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manor321

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Tue Aug 21, 2018, 04:11 PM Aug 2018

Manafort jury sends another note! - MSNBC says verdict reached in 8 of 18 counts - GUILTY!




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The Manafort jury has sent another note to the judge. This is the second note today.


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Manafort jury has reached verdict on 8 counts, can't reach consensus on 10 counts


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NEW Manafort's Jury is being polled on whether they can come to decision by end of day on 10 other counts ( 8 are decided)



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MSNBC says we'll get the verdict on the 8 counts today because the judge will declare a mistrial for the other 10 counts.

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MSNBC says the verdict is GUILTY on at least some of the charges!
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Manafort jury sends another note! - MSNBC says verdict reached in 8 of 18 counts - GUILTY! (Original Post) manor321 Aug 2018 OP
To echo past sentiments.... nycbos Aug 2018 #1
Now what?!! Glimmer of Hope Aug 2018 #2
This Could Be It LandOfHopeAndDreams Aug 2018 #3
Dunno if the judge will instruct them to try again twice Loki Liesmith Aug 2018 #14
What's a "gub"? jberryhill Aug 2018 #4
So the note could be, "we're ready to read our verdict" Johnny2X2X Aug 2018 #5
"Shackles ready? We wanna go home!" dawg day Aug 2018 #8
exclusive video of the note delivered today! lapfog_1 Aug 2018 #6
Considering the time of day, it *could* be that they've reached a verdict. bearsfootball516 Aug 2018 #7
I take these as good signs. Bleacher Creature Aug 2018 #9
Ditto.... bobGandolf Aug 2018 #19
"Juror #5 spilled water on the form. We need another one!" dalton99a Aug 2018 #10
Prosecution, Defense, and Manafort are present in the courtroom. Claritie Pixie Aug 2018 #11
That means this is it right? Johnny2X2X Aug 2018 #12
Could be. Let's hope it is. Claritie Pixie Aug 2018 #15
There are EIGHTY replies in seven minutes to Shimon's tweet here!! Leghorn21 Aug 2018 #13
I suspect they are done and ready to read the verdict. honest.abe Aug 2018 #16
If still hung on 1 count, judge may give them the "Allen Charge" Jersey Devil Aug 2018 #17
Wish I was a fly..... bobGandolf Aug 2018 #18
Verdict coming up malaise Aug 2018 #20
 
3. This Could Be It
Tue Aug 21, 2018, 04:16 PM
Aug 2018

Heard on MSNBC this morning that they will send a note when they have verdicts. Or they could still be deadlocked on one count, which means the judge will instruct them 1 last time to try again.

Loki Liesmith

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14. Dunno if the judge will instruct them to try again twice
Tue Aug 21, 2018, 04:20 PM
Aug 2018

Do that too much and defense will use it as grounds for appeal. Looks coercive.

Johnny2X2X

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5. So the note could be, "we're ready to read our verdict"
Tue Aug 21, 2018, 04:16 PM
Aug 2018

At this hour they'd still call parties back in to read the verdict.

bearsfootball516

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7. Considering the time of day, it *could* be that they've reached a verdict.
Tue Aug 21, 2018, 04:17 PM
Aug 2018

Or, they're still deadlocked on that one count.

Bleacher Creature

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9. I take these as good signs.
Tue Aug 21, 2018, 04:18 PM
Aug 2018

It means that they are taking their jobs seriously and not bowing to the will of ideologues on either side. And if the government's case is as strong on paper as people say it is, then these are all positive signs.

Leghorn21

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13. There are EIGHTY replies in seven minutes to Shimon's tweet here!!
Tue Aug 21, 2018, 04:19 PM
Aug 2018

Including

”Can you ask juror #4 to stop microwaving fish in the break room?"





Jersey Devil

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17. If still hung on 1 count, judge may give them the "Allen Charge"
Tue Aug 21, 2018, 04:23 PM
Aug 2018

otherwise known as the "hammer" or "dynamite" charge, basically reading them the riot act about their duty to reach a verdict.

bobGandolf

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18. Wish I was a fly.....
Tue Aug 21, 2018, 04:28 PM
Aug 2018

Not sure which way to view this. I've heard nothing but '...strong case says the prosecutor...' since the indictments, and Manafort's arrest.
My guess....not a slam dunk....he may be innocent of some charges.
Does anyone know what the questions from the jury were?

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