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https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a21931194/sarah-huckabee-sanders-red-hen-civility/The Civility Debate Has Reached Peak Stupidity
We got here around the time Newt Gingrich called for more civil discourse.
By Charles P. Pierce
Jun 25, 2018
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By all accounts, the most civil action taken in Laffaire Poule Rouge was the way Stephanie Wilkinson handled her refusal to serve Sarah Huckabee Sanders at the Red Hen restaurant in Lexington, Virginia. She first consulted with her staff, several members of which were gay and were angry at the administration*s policies in that regard, and everyone was outraged by what was going on at the border. Wilkinson then took a vote on whether or not to serve Sanders. When the staff voted not to do so, she politely informed Sanders and her party that they would not be eating at the Red Hen that night. She even comped them the cheese plates theyd already ordered.
She did not use an official government Twitter account to discuss the episode, as Sanders did later. She did not use the power of the Oval Office to try and destroy someones business, as the president* found time to do later. She asked the staff what they wanted to do. She took a vote. She abided by their wishes. If theres a more civil way of saying no to someone, I dont know what it would be.
It would have remained a shiny object unworthy of pursuit had it not roiled up a good portion of official Washington, which seemed grateful to be discussing anything except hijacked migrant children. Suddenly, just as the issue of the hijacked children was beginning to bite the administration* severely in the ass, here was an event over which the elite political media could do one of its favorite traditional fan dances: the Question of Civility.
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This debate is stupid. Its also dangerously beside the point. SarahHuck is the lying mouthpiece of a lying regime that is one step away from simply hauling people off in trucks. That she was politely told to take her business elsewhere is a small step towards assigning public responsibility to public officials that enable a perilous brand of politics. There are bigger steps to be taken, but everyone in official Washington is too damn timid to do what really needs to be done about this band of pirates.
So, Sarah, since I know it is hard for you to understand even short sentences, Ill put it as briefly as I can: Take a hike.
Coventina
(27,115 posts)SamKnause
(13,102 posts)Exactly !!!
PunkinPi
(4,875 posts)nice riposte of what SHS said to Acosta in the press briefing.
gibraltar72
(7,503 posts)Goebbels was ever made uncomfortable in a restaurant?
Coventina
(27,115 posts)Jewish-owned art gallery in Paris (before the war).
In retaliation, when Paris fell, that art gallery was one of the first ones looted.
irisblue
(32,972 posts)At a DC resteraunt last week.
JHB
(37,160 posts)AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)Tipperary
(6,930 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Something Trump staffers will have to be vigilant for, from now until the end of time. Those who survive the coming civil war.
alterfurz
(2,474 posts)...is still going to restaurants thinking she's getting clean food." -- @girlsreallyrule
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)lambchopp59
(2,809 posts)It only saved Sarah from the chocolate ExLax chip cookie desert.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)tulipsandroses
(5,124 posts)"Civility is a 2 way street - You cannot expect someone to treat you with civility when you refuse to acknowledge their humanity "- AS said by Ali Velshi - So yes take a hike Trump and the rest of this POS administration
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)His sycophants followed his lead and declared that the 2018 Trump Child Abductions are moral.
bigbrother05
(5,995 posts)Given the media frenzy directed at Janet Reno for enforcing a real law and respecting the rights of all sides of the families involved, Sessions is lucky to not be riding a rail right now.
Of course, it's the Dems that are going low by calling out the venality of this maladministration.
And yes, the government is abducting the refugee children.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)backtoblue
(11,343 posts)ck4829
(35,070 posts)Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)mcar
(42,307 posts)usaf-vet
(6,181 posts)"hard for you to understand even short sentences"
Cramming the SarahHuck's own words back down her own uncivil mouth.
She said she "is alway polite". NOT SO!
mainer
(12,022 posts)wow, the passion in this piece practically shouts off the page. What a great piece.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)I should have known it was Irish!
marieo1
(1,402 posts)Thank You, Charlie Pierce............for bring civility to this issue. We already know DJT doesn't even know the meaning of this word.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Duppers
(28,120 posts)FSogol
(45,483 posts)Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)to do anything but remain silent is to subject them to heinous persecution...and contest God's will.
You can't use civility and reason on magical thinkers.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,956 posts)asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)So, Sarah, since "I know it is hard for you to understand even short sentences, Ill put it as briefly as I can" - sarah 3 names said that to a WH reporter just last week...
Nuclear Pyle
(51 posts)I don't think Peak Stupidity is anywhere near--yet.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)Cha
(297,196 posts)but as Steve Schmidt said.. she wasn't "..asked to leave a restaurant until they started putting 3 year olds in cages."
Fritz Walter
(4,291 posts)I know Esquire is a top-notch publication, and rightly so.
But I also know that your roots are in the northeast, and your higher education was in the midwest.
Its Take a fucking hike!
Or to get past the censors Take a fookin hike!
suffragette
(12,232 posts)colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)That the phrase one step away from hauling people away in trucks does not seem a stretch...it is terrifying and unique in my lifetime.
Drumpf is who he is but the republicans who accept this are just as culpable.
I hope we get back to some kind of normal ASAP.
MyOwnPeace
(16,926 posts)"but the republicans who accept this are just as culpable."
YES!!!!
THAT is where we must take our battle. McTurtle & Eddie Munster/Ryan are the 2 people that could stop this mess right now - if they wanted to. But they don't want to - they're getting their free ticket to provide for the dreams of the 1% - and their supporters.
WE can stop that - we must GET OUT THE VOTE!!!!!!!!
NOVEMBER is it - we MUST do it!!!!!
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,490 posts)and used "cattle trucks" for the optics.
I'm with you 100% on the normal part. I'm very tired of this insanity and divisiveness.....
duhneece
(4,112 posts)Thats the major difference between trump and the Nazis.
quaker bill
(8,224 posts)is separating families at the border. Everything else going on pales by comparison. Shouting at them in public spaces is nearly an obligation, and simply an effort to attempt to restore civility.
Hassler
(3,377 posts)Care about Sarah Hackalie Slanders feefees?
lambchopp59
(2,809 posts)Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)KPN
(15,643 posts)KY_EnviroGuy
(14,490 posts)Thanks, babylonsister........