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sheshe2

(83,748 posts)
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 09:20 PM Mar 2018

Despite Terrorizing Black People, the Serial-Killing Suicide Bomber Was Not a Terrorist Because, Wel

Despite Terrorizing Black People, the Serial-Killing Suicide Bomber Was Not a Terrorist Because, Well ... He’s White

Michael Harriot
Today 11:47am

The words are back.

You know which words I’m talking about.
The politically correct nouns, verbs and adjectives used to shield their sayers and writers from criticism. The ones that tiptoe along the protective, precipitously thin fence of caucasity to whitesplain any act committed by an Anglo-Saxon Protestant who claps on the one and three.

The white words.

As we unpack the reasons that 23-year-old Mark Anthony Conditt took away the safe space from b̶l̶a̶c̶k̶ people of color in Austin, Texas, we must admonish ourselves not to jump to conclusions. It is too early to call him evil. Maybe he was “deeply troubled” like Parkland, Fla., m̶a̶s̶s̶ ̶m̶u̶r̶d̶e̶r̶e̶r̶ ̶ “broken child” Nikolas Cruz. Perhaps Conditt was like Kenneth Gleason, the “clean-cut American kid” suspected of the l̶y̶n̶c̶h̶i̶n̶g̶s̶ racially motivated murders in Baton Rouge, La.

And for God’s sake, don’t call him a terrorist.

By definition, a terrorist can’t be white. Now, some may stupidly try to apply logic and reason to the situation by pointing out that the word “terrorist” is defined as “a person who terrorizes and frightens others,” but again, Mark Anthony Conditt is white. Logic doesn’t apply here. There is an unwritten rule that all Caucasian children are endowed at birth with the assumption of pure innocence until someone proves otherwise.

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The black, Hispanic and Muslim ones are automatically assumed to be dangerous thugs or terrorists. The white ones are afforded the privilege of ... well, instead of my opinion, let’s allow the New York Times, the heralded bastion of journalism, to explain it in two tweets:







More: https://www.theroot.com/despite-terrorizing-black-people-the-serial-killing-su-1823988666

As simple as black and white.

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Despite Terrorizing Black People, the Serial-Killing Suicide Bomber Was Not a Terrorist Because, Wel (Original Post) sheshe2 Mar 2018 OP
The NYT is garbage. Fuck them. John Fante Mar 2018 #1
He was a mass murderer created by white supremacist Christian survivalist Farmer-Rick Mar 2018 #2
He's a Christian, too. Mariana Mar 2018 #3
Post removed Post removed Mar 2018 #4
Radical Caucasian terrorist DesertRat Mar 2018 #5
Radical Caucasian terrorist! Eko Mar 2018 #6
Well said! brer cat Mar 2018 #7
The thing I find amazing is that it appears Solomon Mar 2018 #8
I think I saw reports on either CNN or MSNBC that all the victims were blacks. George II Mar 2018 #16
What was the cause his violence was trying to advance? mythology Mar 2018 #9
Motive is a crucial part of the definition of terrorism. sheshe2 Mar 2018 #18
The official definition of terrorism affects if people will be covered by their insurance ehrnst Mar 2018 #10
Thank you for this, ehrnst. sheshe2 Mar 2018 #12
After 9/11, when many insurance companies went broke paying out those claims ehrnst Mar 2018 #15
You posted this word-for-word yesterday. Im not sure why CORRECTLY IDENTIFYING THIS ASSHOLE anneboleyn Mar 2018 #17
A Childrens Treasury Of No Good, Very Bad Austin Bomber Takes Scurrilous Mar 2018 #11
Your post could not make it any clearer, Scurrilous. sheshe2 Mar 2018 #13
That simple malaise Mar 2018 #21
Shameful, but not surprising... Blue_Tires Mar 2018 #14
From the Onion Gothmog Mar 2018 #19
The double standards are frightening malaise Mar 2018 #20
I'm surprised he hasn't been called a "misunderstood youth." Vinca Mar 2018 #22
See the tweet from the NY Times. sheshe2 Mar 2018 #23
Because this.... workinclasszero Mar 2018 #24
This sheshe2 Mar 2018 #25
Exactamundo! nt oasis Mar 2018 #29
For this thread Gothmog Mar 2018 #26
Love Propane Jane. sheshe2 Mar 2018 #27
Why white killers receive more sympathy than black victims: Gothmog Mar 2018 #28

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
1. The NYT is garbage. Fuck them.
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 09:42 PM
Mar 2018

This will be labeled as domestic terrorism by the only source that matters - the FBI.

Farmer-Rick

(10,163 posts)
2. He was a mass murderer created by white supremacist Christian survivalist
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 09:55 PM
Mar 2018

And a member of RIOT, Righteous Invasion Of Truth, that promotes armed invasion, war and desperate behaviors like rioting. They train young adults how to use weapons and act out mock battles.

Yeah they attempt to mask their hate filled encouragement and training in violence with games but then operation rescue, that bombed abortion clinics, gave knitting lessons too. They want you to think they are eldely grandmothers and playful children while they terrorize minorities, GLBT folks and women.

Just because they are white they do not get a pass. If a Black, Hispanic or Muslim group promoted violence and gave weapons training, then one of the group started bombing white people, they would be under investigation by the FBI.

Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Solomon

(12,310 posts)
8. The thing I find amazing is that it appears
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 07:28 AM
Mar 2018

he was targeting blacks folks but not a word from the media about this. I had no clue until I saw pictures of the victims. Even then the media said nothing about it.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
9. What was the cause his violence was trying to advance?
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 07:34 AM
Mar 2018

Motive is a crucial part of the definition of terrorism. He did leave some sort of confession. Did that confession indicate he was doing it to intimidate black people? Sometimes a scumbag is just a scumbag without it being terrorism. Besides, in the case of an already dead single perp, does it really matter what it's termed?

The U.S. Code of Federal Regulations defines terrorism as "the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives

sheshe2

(83,748 posts)
18. Motive is a crucial part of the definition of terrorism.
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 05:34 PM
Mar 2018
Motive is a crucial part of the definition of terrorism. He did leave some sort of confession. Did that confession indicate he was doing it to intimidate black people?

True. But do you find it likely that 100% of dead and 67% of the total victims (dead and injured) were Black, in a city that is 8% Black, 35% Hispanic and 45% white, without there being some level of targeting?


Sometimes a scumbag is just a scumbag without it being terrorism.

Yes. And the ONLY way to determine whether that scumbag was just a scumbag or a racially motivated scumbag terrorist is to be open to the idea, as opposed to be looking for an excuse NOT to find a racially motivated scumbag terrorist.

Besides, in the case of an already dead single perp, does it really matter what it's termed?

Yes. Before we can stop a problem we have to properly define that problem. Or, at least that's the methodology that is we use to solve other problems in the U.S.

The U.S. Code of Federal Regulations defines terrorism as "the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives

It appears that all the boxes are checked here.

1) the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property ... CHECK: the bombs were directed at people and destroyed property.

2) to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof ... CHECK: the victims were/are members of the civilian population

3) in furtherance of political or social objectives ... CHECK: White Supremacy or the maintenance of the white, male hegemonic order
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
10. The official definition of terrorism affects if people will be covered by their insurance
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 08:07 AM
Mar 2018

Many insurance companies require you to add a "terrorism rider" to cover any act that is determined to be "terrorism," as defined by the Treasury Department.

To qualify as a certified act of terrorism, the incident must: (1) be a violent act or an act that is dangerous to human life, property, or infrastructure; (2) cause damage within the United States or other area of U.S. sovereignty (e.g., an U.S. embassy, airplane, ship); (3) be committed as part of an effort to coerce the civilian population of the United States or to influence the policy or affect the conduct of the U.S. government by coercion; and (4) produce property-casualty (P&C) insurance losses in excess of $5 million.


This could be for home or property damage insurance - and cost varies according to location (urban vs rural) and type of business (women's clinic, Mosque, Jewish community center, etc.)

And some medical insurance requires it as well.

This will depend largely on his "confession."

For the sake of those whose property was not covered by a terrorism rider, I hope it isn't. For the sake of public opinion, I hope it is.
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
15. After 9/11, when many insurance companies went broke paying out those claims
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 09:23 AM
Mar 2018

congress passed legislation requiring companies to offer specific terrorism coverage in riders, to shift the premium costs to those most likely to be a target, and allow those who don't think they will be a target to opt out of the higher premium.

That's why I wish the media would not call anything "terrorism" until the motive is determined. Unfortunately, they still do it, based on skin color and religion.

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
17. You posted this word-for-word yesterday. Im not sure why CORRECTLY IDENTIFYING THIS ASSHOLE
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 11:57 AM
Mar 2018

and his actions as terrorism in the media should be something we avoid because someone may not have the correct insurance? That seems like a really odd way to approach this situation. The issue — that the media refuses to define a white male christian bomber as a domestic terrorist — is very important.

sheshe2

(83,748 posts)
27. Love Propane Jane.
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 07:42 PM
Mar 2018

Propane Jane™
@docrocktex26
Translation: he was a White dude so we have to pretend that premeditated fabrication of explosives and terroristic murder by mail are just the sympathetic growing pains of White young adulthood.
https://
twitter.com/twittermoments
/status/976606242033553408


Thanks Gothmog.

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