Tue Aug 21, 2018, 11:01 AM

Wwcd (6,288 posts)

Dear Mr. HOGG, Please educate yourself first. Who has stood with you?

Representative Nancy Pelosi's Public Statements on Gun Control.
I dare you to read every word Speaker Pelosi has said concerning your own passionate plea for gun control.
We applaud you, Mr Hogg & support your brave effort.

However, in light of your derogatory statement dismissing Speaker Pelosi as "old", I ask you to consider the mighty work she has done on behalf of your very own passionate cause.

14 years of Nancy Pelosi's work on gun control.
Speaker Pelosi wasn't always "old". But she has always been on the same path as you, Mr Hogg.

https://votesmart.org/candidate/public-statements/26732/nancy-pelosi/37/guns#.W3w1eXNOk0N

Please get to know your alliances & also your enemies.

Simply apologize.
Thank you

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Dear Mr. HOGG, Please educate yourself first. Who has stood with you? (Original post)	Wwcd	Aug 2018	OP
Oh leave the kid be	BeyondGeography	Aug 2018	#1
Really? I dont know any Democrats who know anything about anything who do.	Eliot Rosewater	Aug 2018	#5
How about the 50-something D candidates who either won't vote for her as Speaker	BeyondGeography	Aug 2018	#6
All of us Dems, including that candidate, should not fall for repug framing of who our House...	brush	Aug 2018	#11
This.	Crutchez_CuiBono	Aug 2018	#27
Thank you!	EffieBlack	Aug 2018	#49
Totally agree with you.	Fla Dem	Aug 2018	#80
Indeed!! We need to vote before any decisions can or will be made.	LakeArenal	Aug 2018	#101
Anyone who wants to spend the rest of their evening	SCantiGOP	Aug 2018	#108
Ha!	7962	Aug 2018	#118
Hey, What about Bernie's Democratic Party Creds?	Roy Rolling	Aug 2018	#132
Spot on.	geardaddy	Aug 2018	#142
YOu wont like my answer to that question, but the attempt to destroy the D party from within	Eliot Rosewater	Aug 2018	#19
Pre-election promises are not the same as post election promises. Whose running for Speaker now?	haele	Aug 2018	#20
How about winning the House first--	dawg day	Aug 2018	#28
How about not falling for Republican character assassination campaigns and inadvertently helping	emulatorloo	Aug 2018	#55
They're meanies!!!! n/t	QC	Aug 2018	#60
That says more about them than it does about her.	pazzyanne	Aug 2018	#104
It's not often when a Representative is elected Speaker of the House unanimously.	George II	Aug 2018	#121
How about those 50 or so candidates actually work on persuading their peers..	JHan	Aug 2018	#156
Nailed it!	NurseJackie	Aug 2018	#157
Amen	comradebillyboy	Aug 2018	#8
I don't know of any either Elliot. You make a Good Point!	Wwcd	Aug 2018	#12
+100000000! The people who don't support Nancy Pelosi generally do not have a clue	skylucy	Aug 2018	#76
I will break this to you gently.	PoindexterOglethorpe	Aug 2018	#148
I know who doesnt like her and WHY. Sadly, there are some who dont like her on our side	Eliot Rosewater	Aug 2018	#153
Uh, no.	procon	Aug 2018	#23
This again?	BeyondGeography	Aug 2018	#26
He didnt say leadership was old, he said SHE is old	FreeState	Aug 2018	#52
Agriculture has nothing to do with this	BeyondGeography	Aug 2018	#71
??hu n/t	FreeState	Aug 2018	#83
I too reject agism	BeyondGeography	Aug 2018	#84
ag-riculture . . . ag-ism. n/t	Ms. Toad	Aug 2018	#99
He's 18	dflprincess	Aug 2018	#130
Ageism against Democratic women is an attack line that began with Republicans.	procon	Aug 2018	#61
I gather he was saying she was old, Hatch is old, Trump is old. There is a time...	Honeycombe8	Aug 2018	#110
There is no objection to passing the baton.	procon	Aug 2018	#126
When did old by itself become a disqualifier?	happy feet	Aug 2018	#64
That depends on who you ask?	pazzyanne	Aug 2018	#107
I'm with you Geography....	jodymarie aimee	Aug 2018	#39
If you wish to be ageist against Pelosi, be consistent & be ageist against Carter & Hillary	Bernardo de La Paz	Aug 2018	#43
Apples and oranges	BeyondGeography	Aug 2018	#47
2003? Hillary has been active at the highest levels of government since 1993.	Bernardo de La Paz	Aug 2018	#58
+1	happy feet	Aug 2018	#74
Beyond Geography?	ProfessorGAC	Aug 2018	#111
What constitutes "a lot"? And of those, how many really are Democrats?	George II	Aug 2018	#123
His point is a 70 year old woman shouldn't be the Democratic Speaker of the House.	lark	Aug 2018	#136
70?	BeyondGeography	Aug 2018	#141
Hope some researcher keeps up with his opinions for the next 70 years or so.	Hoyt	Aug 2018	#2
Yes	padah513	Aug 2018	#48
Propaganda works on all of us to some degree.	Eliot Rosewater	Aug 2018	#3
This is what republicans do. Talk so much shit about someone	Thrill	Aug 2018	#4
As well as some right here. Thanks, Thrill, you are absolutely correct.	Wwcd	Aug 2018	#9
This ...	EffieBlack	Aug 2018	#50
The young sometimes	snowybirdie	Aug 2018	#7
My generation knew EVERYTHING	PatSeg	Aug 2018	#22
He's only 18, so give him a break.	The Velveteen Ocelot	Aug 2018	#10
Give him a break? No. He needs to educate himself as to who has fought as he does for gun control	Wwcd	Aug 2018	#15
Exactly!	BigOleDummy	Aug 2018	#42
Tbh, this education approach sounds like something a schoolyard bully would do	Politicub	Aug 2018	#149
Yep, when I was 18, the rule was "don't trust anyone over 30."	JaneQPublic	Aug 2018	#16
No. He might be young and inexperienced, but that's a poor excuse that	procon	Aug 2018	#30
"Never trust anyone over 30!"	Mariana	Aug 2018	#57
He's a mature 18 - he's done good things	nini	Aug 2018	#109
She isn't targeted by GOP b/c she's in the leadership position, she's targeted b/c she's EFFECTIVE	RockRaven	Aug 2018	#13
++++++++ nt	brer cat	Aug 2018	#95
Reading DU responses to your post is interesting.	rogue emissary	Aug 2018	#14
IKR?	The Polack MSgt	Aug 2018	#17
+1000	EffieBlack	Aug 2018	#51
Perplexing indeed!	Heartstrings	Aug 2018	#56
IKR? nt	brer cat	Aug 2018	#96
The Strong Reaction To His Comment	Me.	Aug 2018	#18
He's asking the right question. Age often equals more net worth in Congress.	MadDAsHell	Aug 2018	#21
Most of them are already rich when they first get elected.	Mariana	Aug 2018	#59
It was rude and he should apologize	Power 2 the People	Aug 2018	#24
K&R. -----------Ah, youth. Wasted on the Young.	UTUSN	Aug 2018	#25
So true. heh heh.	Crutchez_CuiBono	Aug 2018	#128
An understanding soul, you are!1	UTUSN	Aug 2018	#129
Wasn't there an earlier post today about	firstwife	Aug 2018	#29
When Dems fight each other in generational warfare, who benefits?	IronLionZion	Aug 2018	#31
No One....	LovingA2andMI	Aug 2018	#35
Republicans and Russian trolls	IronLionZion	Aug 2018	#36
K&R	stonecutter357	Aug 2018	#32
I think he means she	zentrum	Aug 2018	#33
He may have a point about considering someone else as Speaker, though not because of her age	renate	Aug 2018	#34
I was not pleased by his comment.	sinkingfeeling	Aug 2018	#37
Considering that he singled Pelosi out with an "ageist" RW talking point & he	Wwcd	Aug 2018	#45
Let's not be ageist. Let's not condemn Hogg's youth & inexperience, only his ill-considered content.	Bernardo de La Paz	Aug 2018	#38
Let him say his say. What's new about young people	Hortensis	Aug 2018	#40
Don't we need to win the midterms first?	Corgigal	Aug 2018	#41
If he hopes to run in the future...	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Aug 2018	#44
This is a part of embracing youth movements.	NCTraveler	Aug 2018	#46
Well stated....thanks for your post. I agree.	NRaleighLiberal	Aug 2018	#72
what the hell is wrong with people?	bigtree	Aug 2018	#53
yeah - pretty sure we call this a "representative" government	hexola	Aug 2018	#54
Apologize for having an opinion?	HopeAgain	Aug 2018	#62
Wow, saw this coming a mile away.	vi5	Aug 2018	#63
Yep. This right here.	hueymahl	Aug 2018	#137
I'm 71 have voted in EVERY election since it was legal for me to vote.	usaf-vet	Aug 2018	#65
The Reaction On Twitter...	LovingA2andMI	Aug 2018	#66
Thank you. Of all OLD Congress people to name, he chooses his best anti-gun rights ally!	Wwcd	Aug 2018	#67
The Saying Is...	LovingA2andMI	Aug 2018	#68
Isn't it Ageist to condemn his comments because he's "only 18"?	BamaRefugee	Aug 2018	#69
exactly	azureblue	Aug 2018	#135
He's young and has a lot to learn...	Kablooie	Aug 2018	#70
Understandably impatient	Zing Zing Zingbah	Aug 2018	#73
Hell, I've been around twice as long (as Mr. Hogg) roughly	ut oh	Aug 2018	#77
Take your own advice	azureblue	Aug 2018	#75
You owe ME an apology for that nasty personal reply.	Wwcd	Aug 2018	#78
No	melman	Aug 2018	#79
So it's perfectly appropriate to call other politicians too old??	R B Garr	Aug 2018	#85
No idea what you're talking about	melman	Aug 2018	#87
That actually makes sense. You have no idea that this thread	R B Garr	Aug 2018	#89
No	melman	Aug 2018	#90
Yes, I read your post. Calling politicians too old is apparently okay.	R B Garr	Aug 2018	#91
Perhaps you should read it again	melman	Aug 2018	#93
I saw your post. I saw what you said to Wwcd. This	R B Garr	Aug 2018	#94
When I jump into the middle of a discussion in which I wasn't participating, I make a practice....	George II	Aug 2018	#119
That's terrific	melman	Aug 2018	#122
Yes, it's a great policy.	George II	Aug 2018	#124
Yeah	melman	Aug 2018	#125
Annnnnd, here we go again. It's been fun, but I'm not playing tonight.	George II	Aug 2018	#127
NO, it's wasn't "perfectly appropriate".	Cha	Aug 2018	#103
Yes it was	melman	Aug 2018	#112
NO it wasn't.	Cha	Aug 2018	#113
Yes it really was	melman	Aug 2018	#114
NO.	Cha	Aug 2018	#116
Yes	melman	Aug 2018	#117
I've got your back on this one,Wwcd.	pazzyanne	Aug 2018	#115
NO. You're the one who is "getting your drawers in a wad "	Cha	Aug 2018	#88
Pure ageism (and sexism), Cha	mcar	Aug 2018	#97
Yes, and it does need to be addressed..	Cha	Aug 2018	#102
Just wait, kid	The Flood	Aug 2018	#81
Maybe he could start by Naming the Pro-NRA Congresspeople	Wwcd	Aug 2018	#82
An excellent open letter to David Hogg, Wwcd.. it	Cha	Aug 2018	#86
Democrats do not need to be divided.	hamsterjill	Aug 2018	#92
I truly hope David Hogg gets this letter.	BlancheSplanchnik	Aug 2018	#98
Yes, I hope he gets it and it fires him up more	hueymahl	Aug 2018	#139
Indeed!	BlancheSplanchnik	Aug 2018	#140
This thread makes me chuckle.	aikoaiko	Aug 2018	#100
What did he tweet, and why did you not put that? Leave the kid alone, will ya.	Honeycombe8	Aug 2018	#105
White Males have been the most Pro Gun	JI7	Aug 2018	#106
Very disappointed in him. I've lost much respect for him...	NurseJackie	Aug 2018	#120
Of course you have	hueymahl	Aug 2018	#138
Thank you! It's because I have higher standards...	NurseJackie	Aug 2018	#143
He's out over his skis and it's inter-generational strife	bucolic_frolic	Aug 2018	#131
The young often don't have a lot of respect for the old	Mariana	Aug 2018	#144
You miss the point	bucolic_frolic	Aug 2018	#146
K + R	Raastan	Aug 2018	#133
K&R	lapucelle	Aug 2018	#134
Republicans fear Pelosi because she is such an effective leader and because she is female.	Cassidy	Aug 2018	#145
Who are you talking to?	Politicub	Aug 2018	#147
Let's not have hissy fits over word usage, when his general gist was that she's out of touch	Tarc	Aug 2018	#150
Apparently, the Misogyny Lessons From 2016 Still Need Teaching	dlk	Aug 2018	#151
Thank you & apparently those lessons don't want to be learned by those who find them	Wwcd	Aug 2018	#154
November is very close	FlightRN	Aug 2018	#152
Indeed. He needs to know his Ageist comment supports his NRA enemies	Wwcd	Aug 2018	#155

Response to Wwcd (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2018, 11:03 AM

BeyondGeography (38,514 posts)

1. Oh leave the kid be

A lot of of Democrats agree with his basic point.

Dear Mr. HOGG, Please educate yourself first. Who has stood with you?

1. Oh leave the kid be

5. Really? I dont know any Democrats who know anything about anything who do.

6. How about the 50-something D candidates who either won't vote for her as Speaker

11. All of us Dems, including that candidate, should not fall for repug framing of who our House...

27. This.

49. Thank you!

80. Totally agree with you.

101. Indeed!! We need to vote before any decisions can or will be made.

108. Anyone who wants to spend the rest of their evening

118. Ha!

132. Hey, What about Bernie's Democratic Party Creds?

142. Spot on.

19. YOu wont like my answer to that question, but the attempt to destroy the D party from within

20. Pre-election promises are not the same as post election promises. Whose running for Speaker now?

28. How about winning the House first--

55. How about not falling for Republican character assassination campaigns and inadvertently helping

60. They're meanies!!!! n/t

104. That says more about them than it does about her.

121. It's not often when a Representative is elected Speaker of the House unanimously.

156. How about those 50 or so candidates actually work on persuading their peers..

157. Nailed it!

8. Amen

12. I don't know of any either Elliot. You make a Good Point!

76. +100000000! The people who don't support Nancy Pelosi generally do not have a clue

148. I will break this to you gently.

153. I know who doesnt like her and WHY. Sadly, there are some who dont like her on our side

23. Uh, no.

26. This again?

52. He didnt say leadership was old, he said SHE is old

71. Agriculture has nothing to do with this

83. ??hu n/t

84. I too reject agism

99. ag-riculture . . . ag-ism. n/t

130. He's 18

61. Ageism against Democratic women is an attack line that began with Republicans.

110. I gather he was saying she was old, Hatch is old, Trump is old. There is a time...

126. There is no objection to passing the baton.

64. When did old by itself become a disqualifier?

107. That depends on who you ask?

39. I'm with you Geography....

43. If you wish to be ageist against Pelosi, be consistent & be ageist against Carter & Hillary

47. Apples and oranges

58. 2003? Hillary has been active at the highest levels of government since 1993.

74. +1

111. Beyond Geography?

123. What constitutes "a lot"? And of those, how many really are Democrats?

136. His point is a 70 year old woman shouldn't be the Democratic Speaker of the House.

141. 70?

2. Hope some researcher keeps up with his opinions for the next 70 years or so.

48. Yes

3. Propaganda works on all of us to some degree.

4. This is what republicans do. Talk so much shit about someone

9. As well as some right here. Thanks, Thrill, you are absolutely correct.

50. This ...

7. The young sometimes

22. My generation knew EVERYTHING

10. He's only 18, so give him a break.

15. Give him a break? No. He needs to educate himself as to who has fought as he does for gun control

42. Exactly!

149. Tbh, this education approach sounds like something a schoolyard bully would do

16. Yep, when I was 18, the rule was "don't trust anyone over 30."

30. No. He might be young and inexperienced, but that's a poor excuse that

57. "Never trust anyone over 30!"

109. He's a mature 18 - he's done good things

13. She isn't targeted by GOP b/c she's in the leadership position, she's targeted b/c she's EFFECTIVE

95. ++++++++ nt

14. Reading DU responses to your post is interesting.

17. IKR?

51. +1000

56. Perplexing indeed!

96. IKR? nt

18. The Strong Reaction To His Comment

21. He's asking the right question. Age often equals more net worth in Congress.

59. Most of them are already rich when they first get elected.

24. It was rude and he should apologize

25. K&R. -----------Ah, youth. Wasted on the Young.

128. So true. heh heh.

129. An understanding soul, you are!1

29. Wasn't there an earlier post today about