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Rumor mill, off twitter, rude pundit: (Original Post) jeffreyi Mar 2018 OP
...and in 3 years, Steven Miller is our new president! n/t librechik Mar 2018 #1
Is there any way to..... SergeStorms Mar 2018 #21
Love yer eyeball swapping gif Augiedog Mar 2018 #22
Only the BEST people. dchill Mar 2018 #2
This would not surprise me at all NewJeffCT Mar 2018 #3
Does anyone know the record for the most House seats lost in one election? Bleacher Creature Mar 2018 #4
In 1894, Democrats lost 127 seats marylandblue Mar 2018 #7
Werent they the Republicans back then? lunatica Mar 2018 #14
Yes, the only seats they kept were in the South marylandblue Mar 2018 #18
Well it does make sense...we got the House Report after all which cleared dotard douchey donnie Kirk Lover Mar 2018 #5
A journalist just tweeted that Fox News is reporting almost the same thing except octoberlib Mar 2018 #6
I would not be surprised davekriss Mar 2018 #8
a dictator cornered is as scary as it gets spanone Mar 2018 #9
The nightmare begins-Code Red Alert NewsCenter28 Mar 2018 #10
Nothing should be off the table in response. triron Mar 2018 #27
Agree. jeffreyi Mar 2018 #11
I wonder if the RUMINT is from this article. chowder66 Mar 2018 #12
Wouldn't Pruitt/Trump fireing Mueller be dangerous for Trump? Stuart G Mar 2018 #13
Dangerous how? Laws of the land (SCOTUS, congress)? Or because the people would demand justice? erronis Mar 2018 #16
Lindsay Graham said at one time that would be a mistake, because they'd just... Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #17
Dangerous ? Horizens Mar 2018 #32
Republican on Ali show discussed that. Get rid of Sessions and fire Mueller. Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #15
I take some comfort in the fact that Bill Kristol almost always gets it wrong. nt Gore1FL Mar 2018 #19
There are still the State AGs. SergeStorms Mar 2018 #20
there is a good chance that courts will block trump from doing this getagrip_already Mar 2018 #23
Now that's a nightmare scenario. SergeStorms Mar 2018 #25
whyat would happen though if getagrip_already Mar 2018 #26
I think Pruitt needs to be re-confirmed bigtree Mar 2018 #24
he would, but not for 150 days..... getagrip_already Mar 2018 #28
Not shocked if it happens. IluvPitties Mar 2018 #29
I learned a new word today. Never knew what "rumint" was. shenmue Mar 2018 #30
Yep.. never heard of it. nm Cha Mar 2018 #34
Why a 3-cushion bank shot like this when Trump could just tweet Mueller's been fired? Girard442 Mar 2018 #31
Of all the Trumps cronies with cabinet rank, NCDem47 Mar 2018 #33
I read here that a Legal Expert Cha Mar 2018 #35

SergeStorms

(19,199 posts)
21. Is there any way to.....
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 09:33 PM
Mar 2018

wash my eyes and brain out with soap? You just HAD to say something disgusting like that, didn't you.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
3. This would not surprise me at all
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 06:57 PM
Mar 2018

He probably thinks it will calm down in the 8 months till election day

Bleacher Creature

(11,256 posts)
4. Does anyone know the record for the most House seats lost in one election?
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 06:59 PM
Mar 2018

If this happens that record will be in jeopardy.

 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
5. Well it does make sense...we got the House Report after all which cleared dotard douchey donnie
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 07:10 PM
Mar 2018

so what is the point of this nosy Mueller probe? Fuck you trashbag tRUMP....it ain't gonna work. You can try this move ...but its just gonna make it more OBVI and Congress will reappoint his ass because they are counting ON MUELLER to GET RID OF YOUR BLOATED BIG ASS.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
6. A journalist just tweeted that Fox News is reporting almost the same thing except
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 07:21 PM
Mar 2018

they left out Sessions' firing and replaced it with Kelly getting fired and Mulvaney becoming CoS.

davekriss

(4,616 posts)
8. I would not be surprised
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 07:30 PM
Mar 2018

As lawless as this administration has been, its a pipe dream to think Trump would let Mueller complete his work and challenge his power. I don’t see this happening. My next thought is, what then? 1930s Germany? Our version of the Arab Spring? What?

(I hate this! I want to wake from this nightmare now!!)

NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
10. The nightmare begins-Code Red Alert
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 07:55 PM
Mar 2018

This is huge. Need to be prepared to march. This.Is.It! Time to try to save the republic!

chowder66

(9,067 posts)
12. I wonder if the RUMINT is from this article.
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 08:27 PM
Mar 2018

Snip...

"Perhaps most consequential for Robert Mueller’s investigation, sources said Trump has discussed a plan to fire Attorney General Jeff Sessions. According to two Republicans in regular contact with the White House, there have been talks that Trump could replace Sessions with E.P.A. Administrator Scott Pruitt, who would not be recused from overseeing the Russia probe. Also, as an agency head and former state attorney general, Pruitt would presumably have a good shot at passing a Senate confirmation hearing."

The article goes on about McMaster and Bolton as well.


[link:https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/03/trump-swinging-the-axe-at-tillerson-mcmaster-sessions-jared-and-ivanka|

Stuart G

(38,421 posts)
13. Wouldn't Pruitt/Trump fireing Mueller be dangerous for Trump?
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 08:34 PM
Mar 2018

Just asking the question. It needs to be asked.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
16. Dangerous how? Laws of the land (SCOTUS, congress)? Or because the people would demand justice?
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 08:57 PM
Mar 2018

Where does the military stand in the coup? Have they already been co-opted by plants in the last 10-20 years?

Where are the honorable people that govern?

Good question.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
17. Lindsay Graham said at one time that would be a mistake, because they'd just...
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 08:59 PM
Mar 2018

immediately name Mueller as an Independent Counsel, not under Trump's authority at all.

BUT, he said they'd pass a law restricting the W.H.'s ability to fire Mueller, and they never passed it. So does that mean there was no support for it? I think so. Which means there's no authority for preventing firing Mueller at all, I guess.

We have a situation where the W.H. is corrupt, and a number of Congress people are corrupt loyalists. A coup, sort of. We have only the judiciary to rely on, and many of those are Republican appointees.

 

Horizens

(637 posts)
32. Dangerous ?
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 10:42 PM
Mar 2018

trump's greatest danger is letting Mueller finish his work. I've no doubt that trump is guilty on numerous counts. I think he's going to have Mueller fired one way or another and I think he's going to do it soon. Hope I'm wrong but knowing trump, he'll do whatever tisane his own skin.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
15. Republican on Ali show discussed that. Get rid of Sessions and fire Mueller.
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 08:56 PM
Mar 2018

Sessions shouldn't have recused himself. It's not required, so he could un-recuse himself and get involved in the Mueller investigation. Or someone else could be appointed and get involved or fire Mueller. There's no reason for the Mueller investigation to continue, since it hasn't found any collusion.

SergeStorms

(19,199 posts)
20. There are still the State AGs.
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 09:31 PM
Mar 2018

New York, Virginia and who knows what other States. I'm certain Mueller has his bases covered because he knows how shady and lawless this bunch is. Trump, Trump Jr. are toast in New York. Manafort, Page etc. in Virginia.

Mueller is no dummy. I'm sure there are contingency plans in place for this very reason.

At least I hope so. Now it's time for some Democratic "thoughts and prayers".

getagrip_already

(14,742 posts)
23. there is a good chance that courts will block trump from doing this
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 09:41 PM
Mar 2018

Ari listed a court decision on his show, which prevents a president from firing a special council without cause.

The gop droid he was asking said that it wouldn't be the president if pruit did it. aha. nope, that won't fly.

The real problem isnt pruit firing muehler, it's pruit issuing new guidelines restricting the proobe to specific dates and topics. He also can veto any indictments, and he controls the content and release of any report.

They will basically just cut off the air supply and turn out the lights. Nothing will ever result from the investigation.

Pruit could even write trump a letter of exoneration.

SergeStorms

(19,199 posts)
25. Now that's a nightmare scenario.
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 09:58 PM
Mar 2018

I'm sure Trump and his lawyers have explored every avenue to get his ass out of this trouble. There are still that State investigations and AGs though, so all isn't lost. I know the New York AG would LOVE to nail Trump's ass to the wall.

getagrip_already

(14,742 posts)
26. whyat would happen though if
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 10:01 PM
Mar 2018

pruit kicked off a criminal investigation against the new york ag's?

I'm sure they can cook something up.

getagrip_already

(14,742 posts)
28. he would, but not for 150 days.....
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 10:04 PM
Mar 2018

the federal vacancies act permits the president to appoint a temporary replacement as long as that person has already been confirmed for another similar post.

pruit could do a lot of damage in 5 months.

Girard442

(6,070 posts)
31. Why a 3-cushion bank shot like this when Trump could just tweet Mueller's been fired?
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 10:17 PM
Mar 2018

Send U.S. Marshals to board up Mueller's office and take possession of the files and dare Congress and the courts to do anything about it.

NCDem47

(2,248 posts)
33. Of all the Trumps cronies with cabinet rank,
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 10:53 PM
Mar 2018

I always thought Pruitt was the most asshole-y of the bunch (I can think of a few close seconds). He will have NO qualms taking orders from the President and doing his part to stop everything. And he’ll do it with that smug F You look he always has on his face.

Cha

(297,187 posts)
35. I read here that a Legal Expert
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 06:59 AM
Mar 2018

said a new AG could not oversee Mueller.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210359726

Didn't Sessions leave his Senator's seat in Alabama and we got Doug Jones?

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