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woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 02:08 PM Aug 2012

Our official national lie – Outdated formula underreports poverty in US families

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2012-08-06/news/bs-md-rodricks-0807-20120806_1_american-poverty-poverty-threshold-sufficiency

Our official national lie – Americans in poverty
An outdated formula makes the U.S. family portrait brighter than it really is
August 06, 2012|Dan Rodricks

It's our official national lie — the number of Americans we consider poor...Even as the U.S. Census Bureau prepares to report the highest level of poverty in 50 years, we are lying to ourselves about the number of Americans who can't make ends meet without government help or charity.
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The author of the report is Diana Pearce, a social work professor at the University of Washington. She developed the self-sufficiency standards in the 1990s and has conducted such surveys in 37 states. It appears to be exhaustive work that factors in all kinds of real costs — food, transportation, child care, health care, housing — and geographic variables.....Pearce's standard calculates an ideal: "How much income a family of a certain composition in a given place needs to adequately meet their basic needs — without public or private assistance."

Even allowing for "advocacy bias," Pearce's numbers are so far from the official definition of poverty that anyone capable of real-world logic would see the lack of honesty in the government's calculations. Her model seems to match its boast as "a more comprehensive measure of income adequacy than the Federal Poverty Level."

Imagine if "income adequacy for self-sufficiency" were to be the new standard. Clearly, the bottom of our society would appear much larger than it does now...

(more at link, including discussion of revised formulas...)
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Our official national lie – Outdated formula underreports poverty in US families (Original Post) woo me with science Aug 2012 OP
Just add it to the pile with the inflation numbers, body counts and unemployment stats kenny blankenship Aug 2012 #1
Well said. woo me with science Aug 2012 #3
+1 leftstreet Aug 2012 #5
Du rec. Nt xchrom Aug 2012 #2
I am not surprised. ananda Aug 2012 #4
Add to that the fact that the U.S. Supreme Court allowed coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #7
Thank you Trillo Aug 2012 #6
Hmmm...sounds about right Hydra Aug 2012 #8
+1000000 What is being done to Americans woo me with science Aug 2012 #9
Kick woo me with science Aug 2012 #10

kenny blankenship

(15,689 posts)
1. Just add it to the pile with the inflation numbers, body counts and unemployment stats
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 02:14 PM
Aug 2012

My government lies. I'm so shocked.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
7. Add to that the fact that the U.S. Supreme Court allowed
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 03:07 PM
Aug 2012

the execution of a man with an IQ of 61 yesterday in Texas.

I would call that a disgrace to the human race.

Trillo

(9,154 posts)
6. Thank you
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 03:01 PM
Aug 2012

It appears the purpose of honor codes such as "I will never lie cheat or steal, and discourage others from such actions", codes such as that given to students at military academies, are 'perhaps' designed to only allow those at the top of hierarchies to lie. All others must be honest. If you're the top liar, do you want your 'underlings' to lie to you"?

Hypocrisy is the basis of our existence, it seems.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
8. Hmmm...sounds about right
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 07:47 PM
Aug 2012

I'm always told I "make too much&quot 17kish on a good year) when I apply for job training or any other kind of help since I have a disabled dependent(but not one I can claim for EIC).

It would be nice if we were taking this issue seriously, but I guess we won't until all of us are down at the bottom fighting over whatever is left.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
9. +1000000 What is being done to Americans
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 10:09 PM
Aug 2012

is a national emergency far greater than 9/11.

Yes, it would be nice if our government were taking this seriously. Unfortunately, we don't seem to have the financial prerequisites to be the ones they represent anymore.

The theft will continue for exactly as long as Americans tolerate it.

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