter where the money came from. It didn't come out of campaign coffers. But it was a campaign expense because it was directly related to campaign actions by people within the campaign (Cohen was finance chair of the RNC; his actions were directly campaign finance).

hedda_foil

(16,373 posts)
42. He didn't pay with campaign funds. He paid from the business funds ten days before the election.
Sat Aug 25, 2018, 08:38 AM
Aug 2018

To influence the vote. That's a campaign finance violation. He paid hush money to influence the election. Actually Cohen paid with his own borrowed funds and Trumpinc paid him back plus gobs more later.

yonder

(9,664 posts)
22. K&R and thanks!
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 04:20 PM
Aug 2018

"...that the United States Department of Justice allowed him to enter a guilty plea..."

It sounds like the Justice Dept. can prove something about the basis of that plea.

Slowly reeling him in. Yuge. Yikes.

mucifer

(23,542 posts)
23. Did anyone hear if they have tapes and/or emails to confirm what Cohen said?
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 04:55 PM
Aug 2018

I assume they do or they would know this could be a big mess.

mnhtnbb

(31,384 posts)
24. Yes. The prosecutor was asked during Cohen's
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 05:48 PM
Aug 2018

court appearance if they were in possession of documents, tapes, emails,etc to support the guilty plea and the prosecutor answered affirmatively.

N_E_1 for Tennis

(9,721 posts)
30. Trump should be put under...
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 06:18 PM
Aug 2018

White House arrest.

I know there is no such animal but something of the kind should be initiated. Just a way to throttle him so he can’t do more damage. Everyone is worried about him bombing something if he was “layered” in protocol he might find it impossible. Effectively castrating him.

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
43. Methinks maybe we ought to crowdfund Sean Hannity a lifetime supply of Depends.
Sat Aug 25, 2018, 01:12 PM
Aug 2018

And hope most of the other sycophants blow a few important blood vessels.

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