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kmla

(4,047 posts)
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 05:29 PM Jun 2018

I'm tired of taking the high road.

In life, and in my the majority of both my personal and professional conversations I typically am of a mindset that “if you can’t say anything nice, don’t say anything”. But I am getting tired of that method of communication.

Why, you ask? What set me off? Frank Bruni’s op/ed in The NY Times basically admonishes those (Samantha Bee, Robert DeNiro, and others) for using coarse and colorful language, stating that it will turn off voters, and detract from our message.

I’m calling bullshit.

I WANT guys on my side (who have a platform that I don’t) talking shit. Honestly, I would prefer that it not be from our party leaders (I would be disappointed if, say Barack Obama or Joe Biden used the term “shitholes” in a public conversation), but I don’t mind at all that left leaning celebrities and pundits take this administration to task and use the same thesaurus that those ugly fuckers on the right use.

Even Trump’s personal lawyer is talking shit about our guy...

Says Rudy Giuliani, “Joe Biden is a moron,” he said, claiming that Biden finished last in his law school class at Syracuse University and had been unable to understand issues Giuliani tried to discuss with him when he was a federal prosecutor and Biden was a Delaware senator. “I’m calling Joe Biden a mentally deficient idiot.”


And we’re supposed to rise above that, and take the high road?

Fuck that bullshit. I’m tired of taking the high road.
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I'm tired of taking the high road. (Original Post) kmla Jun 2018 OP
Rudy doesn't like reverse cowgirl because you never turn your back on family. IADEMO2004 Jun 2018 #1
I understand what you Snackshack Jun 2018 #2
Thanks. Agree with you. kmla Jun 2018 #5
I'm with you 100%. Paladin Jun 2018 #3
O ye'll take the high road and I'll take the low road / And I'll be in Scotland afore ye TheBlackAdder Jun 2018 #4

IADEMO2004

(5,554 posts)
1. Rudy doesn't like reverse cowgirl because you never turn your back on family.
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 05:47 PM
Jun 2018

Too harsh?

James Carville & Paul Begala style attack team. Immediate response team.

IMDB Qoutes

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075029/quotes

Josey Wales: Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean. I mean plumb, mad-dog mean. 'Cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live nor win. That's just the way it is.

Snackshack

(2,541 posts)
2. I understand what you
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 05:56 PM
Jun 2018

Are saying. I would also like to see strong pushback on what is being said and done by trump and co. Also as you say not done by the top echelon of the party (President Obama, Vice President Biden) but by the Minority Leaders, Sen. Schumer, Rep. Pelosi and their members. I would really like to see pundits like Wallace, Hayes, Melber, Cooper, Todd, Mathews etc start calling out the BS.

Having said that there are any number of ways to call out the lies and disinformation without getting personal. It can be done in a strong, profession and critical way. Personal attacks do nothing but play into the hands of the right and comes across as petty.

IMO Kieth Olbermann was fantastic at doing this. His “Worst Person in the World” segments were a nightly master class at pointing out the deficiencies of individuals and the flaws in their policies and the implementation of those policies. Like I said just my opinion.

kmla

(4,047 posts)
5. Thanks. Agree with you.
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 06:50 PM
Jun 2018

Only get personal if they do.

Then when that happens, hit them with a sack full of poop. That’s a tactic they understand.

Paladin

(28,254 posts)
3. I'm with you 100%.
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 06:02 PM
Jun 2018

Things have gotten way too dangerous for Democrats to adhere to good conduct rules that the Republicans discarded, decades ago. Let's go after them---on their level. We can clean up and talk in idealistic platitudes, later.

TheBlackAdder

(28,189 posts)
4. O ye'll take the high road and I'll take the low road / And I'll be in Scotland afore ye
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 06:33 PM
Jun 2018

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Those who take the high road get there last.

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