I support Joy-Ann Reid

[mia]

I've known her personally since 2003 and will attest to her character. The fact that her cyber security experts are suggesting the possibility of altered blog posts is a revelation.

Can historical digital archives be hacked?

Link to tweet

[dalton99a]

1. Wikileaks is pushing this 'scandal' hard

[mia]

7. Is this another Russian hackit job?

Haven't read about the wikileaks collusion yet.

[uponit7771]

20. They're scared of Reid

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

42. That I believe.

[workinclasszero]

78. Shit

Russia attacks and the JPR types take up the cause!

I guess it's a bonus for those assholes that she is a PoC and an intelligent woman!

[Cha]

129. wiwileaks isn't the only ones pushing this bogus

scandal.. if you know who I mean.

[dalton99a]

130. Yep.

[Demsrule86]

131. And that should tell us that the Russians are behind this.

[treestar]

156. And they could hack.

[mia]

157. That's for sure.

[WhiteTara]

2. While people's understanding does evolve, this also

sounds like a good way to silence a powerful black woman who reaches millions.

Beware the trolls, they're under every bridge.

[mia]

8. Agree with you on both points

and those who value her opinions will continue to support her.

[dsc]

26. that only works when she admits the posts are hers

as she did with the first batch. Here, if she is lying and she hasn't been hacked she should be fired, period.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

45. Yeah, the potential lying part is what worries me; just hope Joy is being honest about the hacking.

I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt, until convinced otherwise.

[mcar]

3. Seems like it is being pushed by Greenwald, Breitbart, and ilk

[mia]

9. Their attempt to overtake the negative press about Hannity?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

49. That's certainly a good possibility... still hope Joy's claim about getting hacked is confirmed.

[LexVegas]

11. Supporters of a certain non-Democrat too. nt

[mia]

14. They all have one goal in mind -

bringing down the Democratic Party.

[R B Garr]

56. Yes, especially them. It is so obvious. nt

[emulatorloo]

27. Greenwald doesnt like anyone who takes the fact of Russian interference in 2016 seriously.

[HipChick]

4. OPM was hacked...anything can be hacked

[Zoonart]

5. I support Joy also.

None of this rises to the level of homophobic rhetoric. Exposing the hypocrisy of closeted gay folk that work in the government at diametric opposition of the support for laws protecting the rights of LGBT citizenry are often trolled in similar ways by the gay community.

This is scalp hunting and the bots are piling on because they see a drop of blood in the water.

[liberal from boston]

15. I support Joy

Thank You Zoonart--you eloquently put into words my thoughts.

[Zoonart]

17. My pleasure.

[BobTheSubgenius]

48. Ours, too!

At least, mine.

[dsc]

28. the statements she claims were hacks most certainly are homophobic

being grossed out by men kissing, accusing gays of targeting teens, the stuff about Brokeback Mountain. All of that is blatantly homophobic.

[Zoonart]

41. I had not seen those particular quotes.

While I don't pretend to know what is in. Joy's heart; I do think that these remarks are beneath her intellect and I find them suspect.

[skylucy]

6. Thank you for posting this!

[LexVegas]

10. Me too! nt

[bigtree]

12. I support Joy, also

...but I'm going to concern myself more with folks who are legitimately hurt by the remarks (hers, or not) that were reported.

I'm fairly certain she'll keep those first and foremost in her consideration, as well.

I've seen an outpouring of support from her peers, so I think we can step down a bit from defending her and maybe give a renewed ear to the issues highlighted, like equality and sexual orientation.

[Gothmog]

13. I also support Joy Reid

[Blue_Tires]

16. Greenwald is already probing Nichols background...

[irisblue]

19. Which Nichols?edit

Her computer guy security Jonathan Nichols?

[Malikshah]

18. I support her as well. 100%

Any arguments that have been made against her, any equivocations, etc. are by-the-playbook retreads from the past.

To those who wish to hem and haw, go form your own circular firing squad and have at it.

[Adrahil]

21. Unless she is proven to have lied about this...

I also support her.

Her opposition to Trump and her outspoken criticism of Bernie Sanders has made some powerful enemies.

[comradebillyboy]

22. Certain groups have been trying to get Joy Reid fired for quite some time now.

The attacks on Joy Reid are not new. The groups and individuals attacking Joy don't really care about anybody's human rights, IMHO, but are more motivated by personal or political animus towards her personally. It's a result of her growing influence in the political arena that she draws such hostility.

[mia]

139. No doubt that you are correct.

When it comes to human rights, pretenders to the Democratic Party are the worst and the most disappointing.

[CakeGrrl]

23. Joy Reid, Nancy Pelosi - the GOP hate them and want them gone.

Hopefully Democrats won't fall for the trap of being co-opted into agreeing with them.

[poboy2]

24. You know what they say...

Hope in one hand, deficate in the other.
See which fills up first.

Obviously I am not going to make the 'going high' cut with that remark.

Doomed. We are all doomed.

[dajoki]

25. So do I

[stonecutter357]

29. K&R

[all american girl]

30. I support Joy also

It's the same cast of characters that are going after her, so it's suspect to me...This is about trying to shut down a strong black woman, and we must not have that.

[Azathoth]

31. Honest question for her defenders: what exactly is her story?

She's already apologized for stuff that was dug up last year from her blog. I assume that means she wrote those things. Now she's claiming that newly dug up stuff from the same blog was hacked (although she's not actually saying which posts are not hers).

So her claim is that she wrote some homophobic stuff around 2007-08, but someone also hacked her blog even earlier and inserted additional anti-gay stuff in it, and then just left it there to be discovered 12 years later? And this was all done back before she was a nationally-known name?

Doesn't that sound just a little fishy?

[Hassin Bin Sober]

32. Yep.

[NCTraveler]

34. I think it sounds just as fishy...

That people scoured here content and are just now finding more.

I don't disagree with you. Yet I also find what RT, Brietbart, and Glenn Greenwald started promoting to be fishy.

Sometimes that is whey you sit back and wait.

[Azathoth]

35. I've despised Greenwald longer than most

But just because people have an obvious agenda for running with a story doesn't mean the story is by definition false.

I'm sincerely curious what Reid's exact position is. I hate it when people who get accused of something put out cryptic explanations that only make things more confusing.

[NCTraveler]

37. Nor does it make it true.

"But just because people have an obvious agenda for running with a story doesn't mean the story is by definition false."

[Azathoth]

43. No one's claiming it's true because of who's reporting it

But some people are suggesting the opposite.

[NCTraveler]

47. Because it's fishy.

As I said, this is a good one to wait on. We are clearly seeing a push from extremely shady sources.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

151. I'm right there with you... seems it's worth waiting for the facts to fully come out.

Here's hoping that the truth is on Joy's side.

[Gothmog]

62. The lynching of Joy Ann Reid by the Bernie left

The attacks on Joy Reid by certain groups are sad https://medium.com/@investigator_21314/the-lynching-of-joy-ann-reid-by-the-bernie-left-c7de005a19fb

For almost a year now, a very vocal segment of Bernie Sanders supporters have harassed and stalked black activists, journalists and contributors on Twitter and other social media sites. Behind this campaign was the fact that a lot of black voters didn’t vote for Bernie, which was met with incredible anger by a part of the Bernie left.

Instead of analyzing why POC were critical of Bernie, or why Bernie refused to campaign among POC, they started to harass and intimidate black Twitter users.

The list of victims to this aggressive crowd of Bernie supporters is long by now: Joy Ann Reid, Donna Brazile, Jehmu Greene, Neera Tanden, Kamala Harris, Maxine Waters, Yamiche Alcindor, Zerlina Maxwell, and less known Twitter users: Angry Black Lady (Imani Gandy), T_FisherKing, Mr Dane/ Mr Weeks, Sir James, Ange_Amene, Bravenak and many, many more.

What these people have in common is that

A: they’re POC,

B: they’re at times very critical of Bernie Sanders.

This in itself is enough for ongoing extreme harassment, stalking, threats, intimidation and worse.

[Azathoth]

65. OK. Back to my original question, what is Reid's exact position?

[Gothmog]

66. Joy Reid does not worship Sanders and so sanders supporters must destroy her

[Azathoth]

67. So Sanders supporters traveled back in time and made her post homophobic stuff?

And also "hacked" her blog?

This is getting confusing.

[Gothmog]

97. So Sanders supporters are angels?

I was a vetted Clinton delegate to the national convention. I was a Clinton delegate and I know I was vetted. The only vetting that I saw was that the Sanders campaign removed one duly elected sanders delegate because that delegate would not say that he hated Hillary Clinton. This occurred at the Texas Democratic Convention but this delegate was allowed to attend as a guest due to the poor treatment of this young man by the Sanders campaign.

I do not think that this was isolated incident. There was a coordinated plan to attack Congressman John Lewis and the delegates who led this plan were evidently leaders in the Sanders delegation and they were proud of these attacks

For example, the idiots on JPR are very proud of this stunt https://jackpineradicals.com/boards/topic/hey-john-lewis-karmas-a-mf-aint-it/

I saw other incidents including having a group of Sanders delegates scream obscenities at my daughter and called her the C-Word.

This conduct is evidently acceptable for "progressives". We are seeing similar conduct in the attacks on Joy Reid and others

[Azathoth]

101. You do realize this thread is about Reid's blog posts, not Sanders supporters?

Sanders supporters have nothing to do with what Reid did or did not write on her blog, nor could they have hacked her website back in 2006.

[Gothmog]

103. You are the one who thinks that sanders supporters would not engage in this conduct

I have seen how sanders supporters react first hand at the National Convention. After that experience, the article cited above is very believable

[Gothmog]

116. Here are some facts for you to ignore or not be able to understand

Link to tweet

[Azathoth]

118. So you're saying her blog wasn't hacked, it's just altered screenshots?

Screenshots that we can't verify because Reid inserted code to purge her blog from the archive?

[Gothmog]

122. Read the material posted-the site was hacked

Link to tweet

[Azathoth]

124. So the site was hacked in 2006, and then some else took screenshots in 2018 and altered them?

You people are just going round and round.

[Gothmog]

127. I trust Joan Walsh here

I trust Joan Walsh and I found these tweets to be helpful

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[Cha]

132. Thank you for Joan Walsh on Joy Reid, Goth..

Link to tweet

[Demsrule86]

136. The posts could have been made recently...the fact there were no replies leads me to believe this is

case and it would have been noticed...recent attempt to destroy Joy by planting it in archives.

[Demsrule86]

137. You don't have to travel back in time if you know what you are doing you can plant all sorts of

things on a computer including in archives...have you ever visited hacker sites or the Dark Web?

[BeyondGeography]

77. And Sanders opponents must defend her

[uponit7771]

80. No, she's claiming archive.org has some archives that aren't 100% from her site and

... may have been altered relative what was wrote on her site.

[Azathoth]

83. From her statement: "At no time has Ms. Reid claimed that the Wayback machine was hacked"

So if the Wayback Machine wasn't hacked, then what it archived on her site must have been hacked, yes?

[uponit7771]

106. That's right, she's not claiming it but her security experts are ... its in the last paragraph

[Azathoth]

109. So she isn't claiming something but her experts are?

She disagrees with her experts? You're being incoherent.

[uponit7771]

113. Overt logical fallacy noted, she hasn't made a statement on a hack or not a hack so far...

... but her security experts were made aware of a breach of TWBM.

I've seen no retraction of this by those experts

Either way

I'm looking at the ghosting of text in the so called post ... bout all the evidence one needs.

All the haters et al can argue over peoples lying eyes, I don't do gas lighting well

[Demsrule86]

135. No...it was probably hacked more recently and planted in the archives...it is quite doable.

I would say after 2016.

[NCTraveler]

33. The top three google news stories on this yesterday were.

Brietbart, RT, and Glenn Greenwald.

Her previous comments that we have all seen were unacceptable. She apologized for them with understanding. GLAD had given her an honor that was just rescinded. It was rescinded for past comments. That shows how they felt about her more recent actions in this area.

I will wait to see this unfold.

[LexVegas]

38. Being pushed hard by supporters of a certain non-Dem....wonder why?

[Eliot Rosewater]

53. IT is clear what is going on here. And the ATTACK of this GREAT liberal journalist is allowed

here as well as those other sites you mention.

Nah, I cant take that. I wont.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

110. And now its NYT, Newsweek, NY Post, NY Daily news, slate, Huffington, CNN, Washington Post

And the list goes on

[peggysue2]

128. And that . . .

pretty much says it all. Who benefits from these attacks? That should always be the question when a particular journalist/pundit is selected for shredding.

I answered a similar OP in another thread. But Brietbart, RT and Greenwald pushing this?

Please! That trinity does not serve anyone's interest but their own.

Who benefits? I think we have the answer.

[Leith]

36. I Stand with Joy

Just before I saw this thread, I posted this in another one:

This Is How We Can Tell When One of Our Own Is Being Effective

People come out to tear said person down. Remember the movie Ghost? Demons would come crawling out of the shadows when a bad person died and carry the person's soul away. This thread reminds me of this.

I'm not the same person I was a decade ago and it would be vicious and dishonest to drag out things I said at the time and attack me with them. Joy is an excellent commentator, one of the best. Disparaging her like this is the lowest of the low. Somebody is feeding this filth into the narrative and we are obeying like our noserings got yanked.

I stand with Joy.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=10537273

[mia]

46. Thank you!

Glad to see your post.

[Bonx]

69. Me too. just because she may have written that stuff

doesn't mean she actually wrote it. hackers can change things easily.

[uponit7771]

119. +1, there's no doubt ghosting around some of the text I saw but now its gone from DU

[LanternWaste]

39. I come at this from a weird place. I don't have cable, and haven't watched cable

I come at this from a weird place. I don't have cable, and haven't watched cable news in about ten years (it's my small budget, not some self-validating "I'm too clever/good/insightful for mainstream media" crap); so the personalities and on-air talent are foreign to me, as is the internecine warfare of cable channel vs. cable channel. Often, the targets of the criticisms are at best, vague and diaphanous to me.

What is striking though, is the consistency of where the criticism, veiled behind righteous indignation and sprinkled with self-validating biases, both in the world in general and on DU as well, is coming from.

There's a little trick we often see at play whether we realize it as such or not: a consistent habit of advertising the worst of women and minorities through OPs or news stories, etc., contrasted with the same habit by the same as applied to advertising the best of law enforcement and the status quo.

Whether it's conscious or not (I think it is), the pattern of who/what/where the criticisms come from are almost absolute in consistency. Seeing those red flags-- from where and from whom the passive-aggressive criticisms of Reid are coming from kinda confirms that.

[mia]

147. "Seeing those red flags-- from where and from whom the passive-aggressive criticisms of Reid

are coming from kinda confirms that."

Well said. I know here you're coming from. I don't have cable news either. I listen to a lot of you tube videos though. Here's a radio program that was recommended today by someone on DU. I'm listening to it now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=392&v=ioBhGmfYDKo

[R B Garr]

40. I support her, too. Bernie's groups must all be afraid of her,

and anything Greenwald puts his hands on is a mole job. We are on to all their games by now.

[MFM008]

44. See;

What they did to Al Franken
What they did to US election
.............

[democratisphere]

50. The Russians are amping up their attacks.

It will only get much worse because nothing has been done to stop it. Nothing!

[Azathoth]

51. The Russians hacked Reid back in 2007?

[democratisphere]

52. I suggest you READ all of the fine print in the OP and get back to me!

[Azathoth]

54. lol, I already did. Did you?

[QC]

57. They have a secret ally!

?itok=kUIUdiME

[mia]

58. Where does it say that the Reid Report was hacked in 2007?

My understanding is December 2017, or sometime after the initial report and after her apology. Where is the 2007 retort coming from? I've seen it elsewhere, and it makes me wonder. The posts in question, which she acknowledged, were posted between 2007 and 2009.

[Azathoth]

59. The Wayback Machine archived her site from back around 2006

My understanding is that Reid is not claiming the Wayback Machine itself was hacked. That means her site must have been hacked back when the Wayback Machine archived it.

[uponit7771]

82. No, archive.org

[Azathoth]

85. From the statement: "At no time has Ms. Reid claimed that the Wayback machine was hacked"

[uponit7771]

86. Correct, it was archive.org that was "breached" and they're saying the post on archive.org are

... not hers.

Also, looks like the altered post on archive.org was at the same time as the "breach" of archive.org

Bout that simple

[Azathoth]

87. lol, archive.org IS the Wayback Machine

Jesus, people.

[uponit7771]

90. Then my statement holds true still, Reid wasn't hacked archive.org (aka TWBM) was

[Azathoth]

92. But she is explicitly not saying that

Unless you are claiming something that she isn't.

[uponit7771]

94. Her Cyber security experts are saying they were made away that TWBM was "breached"

... and claiming that her old site "Reid Report" was hacked too.

[Azathoth]

95. And they are also saying the two supposed breaches are unrelated

Besides, why would you breach both the archive AND the website? Once you've breached the website, the hacked stuff will eventually get archived anyway.

[uponit7771]

98. Because the archived stuff can refute the hacked stuff unless both the archived and hacked stuff

... are changed then archived.

She could have an offsite copy of her blog and that's the evidence they can present, looks like they're sticking to the claim of altered blog post.

Either way, I look at the pages posted on another thread and there's no doubt ghosting around the text.

Typical winger shit

[Azathoth]

102. So you're claiming something even her security expert isn't claiming nt

[uponit7771]

104. No, just responding to your question. And her security experts have claimed a breach of

... TWBM, its in the last paragraph of their statement

[Hassin Bin Sober]

105. And when the Way Back people said there was absolutely no evidence of a breach/hack Reids people...

.... backed off, switched gears, and stated they don’t believe the Way Back was hacked.

They are now claiming the blog was hacked.

That can’t be. There are contemporaneous time stamps in several versions of the archive showing 2006


https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/04/experts-question-joy-reids-claim-of-being-hacked.html

A Tuesday post on the Wayback Machine’s blog said the site’s operators looked into Reid’s allegations but found that “nothing to indicate tampering or hacking” had taken place. (The post also noted that material from Reid’s blog has been automatically removed even from the Wayback Machine’s archives via a “robots.txt exclusion request,” a subject that you can read more about here.)

Tuesday night, Jonathan Nichols—an “independent security consultant” employed by Reid—released a statement responding to the Wayback Machine post and other coverage. Nichols asserted that the alleged hacking may not have taken place via the Wayback Machine but via saboteurs who logged into Reid’s actual blog itself using login information that was obtained on the “dark web.” As observers including BuzzFeed tech/politics reporter Joe Bernstein have noted, however, the disputed posts were independently archived years ago, seemingly suggesting that whoever framed Reid would have had to have done so when she was still a blogger and Florida radio host who was unknown at the national level:

[uponit7771]

111. They aren't "now" saying her blog was hacked they said such in the first sentence.

... They're claiming her blog was hacked and some post altered.

Looking at the post there is ghosting around the text, no doubt.

I don't see them backtracking on TWBM being hacked

[Azathoth]

112. The "ghosting" has nothing to do with the Wayback Machine

That would mean the screenshots from the Wayback Machine were altered after they were retrieved from the archive.

Reid's security "expert" really needs to figure out what his story is.

[uponit7771]

115. Never said it did, you got anything else ? I'm not here to argue just to argue

[Hassin Bin Sober]

121. Here:

They started out with the allegation the way back was altered


The only way it was altered is their attempt to scrub it

http://blog.archive.org/2018/04/24/addressing-recent-claims-of-manipulated-blog-posts-in-the-wayback-machine/

This past December, Reid’s lawyers contacted us, asking to have archives of the blog (blog.reidreport.com) taken down, stating that “fraudulent” posts were “inserted into legitimate content” in our archives of the blog. Her attorneys stated that they didn’t know if the alleged insertion happened on the original site or with our archives (the point at which the manipulation is to have occurred, according to Reid, is still unclear to us).




At some point after our correspondence, a robots.txt exclusion request specific to the Wayback Machine was placed on the live blog. That request was automatically recognized and processed by the Wayback Machine and the blog archives were excluded, unbeknownst to us (the process is fully automated). The robots.txt exclusion from the web archive remains automatically in effect due to the presence of the request on the live blog. Also, the blog URL which previously pointed to an msnbc.com page now points to a generic parked page.

[uponit7771]

125. I don't see an inconsistency here, the experts are saying fraudulent post were inserted

... they're not caring were the insertion was made in the end.

They're not just "now" saying her blog was hacked seeing the text you didn't highlight

Her attorneys stated that they didn’t know if the alleged insertion happened on the original site or with our archives

Leaves open her site could've been hacked or TWBM could've been hacked

In the end they feel what was posted on TWBM isn't true to her blog no matter where the hack started or ended.

[treestar]

158. Why not?

They could only hack in 2016?

[uponit7771]

81. +1

[RKP5637]

55. I support her!!! n/t

[TheBlackAdder]

60. The Internet Archive doesn't use WORM drives or media?

[Gothmog]

61. Joy Reid will stay on air at MSNBC amid outcry over alleged anti-gay posts

This is good news https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/25/joy-reid-anti-gay-posts-550213

Popular MSNBC host Joy Reid will remain on the air amid a controversy over what appear to be old posts expressing anti-gay views on her now-defunct personal blog, an NBC spokesperson said.

Reid says her blog was hacked to include the posts, which are dated in the mid- to late-2000s and resurfaced last week when Twitter user @Jamie_Maz and Mediaite highlighted them.


The NBC spokesperson, who declined to be named, said that Reid has referred the matter to law enforcement and that the network would wait for that process to play out before taking any action.

NBC representatives declined to say whether the network itself will investigate the posts. Reid did not reply immediately to a request for comment. Neither did the FBI, though it does not typically confirm or deny investigations.

Reid hosts a two-hour show on MSNBC on Saturday and Sunday mornings, though her status as a hero to the left has given her a larger profile. The alleged remarks, however, have prompted fierce backlash. PFLAG National, an LGBT advocacy group, rescinded Reid’s Straight for Equality in Media award on Tuesday.

[UCmeNdc]

70. These guys are Russian propagandist

It is another Russian ops. A Cyber warfare attack.

[mia]

76. Thanks for the update.

Glad that NBC isn't rushing to judgment.

[Cha]

134. Glad Joy Remains on the Air, Goth.. Thank you!

Link to tweet

This is terrible situation to be in.. poor Joy. but, she's strong.. hope they get to the bottom of it.

[samir.g]

63. The lynching of Joy Ann Reid by the Bernie left

https://medium.com/@investigator_21314/the-lynching-of-joy-ann-reid-by-the-bernie-left-c7de005a19fb

For almost a year now, a very vocal segment of Bernie Sanders supporters have harassed and stalked black activists, journalists and contributors on Twitter and other social media sites. Behind this campaign was the fact that a lot of black voters didn’t vote for Bernie, which was met with incredible anger by a part of the Bernie left.

[UCmeNdc]

71. This is a Russian propaganda attack,

[uponit7771]

100. If Wikileaks is anyway involved it sure the hell is

[ehrnst]

64. The haters are out in force

even right here on DU.

[leftynyc]

74. I sure hope you aren't

tagging all of us simply wanting the TRUTH as haters. Got anything to say about this?:

https://www.mediaite.com/online/joy-reids-cyber-security-expert-bragged-about-affiliations-with-neo-nazis/

[ehrnst]

75. Not sure what your post has to do with me, or what the link you shared

has to do with this thread. Perhaps you didn't read the OP?

However, I certainly get called a hater any time I share truth in the form of data that does anything other than support the statements a junior Senator from Vermont.

And I think Joy, and her motives, are way more credible than wikileaks at this point.

[Vinca]

68. I support her. If she did say it, it's clear her opinion has changed.

As a side note, I can't believe the number of posts on this site today that are just fighting amongst ourselves. Is it being orchestrated or are we really this divided? I'm getting a little worried about November.

[uponit7771]

84. IKR !?!?! If she held them then she doesn't hold them now, sounds wingerish right off the bat

[Vinca]

88. Obama evolved on gay marriage. Aren't people allowed to change?

Ed Schultz has suddenly become a Russian-loving, Trump humper. That doesn't mean I still like Ed because he was once a Bernie-loving leftie. People change. Take them for what they are today.

[uponit7771]

93. THIS !!!! and the fact there's nothing about her character that says she "phobe" about anything

... right now.

She must be making some serious waves somewhere

[Dawson Leery]

72. Anything pushed by Wikileaks/Assange must be taken as false.

If there is a way to shut down Wikileaks, it must be done.

[uponit7771]

96. +1, if they say water is wet then check anyway

[mulsh]

73. I, too , support Ms. Reid. People change opinions when the facts change. If these posts turn

out to be legit they certainly do not reflect any current attitude Ms. Reid espouses. Which indicates she has the ability to reason and change her opinion when facts do not support it. Admirable qualities compared to rigid toeing the line.

If they turn out to be yet an other dirty trick by political operatives I'll add them to that pile.

One thing I'm amazed at is the capacity of some people who assume the worst, never forgive any transgression and permanently condemn the accused.

I would like to read the posts in question. I can't find them but perhaps a more clever person can post a link.

[SidDithers]

79. DU rec...nt

Sid

[Scurrilous]

89. K&R

[TheSmarterDog]

91. "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."

I think this is part of Stage 3.

[The Wizard]

99. Typical feigned Repubic outrage.

The acts and words of hypocrites only work on idiots and the anti American cult known as the Pox News audience. Pox and hate radio will be pushing this to silence a fearless black woman with a powerful voice and intellect. Normal people pay no attention to the Pox / GOP / Russian propaganda.

[mia]

154. Well said.

Thank you.

[sheshe2]

107. Thank you for your Op, Mia.

I support Joy as well.

[Mike Nelson]

108. Me, too...

...I recall the earlier problem. She apologized. This seems like an attempt to "take her down" (similar to the attacks on Al Franken). People change and I trust Joy Reid would not make these statements, today. I've changed, too, over the years!

[The Wizard]

114. Is there any of us who've said something in the past

that no longer applies today? What happened to evolution in the eyes of the enlightened liberal community?

[uponit7771]

117. +1, Looks like its only certain types of folks evolution will be accepted.

[mia]

120. More than likely, most of us have evolved once we acknowledge our failures.

I know that I have.

[uponit7771]

126. +1, and her current record speaks louder than what ever was in the past

[Pathwalker]

123. I support Joy, who joins the growing list of MSNBC women

being targeted. Too many now to be coincidental.

[spanone]

133. K&R...

[Cha]

138. These newly "uncovered" posts have zero comments which is very unusual for her columns.

Link to tweet

[dalton99a]

143. Quite telling

[Cha]

148. It is strange.. here's a tweet I just saw from Imani Gandy

regarding greenwald.

Link to tweet

[mia]

149. "This effort to destroy her career is as transparent as it is sad."

So true.

[Gothmog]

140. The Joy Reid Saga: The Wayback Machine cannot guarantee authenticity

The wayback machine does not guarantee anything https://burningbird.net/the-joy-reid-saga-the-wayback-machine-cannot-guarantee-authenticity/#.WuDw69w6PTy.twitter

The same cannot be said for the actual Wayback Machine archives.

The Wayback Machine is an invaluable historical record of the web. Through it, I’ve been able to recover past writings lost because of all the many changes I’ve made to my web site. It’s a wonderful way of exploring the web’s history.

However, the Wayback Machine is not, and never has been, a definitive source of the authenticity of what it captures on the web. It has access to a web page at a specific location at a specific time…but no special privilege that allows it to determine the authenticity of the author of the content in the page.

As noted by Chris Butler at the Internet Archives, home organization for the Wayback Machine:

When we reviewed the archives, we found nothing to indicate tampering or hacking of the Wayback Machine versions. At least some of the examples of allegedly fraudulent posts provided to us had been archived at different dates and by different entities.

Pages archived at different dates and by different entities... This statement is key to understanding the difference between Wayback Machine’s archival functionality as separate from the media’s assumption of Wayback Machine as Super Authenticator, able to leap tall metadata with a single bound!

[mia]

144. Important point.

Thank you.

[TheSmarterDog]

141. kick

[TheSmarterDog]

142. kick

[Progressive dog]

145. I support Joy Reid too

nt

[tavernier]

146. Hand raised.

[oxymoron]

150. This gay man supports her too. nt

[lunamagica]

152. I'm with her

[Sugarcoated]

153. Joy roooocks!

[oasis]

155. ImWithHerII. Joy to the World.

[Gothmog]

159. From Malcom Nance

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[mia]

161. Thank you for the update. n/t

[Gothmog]

160. From Prof. Tribe

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