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Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:15 PM

Fuck you, you Green Party voting motherfuckers!

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Reply Fuck you, you Green Party voting motherfuckers! (Original post)
Floyd R. Turbo Aug 2018 OP
dalton99a Aug 2018 #1
Power 2 the People Aug 2018 #2
Ponietz Aug 2018 #3
Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2018 #23
ProudLib72 Aug 2018 #4
onecaliberal Aug 2018 #16
TomSlick Aug 2018 #5
True Dough Aug 2018 #6
R B Garr Aug 2018 #7
Maraya1969 Aug 2018 #8
Stallion Aug 2018 #10
Maraya1969 Aug 2018 #13
ProudLib72 Aug 2018 #25
Fred Sanders Aug 2018 #50
ProudLib72 Aug 2018 #53
Fred Sanders Aug 2018 #15
oberliner Aug 2018 #9
still_one Aug 2018 #11
sheshe2 Aug 2018 #17
workinclasszero Aug 2018 #12
PoliticAverse Aug 2018 #28
alp227 Aug 2018 #49
drmeow Aug 2018 #14
Hekate Aug 2018 #27
drmeow Aug 2018 #32
Hekate Aug 2018 #46
rusty quoin Aug 2018 #58
JoeOtterbein Aug 2018 #18
Floyd R. Turbo Aug 2018 #21
argyl Aug 2018 #22
JoeOtterbein Aug 2018 #24
still_one Aug 2018 #42
Jim Lane Aug 2018 #61
still_one Aug 2018 #62
R B Garr Aug 2018 #63
JI7 Aug 2018 #45
argyl Aug 2018 #19
still_one Aug 2018 #44
argyl Aug 2018 #47
SemiHalfling Aug 2018 #20
Mr.Bill Aug 2018 #26
generalbetrayus Aug 2018 #54
liberalhistorian Aug 2018 #29
dalton99a Aug 2018 #30
Wednesdays Aug 2018 #31
Initech Aug 2018 #33
amlehn Aug 2018 #34
krawhitham Aug 2018 #35
hexola Aug 2018 #36
DallasNE Aug 2018 #37
iluvtennis Aug 2018 #38
luvtheGWN Aug 2018 #41
iluvtennis Aug 2018 #43
TheRealNorth Aug 2018 #39
Post removed Aug 2018 #40
joshcryer Aug 2018 #48
Ponietz Aug 2018 #55
LandOfHopeAndDreams Aug 2018 #51
chwaliszewski Aug 2018 #52
blue-wave Aug 2018 #56
jalan48 Aug 2018 #57
Gothmog Aug 2018 #59
jimlup Aug 2018 #60

Response to Floyd R. Turbo (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:16 PM

1. Useful idiot assholes

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Response to Floyd R. Turbo (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:17 PM

2. They did it again

Fucking unreal.

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Response to Floyd R. Turbo (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:17 PM

3. Aiden says it well

[link:http://
?s=21|

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Response to Ponietz (Reply #3)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:45 PM

23. Well written! Imaginative! True! +3. . . . nt

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Response to Floyd R. Turbo (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:18 PM

4. Die Green Party, Die!

They are all just Russian plants.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Reply #4)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:35 PM

16. So much that.

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Response to Floyd R. Turbo (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:20 PM

5. Saints above.

WTF are they thinking?

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Response to Floyd R. Turbo (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:22 PM

6. This seems stronger in tone

than your turn signal fluid thread, Floyd!

That said, I agree with your sentiment.

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Response to Floyd R. Turbo (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:23 PM

7. Russia lovers and/or Republicans.

They need to be called out nonstop.

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Response to Floyd R. Turbo (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:24 PM

8. This is the first time I have ever heard a declaration that the Green Party is an arm of the

Republican Party. And I am fairly up on things. I always knew it was throwing your vote away but I didn't realize it was organized.

This needs to be taught to everyone. Bill Maher needs to tell people and so do different news sources. Because I bet there are people who don't know and who are being fooled into voting for them

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Response to Maraya1969 (Reply #8)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:27 PM

10. Maher Does All the Time Because He Supported Ralph Nader and Regrets It

he made a play that you can't vote 3rd Party numerous times

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Response to Stallion (Reply #10)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:30 PM

13. I've never heard him say that third party was an organized arm of the republican party

Or a deliberate entity to try and stop Democrats. THAT needs to be said. I remember him and Michael Moore getting down on their knees and begging Ralph Nader to not run in the 2000 election and the bastard wouldn't step down. That is different than telling people that Nadar was connected with the Republicans and was trying to fuck everything up....which is what he did, along with the cheating in FL

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Response to Maraya1969 (Reply #13)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:49 PM

25. I'm leaning toward Nader not being part of the R party's plans

However, I also suspect that it was around that time the Rs realized how much damage a third party candidate could do to the Dems and decided to use that going forward. This is, of course, all speculation based on my distrust of the dirty Rs. What I find incredible is that the rest of the voters have not caught on to the notion that third party candidates' main purpose is to gum up the works.

I remember TAing for a class when I was in graduate school (around 2000). I forget what we were discussing, but there was a kid who got angry with all the other students for believing we had a two party system. He actually stood up and started yelling. Young voters like that are what caused the light to go off above the Rs' heads.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Reply #25)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 11:12 PM

50. Folks believing Nader was Party of the Republicans plan have a poor grasp of history, or Nadar.

All this election sadness i understand, the rest of the stuff is just sad.

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #50)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 11:37 PM

53. Nader, no. Stein, yes.

Maybe it wasn't the Rs but pooty poot who figured it out. He's a scheming bastard.

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Response to Maraya1969 (Reply #8)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:34 PM

15. Me too...and the math says almost all the Green vote would go Democrat, or these voters would

even show up at all....for a dinner party serving the same two entree choices again? Maybe would skip that, for some.

Strange how in the land of free speech any free speech from a third, fourth or any other plotical Party is attacked without logical cause.

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Response to Floyd R. Turbo (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:26 PM

9. Igor Bobic from HuffPost just tweeted this

 

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Response to Floyd R. Turbo (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:28 PM

11. There used to be a TOS rule that if you didn't vote for the Democrat in the election you were

persona non grata here

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Response to still_one (Reply #11)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:38 PM

17. STILL IS!

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Response to Floyd R. Turbo (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:28 PM

12. Did those dirty ******** get a win for the GOP again?

 

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Response to workinclasszero (Reply #12)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:55 PM

28. Apparently not as the Republican is ahead by more than the entire Green Party vote total. n/t

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Response to workinclasszero (Reply #12)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 11:09 PM

49. The Republican has 50.15% of the vote as of now.

http://radio.wosu.org/post/ohio-12th-congressional-district-special-election-results

So the total "liberal votes" (Democrats + Greens) would still not be enough for an outright win.

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Response to Floyd R. Turbo (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:31 PM

14. IMO the Green Party (and other non mainstream parties)

should focus on smaller local elections - where they have a chance at winning and where they can have a greater impact on things.

They seem to have the same view of politics that the pro term limits and the people who vote for Trump have - that anyone can do it, that there is no learning curve, and that working your way up isn't necessary. There is a tremendous arrogance about it - vote for me, I've never done anything in government but, hell, how hard can it be?

Some of that may be true for the two major parties but when you have a pretty small footprint, trying to compete with big foot is futile. To make it as an outsider you need huge name recognition and/or an amazing track record. On the other hand, if they get onto school boards and public utility boards and city councils they could actually have an impact at a local level and lay the ground work for a serious shot at the bigger prizes.

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Response to drmeow (Reply #14)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:55 PM

27. I USED to say that. But that was before it became glaringly obvious who they really work for...

They're not working for the American people, and oddly it is never Republicans who lose when Greens are on the ballot. I wonder why that is?

Dick Nixon had a name for such people in politics: Ratfuckers. What they do is Ratfucking. Democrats and Democratic candidates get Ratfucked.

They can go to Hell.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #27)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:09 PM

32. Running in smaller local elections

would weed out the real Green party types from the Ratfuckers - we'd get to see their policies directly.

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Response to drmeow (Reply #32)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:50 PM

46. I've been earnestly giving that advice since 1998. I am so DONE. They don't want school boards...

They don't want city councils. The believers all think they can jump straight to POTUS. The candidates seem to have another agenda altogether.

Here's your major clue: Ralph Nader has run several times. He takes money from the GOP. Jill Stein is a hundred times worse: She takes dinner with Vladimir Putin.

They are ratfucking us Democrats and our big tent.

I am done making excuses for their supposed naiveté and supposed good intentions. Old saying: The road to Hell is paved with good intentions. And after participating in Election 2016, they can go there.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #46)

Wed Aug 8, 2018, 12:26 AM

58. You are probably right. I cared nothing about Stein,

but I did know Nader’s history and it is hard for me to be not be loyal to someone who worked for the good of the people.

Ratfucking gave us Trump. I know that. It is not a game. It’s our children’s lives.

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Response to Floyd R. Turbo (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:40 PM

18. Seems to me we need to win Green Partiers voters. Let's ask them to vote for us, Before

we curse them out!

(Jeeze!)

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Response to JoeOtterbein (Reply #18)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:42 PM

21. Give me a fucking break! Fuck them and everyone that votes like them!

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Response to JoeOtterbein (Reply #18)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:45 PM

22. Absolutely. I think they'd be an easier convert than a die hard Trumper.

It sucks that they're throwing their vote away but it's better than cancelling a vote for a Democratic candidate.

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Response to argyl (Reply #22)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:46 PM

24. Exactly! Easy Does It!

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Response to JoeOtterbein (Reply #18)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:41 PM

42. Been there, done that. Perhaps you don't recall the 2000 election, when the Democratic party wanted

to work with them, but Nader effectively told us to "go to hell"

So, after 2000 and 2016, f**k em.

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Response to still_one (Reply #42)

Wed Aug 8, 2018, 06:52 PM

61. Perhaps YOU don't recall the 2004 election.

 

Most of the Green Party voters saw the error of their ways. Nader's support fell precipitously (by about three-quarters, IIRC). His own 2000 running mate, Winona LaDuke, endorsed Kerry.

This "Fuck you, you Green Party voters" is childish petulance. It is not a considered strategy for winning elections.

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Response to Jim Lane (Reply #61)

Wed Aug 8, 2018, 07:14 PM

62. Childish petulance? You mean LIKE THIS

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1280104210

or those over at JPR

Please spare me this holier than though nonesense


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Response to Jim Lane (Reply #61)

Thu Aug 9, 2018, 12:29 AM

63. Wrong. We've learned a lot since 2000 and it certainly

is not “childish” to give the current “greens” a taste of their own medicine. If they had been exposed more along the way for the liars and frauds they are, they wouldn’t pull in the gullible people that they do. Anyone supporting Jill Stein is not to be taken seriously. The greens are mostly Putin lovers or Republicans, infiltrated to the max. C’mon now! We are not gullible here.

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Response to JoeOtterbein (Reply #18)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:49 PM

45. no, we need to expose them as their goal is to help republicans

 

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Response to argyl (Reply #19)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:42 PM

44. You do realize that isn't the same thing as the context being presented here, right?

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Response to Floyd R. Turbo (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:41 PM

20. Ooh this makes me *mad*

Retweeting gleeful GOP polls?

Years ago when I was too young to understand what politics even were I was naive enough to think they were benign, here’s some clear proof that’s not the case.

Edit: maybe not all of them everywhere, but they need to press their leaders for some accountability

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Response to Floyd R. Turbo (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:54 PM

26. A lot of people here are making the assumption

that all the Green voters would have voted for the Democratic candidate.


It is my opinion that many if not most of them would not have voted at all. They don't care if they are voting for a losing cause. They lost any interest in our two party system a long time ago, and have little interest in the Democratic or republican platforms. They have no faith in traditional major party candidates at all. The only reason they vote is for the principle of making a protest vote. Frankly, as far as political discourse goes, I wouldn't give them the time of day.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #26)

Wed Aug 8, 2018, 12:00 AM

54. Someone on Rachel, I forget who, suggested that some of the Green Party voters

might have been moderate Republicans who didn't want to vote for a Trump-loving Republican but couldn't bring themselves to vote for a Democrat either. There is merit to your argument, too.

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Response to Floyd R. Turbo (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:03 PM

29. The whole Green party can go

fuck themselves, hard, with a long, rusty nail. The party has NEVER done ANYTHING other than help elect Republicans. And maybe that's their whole intended purpose, frankly. I wouldn't be at all surprised.

They only seem to trash Dems and the Dem party, never, or hardly ever, Republicans. And I'm sure Stein enjoyed her little repast with Putin, she certainly appeared to be relaxed and enjoying herself with a tyrannical dictator, the "former" KGB man.

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Response to liberalhistorian (Reply #29)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:04 PM

30. +1

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Response to Floyd R. Turbo (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:09 PM

31. ...

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Response to Floyd R. Turbo (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:10 PM

33. The Green Party: how is this still a thing?

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Response to Floyd R. Turbo (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:10 PM

34. Yup! Pretty much what I just said to my brother.

And I'll say it again. Fucking fuckers. What is exactly to be gained? There is no platform from what I can tell and sadly also there are no more checks and balances for IQ45. So disappointed. Decent showing though. But I'm ready to lose hope.

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Response to Floyd R. Turbo (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:11 PM

35. It's not like they would vote overwhelming for dems if they did not vote green

At best maybe the split 60-40 for us

green votes 1,127
676 would go for dems
451 would go for GOP

net gain 225 votes

We're down 1,754 votes

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Response to Floyd R. Turbo (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:12 PM

36. The Green Party can join Alex Jones in life's "Fuck Off!" line.

 

)(*^^*&%^&%#%#

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Response to Floyd R. Turbo (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:14 PM

37. Voter Suppression Is Bigger Problem

1.5 percent of ballots cast were provisional meaning those voters were disenfranchised. That is the story of this election, hands down.

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Response to Floyd R. Turbo (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:16 PM

38. In the state this country is in, you have vote for the person who can realistically take on the GOP

. This is so SAD. Haven't they learned anything from 2016. When you'rein the fight of your life, you have to put your principle aside and vote for the one who will do the less evil.

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Response to iluvtennis (Reply #38)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:34 PM

41. There are those who suggest that the USA would be better off

with a 3 or 4-Party system. Problem is (as I see it and putting aside the Greens or the Libertarians) any additional party would be either a far-right or far-left party. The two main parties would veer too far to try to capture those far-right or far-left voters and the US would become even more divided than it already is.

It just wouldn't work in the U.S. In a parliamentary system such as in Canada, the UK, Australia etc. it does tend to work because our system is not an either/or one.

I recall just prior to the 2016 election listening to 3 young people being interviewed on NPR -- 2 were voting Green and 1 was voting Libertarian. They couldn't really explain why -- except to say they were anti-GOP and anti-Democrat.

Just my 2 Canadian cents' worth, friends!

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Response to luvtheGWN (Reply #41)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:42 PM

43. And we appreciate your $0.02.

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Response to Floyd R. Turbo (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:17 PM

39. Scott Walker says

OP: Keep up the great work




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Response to Floyd R. Turbo (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 11:03 PM

48. Green Party voters are idiots.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #48)

Wed Aug 8, 2018, 12:05 AM

55. Exhibit A

[link:http://
?s=21|

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Response to Floyd R. Turbo (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2018, 11:24 PM

51. Blame The Democrats Who Didn't Bother To Vote nt

 

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Response to Floyd R. Turbo (Original post)

Wed Aug 8, 2018, 12:09 AM

56. I never gave them

much thought, but I will now actively campaign against them every chance I get.

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Response to Floyd R. Turbo (Original post)

Wed Aug 8, 2018, 12:16 AM

57. It looks like the Green vote really didn't matter.

OHIO
U.S. House - District 12 - Special General
100 % Precincts Reporting Aug. 07, 2018 22:51 ET
Party Name Votes Vote %
GOP
Balderson, Troy
101,574
50.15 %
Dem
O'Connor, Danny
99,820
49.29 %
Grn
Manchik, Joe
1,127
0.56 %

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Response to Floyd R. Turbo (Original post)

Wed Aug 8, 2018, 09:14 AM

59. Agreed

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Response to Floyd R. Turbo (Original post)

Wed Aug 8, 2018, 10:50 AM

60. Calm down... they were never with us anyway

it is wrong in my opinion to blame the current shambless of our nation's politics on them. They have marginalized themselves and there they will stay.

They will continue to struggle with irrelevance while we retake the country from evil.

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