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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe police refuse to name the Indiana student who shot two people today..Why?
Who are the police protecting. So what if he is 12 or 13. He tried to kill people. He and his family lost their special privilege of his being a kid and a student, when he tried to kill people. People in the area know who he is as do his fellow students. So what is the big deal? Maybe I am being insensitive, but who is he? And why is that suburb keeping this asshole a secret? You tell me, please.
rzemanfl
(29,578 posts)Stuart G
(38,454 posts)Trying to kill someone is certainly beyond privacy..isn't it
AncientGeezer
(2,146 posts)GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)And if he is, say 13, then do we want him treated like an adult? At that age he is a child.
RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)My guess is there will be several legal steps before that is determined. This really isn't a new thing in any jurisdiction. Are you just learning about the American legal system?
I'm curious as to why it matters so much to you. Like if you know his name is David Smith or Joe Jackson how does it effect you in any way? Are you from Indiana and think you know the family?
SCantiGOP
(13,874 posts)It might vary from state to state, but in most it is 16.
mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)I want to know who supplied the guns and when do they go to jail.
Stuart G
(38,454 posts)where he got the guns.
Igel
(35,383 posts)you'd penalize some of his victims for being his victims?
It's like saying that the owner of a stolen car is responsible for any deaths the thief causes. "Something bad was done, I want to find the right people to blame for those actions, but that doesn't mean the perpetrator. I want ________________" where you fill in the predetermined trait of the "truly guilty" party, as opposed to the actually guilty party.
It's the same with suicides. My father bought a Glock and killed himself three months later. He passed the background check; he had a waiting period before he could take possession of the weapon. And he waited. Perhaps he was weighing whether to kill himself or not; perhaps he was considering killing his wife, whose delusions and demented abuse was the trigger for his suicide. Perhaps he was just waiting until his taxes were done and cleaning up the estate and finances would be a cakewalk for me. Dunno. I'm not going to blame Glock or the store, both of which did everything they were supposed to do.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)If you had been negligent in taking ordinary and reasonable precautions from having your car stolen - e.g. you routinely leave it in an area with the keys in the ignition and it is reasonably foreseeable based on the circumstances of that area that doing so would result in someone stealing it - then you can absolutely be held liable.
Someone who does not take what may be determined to be reasonable precautions against their guns being taken and used without their knowledge by a minor, thief or whomever, can certainly be held liable.
In other words, it would be one thing if you kept them locked in an appropriate way, and someone defeated the lock.
It's another thing entirely if you leave them lying around for anyone to grab and go.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,926 posts)If they decide to charge him as an adult they'll probably release his name then. Otherwise the law requires that it not be made public.
Archae
(46,364 posts)They were not named until they were charged as adults.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,926 posts)But yeah, a juvenile's name can't released by the police unless the kid is to be charged as an adult. I assume this kid's name is already generally known in the area but the police won't say, and most media outlets won't either.
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,797 posts)Black juveniles will usually have DAs quickly decide to "try them as adults" and out come their names.
oasis
(49,434 posts)Laffy Kat
(16,391 posts)Children are children. I also don't believe in charging children as adults. Sorry.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)No worries, no doubt internet vigilantes will out him. Have some patience.