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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGiuliani May Have Implicated Trump
May 3, 2018 at 6:57 am EDT By Taegan Goddard
Rick Hasen: If what Giuliani says is true, and if the payments were made to help the campaign and not (just) to help Trump personally, the campaign may be implicated in illegal activity. If Trump knew that Cohen was advancing him a $130,000 loan for campaign purposes, that would have to be reported by the campaign, as would the payments Giuliani said Trump made in installments to Cohen. These would be campaign expenditures that the committee has to keep track of. As Philip Bump notes, if the Trump Organization facilities were used to help make these payments, then there may be additional campaign violations related to the use of corporate resources for campaigns.
Although many campaign finance violations are handled just as fines, as Giuliani seemed to suggest in his Hannity interview Wednesday night, thats not true for willful violations of campaign finance law, especially those implicating the public interest. Those can lead to criminal liability.
New York Times: Mr. Giuliani said that he had spoken with the president before and after his interview on Fox News, and that Mr. Trump and other lawyers on the team were aware of what he would say.
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Giuliani May Have Implicated Trump (Original Post)
DonViejo
May 2018
OP
Now if they can get Guiliani to speak out on the obstruction and collusion charges this could all be
CentralMass
May 2018
#2
Giuliani also said Trump repaid Cohen, at the rate of 35,000 a month, for a year.
dixiegrrrrl
May 2018
#3
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)1. You think?
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)2. Now if they can get Guiliani to speak out on the obstruction and collusion charges this could all be
wrapped up soon
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)3. Giuliani also said Trump repaid Cohen, at the rate of 35,000 a month, for a year.
But even 10 months of 35,000 payments would be wildly in excess of the $130 K "loan" number.
Giuliani told BuzzFeed News that Trump agreed to pay Cohen $35,000 a month out of his personal funds over the course of a year-long period following the election.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/chrisgeidner/rudy-giuliani-says-trump-repaid-michael-cohen-for-the?utm_term=.jhpVezmP2#.wbBnqabmv
Brother Buzz
(36,434 posts)5. I read that as a salary, not a repayment
The orange anus is trying to distance Cohen entirely from the campaign
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)9. This is the section of Buzz feed that I saw a bit ago.
It clearly was a payment to reimburse expenses, Giuliani said adding the caveat, Im almost certain that there wasnt an itemized bill.
In a conversation with BuzzFeed News, Giuliani later said that Cohen, Trump's longtime personal lawyer, had complained to some people after the 2016 election that hed not been fully paid by Trump. At some point Giuliani said he did not know when or where specifically Cohen met with Trump and told him of his complaint. Giuliani said that Trump told Cohen, Well cover your expenses, and agreed to pay him $35,000 a month out of his personal funds over the course of a year-long period that began in the first few months of 2017 and has since ended.
Brother Buzz
(36,434 posts)10. I see where you're coming from
but it still looks to me like Cohen is being reimbursed for ALL of his campaign work....off the books.
duforsure
(11,885 posts)4. Remeber also
Cohen took out a loan for this payment, and why would he do that if he was going to get repaid? He told friends he wasn't repaid too. This is another very , very poor attempt to help trump now, and if anything has increased the problems against trump, and guiliani. Stupid , stupid move . We'll soon discover more and they'll change their story , again.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)6. I'm watching the fox clip via Buzzfeed.
It is so obvious Rudy is spinning a tale. At one point he folds his arms over his chest..very telling gesture.
Then he says Cohen was only doing what he--Rudy-- does "for my clients" meaning not bothering to tell clients of money he pays on their behalf.
Which is not legal lawyer practice, I heard.
winstars
(4,220 posts)7. tRump ALWAYS has his arms folded, we know he's ALWAYS lying like a rug!!!
Orsino
(37,428 posts)8. He's one of the few people who could have made Trump look bad...
...just by showing up.
His hiring implicates both of them.
GeorgeGist
(25,321 posts)11. Nice work, Sherlock