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Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
1. Incorrect. Cohen presented the Chump Organization with $400,000+ in fake invoices in Feb. 2017
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 10:57 AM
Aug 2018

The purpose was to be reimbursed for the payoffs to women. The Trump Organization paid those invoices in Feb. 2017 WHEN HE WAS A SITTING PRESIDENT !!!!



(6,288 posts)
3. Ya. Ok..TPain's point is in "committing crimes as a civilian"
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 11:10 AM
Aug 2018

This opens the door to prosecution.
Trump & others have claimed "You can't indict a sitting Pres for crimes committed as Pres."

TPain's statement says that argument is now moot since crimes were committed before he was Pres".

That's the specific area he is referring to.


(15,543 posts)
4. Yes, it was a republican CRIME perpetrated specifically to influence the election
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 11:12 AM
Aug 2018

and must have been somewhat of a factor for installing the illegitimate republican occupant of the White House, with his draft-dodger, debt-ridden, casino-hustling background all over the place. repubes didn't give a shit then, and they don't give a shit about America now.


Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
8. Nope. Up until the moment that Donald the Conald reimbursed Cohen, only Cohen had committed
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 11:35 AM
Aug 2018

A crime. There must be consideration on Donald the Conald’s part to implicate him. When he paid Cohen’s fake invoices, consideration was formally acknowledged. This reimbursement happened in Feb. 2017 when Donald the Conald was a sitting president. That meets the threshold of a high crime and misdemeanor because the reimbursement happened while he was a sitting president. Tea Pain was factually inaccurate. This was not a crime committed when Donald the Conald was a civilian.


(1,977 posts)
2. I think what he is getting at
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 11:07 AM
Aug 2018

Is that the "question" about indicting a sitting President is predicated upon the notion that the "crime" was committed while he was President, not prior to taking office. This is an entirely different scenario, that the crime was committed prior to taking office. Further, the repayment was after he took office, which boxes them in to crimes before taking office and after.

Bottom line, there's no way out for Trump. They can seal indictments and have them waiting for him for when he is no longer President.



(6,288 posts)
6. That is it exactly. Trump is a cornered mob rat & there's no way out of this..
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 11:16 AM
Aug 2018

Guess he could flee the country, but the eyes of the world will always know his every move.

I am waiting for the moment all Trump properties are siezed & the entire smug, arrogant Trump Crime Family is stripped of everything, in prison and the Trump Brand is buried.


(90,301 posts)
5. QUESTION: If the president has to be involved in civil legal proceedings why can't the be involved
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 11:15 AM
Aug 2018

... in criminal legal proceedings.

Seems like this question was asked and answered with Clinton no?

thx in advance

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