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Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:29 PM

Do you consider Rep. Schiff Presidential material?

I can imagine him in the Oval Office.

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Reply Do you consider Rep. Schiff Presidential material? (Original post)
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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:29 PM

1. Yes......definitely.

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:29 PM

2. Yes.

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:29 PM

3. I like him. N/t

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:31 PM

4. Without a doubt.

He is smart, thoughtful, always in control of his message. In some ways he reminds me of president Obama.

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:32 PM

5. Yes

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:32 PM

6. YES!!!

My first choice.

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:32 PM

7. Yes, I would vote him in a heartbeat.

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:33 PM

8. I'm very impressed with him. I haven't heard any hints that he's interested, but

if he was, based on what I've seen so far he'd be on my list of candidates I could easily support.

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:34 PM

9. I like him but

I’m not sure he has the charisma for a presidential run

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:35 PM

10. Presidential with IQ like Hillary, but like HRC, not much pizzazz.

Definitely can fill the bill as U.S. Atty. General.

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Response to oasis (Reply #10)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:52 PM

21. Do we actually want a president with pizzazz? OR do we want someone who is more like

a rock solid individual?

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Response to shraby (Reply #21)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:57 PM

25. Think back a few years

Obama had pizzazz and he was a rock solid individual. The combination is rare, but it happens. Brian Schweitzer of Montana is another.

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Response to shraby (Reply #21)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 10:04 PM

28. I'd take Schiff without a 2nd thought.

It's the "who would you rather have a beer with?" crowd that needs convincing.

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Response to oasis (Reply #10)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 11:17 PM

35. I absolutely think he is presidential.

Just like I thought Hillary and John Kerry were presidential. The problem is that the majority of Americans do not warm up to intelligent, intellectual policy wonks. I don't understand it because I think these people are the ideal candidates.

However, the average Joe and Jane want some racist, liberal-hating, nihilist who they can imagine themselves having a brewski with. I despair for the state of the electorate of this nation. Most of them have no business voting.

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #35)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 11:55 PM

50. I volunteered for both Kerry and HRC during primary season

in the two states I lived at the time. There was no doubt in my mind they were the best candidates overall in 2004/2008, although I was pleased with the way Obama carried himself during his entire presidency.

Michele Obama continues to be my favorite quasi-political person of all.

Dunno what or who's next, but I've and put my time and energy in support of some of the best ever.

I have hopes for our America.

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:38 PM

11. He would be a fine president.

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:41 PM

12. Yes!

I was just talking with my husband about him this afternoon.

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:41 PM

13. ABSOLUTELY!

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:42 PM

14. No. He's brilliant at what he does, but he doesn't inspire me

A president has to have a strong vision and the charisma to inspire us to buy into that vision. It needs to be someone with fire in his or her belly. As much as I like Schiff, I don't see him in that role

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:45 PM

15. Not Really

I'd make him spy chief or head of House Intel with lots of subpoena power

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:46 PM

16. Yes

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:47 PM

17. Brilliant yes. Charisma no.

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:49 PM

18. I appreciate all the replies...

And you who are saying that he doesn't have the charisma are probably right....and that is a shame that "charisma" is how we elect our representatives.

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:50 PM

19. Attorney General

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Response to peekaloo (Reply #19)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 11:46 PM

48. +1

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:52 PM

20. I can imagine him as one Hell of an Attorney General

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:54 PM

22. I hate to say this but I think too many people would reject him because he looks weird

He'd be better off in a supporting role.

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Response to budkin (Reply #22)

Wed Jul 25, 2018, 06:54 AM

64. The only good looking president in my lifetime was Obama.

(I know people think Kennedy was great looking but I never saw it.)

With Schiff, I'd vote for him in a nanosecond.

But you know I like TAMMY DUCKWORTH! for president.

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:54 PM

23. IMO, he would be an excellent president.

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:55 PM

24. Yes

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:58 PM

26. yes

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 10:01 PM

27. Nope.

I think he is one of our best representatives in Congress. That doesn't mean he's Presidential Material. We need those great reps and senators in Congress. We shouldn't start talking about every Democrat we like as Presidential. Especially if they haven't said they are interested in running for President.

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 10:07 PM

29. The other day, some folks said Eric Holder shouldn't run because he supposedly lacks charisma

But now people are falling all over Rep. Schiff.

Hmmm.

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #29)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 10:20 PM

33. Unlike a lot of Americans, I go for the thoughtful cerebral type. Holder and Schiff both have that..

But most people are looking for someone with star power, pizazz.

Fortunately for all of us, Barack Obama had it all.

Unfortunately for all of us, reserved and restrained (but bright and experienced) Hillary was up against a reality tv star gifted with ratlike cunning and backed by Putin. She still won, by the numbers, as I never tire of saying, but she is not in the Oval Office.

What I am saying is that while I would vote for either of these men in a heartbeat, I'm not sure how far they could get.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #33)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 11:31 PM

42. Holder and Schiff are at the top for me. When asked if he'd run, Holder said, "we'll see." I lit up.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #33)

Wed Jul 25, 2018, 01:39 AM

61. I hear you.

I want someone smart and talented who can WIN.

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #29)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 11:32 PM

44. i find both of them appealing . i like policy wonk types

 

i never cared for the so called charisma that certain types like Bush are said to have. i don't even consider those types charismatic.

even in the case of people like Obama and Bill Clinton what i found appealing about them was the same thing as the others .

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Response to JI7 (Reply #44)

Wed Jul 25, 2018, 08:59 AM

66. Charisma is in the eye of the beholder and is often culturally biased

Many people thought Obama didn't have charisma and passion because he didn't talk loud and fast. But black men often cannot talk loud and fast without being viewed as "angry black men," so they afoptva lower key, softer tone, which some people unaware of that dynamic may see as a lack of passion. Obama was constantly accused of that.

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #29)

Wed Jul 25, 2018, 12:32 AM

59. I really like Eric Holder, but the Republicans have tainted his chances.

Found him in "contempt", blamed him for "fast and furious".

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 10:10 PM

30. He's a fine man; thorough, humble, sincere and honest...

And once upon a time, that would have been enough.

But today’s politics are incredibly dirty, tough, and frankly mean. Given that reality, any viable candidate has to be charismatic and have a bit of “street fighter” in her/him. I cannot see Rep. Schiff as a winner in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan — in short, the states where 45 eked out a Russian-pushed victory.

I have no ideas yet, as I’m focused on 2018, and putting the brakes on the runaway train that is wall-to-wall, far-right Republican.

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 10:19 PM

31. I do.

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 10:19 PM

32. He's been tireless

against trump.

He would get my vote.

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 10:48 PM

34. No.

 

He's been excellent at chasing tRump--but that doesn't make him presidential.

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 11:21 PM

36. Absolutely. He is quiet compared to what we have now, but he is consistently level and sane.

I think he looks at the entire picture and doesn't make decisions on the run like Trump. It has been a short period of time Trump has been in office, but it has been a period of constant chaos. I don't see anything near that from Schiff.

He has also been up front about calling out Nunes and his cohorts when they are trying to cover up anything derogatory toward Trump. Schiff is dogged in getting the information whether they like it or not. I think the Democrats on that committee also agree with and follow Schiff closely and look up to him.

He would be a welcome contrast and one that we deserve.

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 11:22 PM

37. I consider a ham sandwich with a D by it presidential material over any R.

Nuff said.

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 11:23 PM

38. Most definitely. My #1 pick.

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 11:26 PM

39. I think highly of him. But he's not really Presidential material, I think.

There are certain types that win. I'm afraid he's not one of them.

There are actually physical attributes to winning the Presidential office, too, believe it or not. I read an article about it once. It has to do with what kind of person people see as a leader. Generally, attractive, tall, charismatic.

FDR won because he wasn't shown in his wheelchair. But he was thought to be attractive & tall, and was charismatic. Reagan, Kennedy, Clinton, Carter (charming more than charismatic), Obama, Bush Jr & Sr... Although there have been exceptions, like Nixon (although he's tall).

If Biden were younger, he'd have a good chance, I think. Tall, handsome, charismatic personality. Although there, too...if you have a long history in the Senate or House, there's a lot of votes, missed votes, and material to be attacked.

People also tend to think it's best if a governor or other executive becomes President, because it's an Executive job, whereas Congress is a legislative job...teamwork, committees, etc. Different set of skills. Not executive decision making.

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #39)

Wed Jul 25, 2018, 09:37 AM

68. The idiot who is in office now broke ALL the molds of what we

imagine "presidential" material to be. I guess his type was "white male, racist, misogynous, and with a phobia of ethnicity's."

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Reply #68)

Wed Jul 25, 2018, 10:52 AM

69. No...he fits the traits.

He's very tall. He WAS handsome as a young man, and for an old dude, is attractive when compared to many others his age. He's authoritarian in that he talks boldly, "appears" to be a leader, and he comes from a background where he called the shots rather than a committee-consensus basis thing, like Congress.

Ideologically or politically, his positions were different. But that's not what my post was talking about. He fits the profile that I've read about.

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 11:28 PM

40. Absolutely. His calm demeanor in the center of this storm is comforting.

Lots of good candidates.

One thing I will NOT do is argue with fellow travelers. From what we know of the Mueller investigation, and all that acrimony between Sanders and Clinton supporters, Russia was stirring that pot. And I'm confident that I fell prey to some of it. And it sickens me.

I will not be goaded into an argument. I refuse to take the bait. Putin won once. He must not win again.

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 11:30 PM

41. Absolutely.

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 11:31 PM

43. Yes please! I love his demeanor and intelligence.


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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 11:33 PM

45. Yes

And I could happily vote for him.

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 11:35 PM

46. I've mulled this over myself....

Unfortunately, (and this isn't how I would want it).... I think the charisma is very important...I just do. You kind of need all the pieces...like President Obama. I think about most of my friends (who are very progressive but don't watch Rachel, CSPAN, etc.) and they know few details about what's really going on (I'm mainly speaking about Russia). Right now, I like Chris Murphy of Connecticut (who has expressed no interest in running).....Having said all of this, I think Adam Schiff would be an awesome Attorney General.

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 11:45 PM

47. Yes!!!

The Dems need more people like Adam Schiff!

Schiff/Lieu 2020!

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Response to Catch2.2 (Reply #47)

Wed Jul 25, 2018, 01:02 AM

60. Ted Lieu was born in Taiwan,

thus he cannot run as either president or vice-president.

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 11:46 PM

49. The reich wingers have already vilified him and cast enough smoke...

He is currently one notch above Hillary and Pelosi in their hate column. I don't think it's a good idea. Yes...he is brilliant; but leave him do what he does best....call it what it is, and explain it to the simple minded viewers so they don't get lost on their iPhones.

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2018, 11:58 PM

51. I like him, but...

I also like Eric Swalwell a lot and could definitely see him as a president too: maybe president and VP?

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2018, 12:04 AM

52. He Is My Personal Fav, But He Is Jewish

 

Can you imagine the bible-thumpers going ape-shit?

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2018, 12:06 AM

53. He's not a TV reality game show entertainer.

Does that disqualify him and other "substance" types?

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2018, 12:14 AM

54. What with the shit-show going on in the WH now, I can imagine anybody in the WH.

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2018, 12:15 AM

55. Definitely.

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2018, 12:26 AM

56. Too cerebral....

His focus doesn't seem broad enough for chief executive.

I like him. He's great on the Intel Committee. Attorney General maybe.

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2018, 12:27 AM

57. Winning 2018 is practical & must come first before any daydreams like that can be put into play. .nt

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2018, 12:30 AM

58. Definitely!

I can picture Adam Schiff as president... Anyone other than the brain dead ourangutan we have now. There are chimps who could be better presidents than Igolf Twitterler is.

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2018, 01:40 AM

62. Yes. He's a serious man. Just what we need at this point in history.

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2018, 01:57 AM

63. nope..a 2 on the charisma scale.. Swallwell has more a 7 maybe

unfortunately, Americans either want good looking people or very persuasive, exciting people

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2018, 06:56 AM

65. I just had a flash imagining that smart, thoughtful man as president.

Wouldn't it be great?

Won't it be great when ANYONE else is president?

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Response to Squinch (Reply #65)

Wed Jul 25, 2018, 09:34 AM

67. I would prefer a cardboard cut-out of President Obama rather

than the idiot we have now.

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