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Sat Jul 28, 2012, 07:44 AM

Video of Olympic Ceremony Tribute to Terrorist Victims NBC didn't want you to see:



http://deadspin.com/5929778/heres-the-opening-ceremony-tribute-to-terrorism-victims-nbc-doesnt-want-you-to-see

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Reply Video of Olympic Ceremony Tribute to Terrorist Victims NBC didn't want you to see: (Original post)
Le Taz Hot Jul 2012 OP
Ineeda Jul 2012 #1
FrodosPet Jul 2012 #2
handmade34 Jul 2012 #3
rox63 Jul 2012 #4
Mojorabbit Jul 2012 #27
Fozzledick Jul 2012 #28
rox63 Jul 2012 #30
msanthrope Jul 2012 #5
spanone Jul 2012 #6
ananda Jul 2012 #7
MissNostalgia Jul 2012 #8
Gregorian Jul 2012 #38
allan01 Jul 2012 #9
MADem Jul 2012 #10
JoeyT Jul 2012 #12
MADem Jul 2012 #15
reformist2 Jul 2012 #20
ananda Jul 2012 #21
progressoid Jul 2012 #39
MADem Jul 2012 #43
rocktivity Jul 2012 #16
MADem Jul 2012 #19
Spazito Jul 2012 #22
MADem Jul 2012 #24
Spazito Jul 2012 #25
MADem Jul 2012 #29
Spazito Jul 2012 #32
MADem Jul 2012 #33
Spazito Jul 2012 #34
MADem Jul 2012 #36
sibelian Jul 2012 #42
ananda Jul 2012 #11
Marrah_G Jul 2012 #13
Ruby the Liberal Jul 2012 #14
ThatsMyBarack Jul 2012 #18
grantcart Jul 2012 #17
MADem Jul 2012 #23
dsc Jul 2012 #31
MADem Jul 2012 #35
dsc Jul 2012 #37
mnhtnbb Jul 2012 #26
progressoid Jul 2012 #40
pokerfan Jul 2012 #41

Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 08:36 AM

1. Abide With Me

A lovely old hymn. Totally odd that the segment wasn't aired. Maybe because it would have meant several minutes that Lauer and Costas couldn't prattle on about something or other. Did they ever STFU?

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 08:37 AM

2. They sucked at it last time as well

I am SOOOOOO glad I did not watch.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 08:57 AM

3. very moving segment

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 08:58 AM

4. That was lovely - I wish they had shown it

Makes me wonder what else they cut out.

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Response to rox63 (Reply #4)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 11:35 AM

27. It was just beautiful. nt

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Response to rox63 (Reply #4)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 11:47 AM

28. Looks like they cut 2 other segments on British popular culture.

This review from London includes sections on "Television Culture" and "Great Moments in British Weather" that we didn't see.

I was sorely disappointed waiting for the appearance of Doctor Who!

http://summergames.ap.org/article/anglophiles-delight-opening-ceremony-explainer

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Response to Fozzledick (Reply #28)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 12:27 PM

30. That's too bad - I would have enjoyed those segments as well

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 09:00 AM

5. ah.....7/7. What a beautiful piece. Thank you for posting. nt

 

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 09:09 AM

6. but america got to see ryan seacrest....fuck nbc

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 09:28 AM

7. Sublime.

So moving and poignant.

Well done Brits.


p.s. - "Abide with Me" has never been so beautifully rendered.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 09:35 AM

8. I don’t have enough middle fingers

I went against my better judgment and put my guard down in order to watch NBC. I thought it would be uplifting and inspirational to watch the opening ceremony yet Meredith Vieira and Matt Lauer saw to it to make this event about them, about only America, and disparaging towards non-western countries in their coverage. Now to learn about this exclusion or censorship of a 7/7 Tribute, makes me wish I didn’t bother, I truly did not get the full experience of the opening ceremony , of unity, or anything positive.

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Response to MissNostalgia (Reply #8)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 02:20 PM

38. I felt the same way. Disgusting.

I made it as far as the chiimneys, and turned it off. It was either that or turn the sound down. As if I needed a narrative. We're a sick country, with the exception of a bunch of people like you and probably more than I realize.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 09:39 AM

9. re:Video of Olympic Ceremony Tribute to Terrorist Victims NBC didn't want you to see:

i wish that nbcs staff would just at times shut up during events like this ,and just let the camera roll. i cant stand dick buttens ( if he is still around ) cutting a athletes performance whilst doing it and so fourth. moving moment though .

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 09:42 AM

10. I agree with the sentiment expressed in the comments at the link--that was a "channel changer."

Also, I'm thinking perhaps NBC thought, given the limited time they had to compress all the "best stuff" into the evening's fare, that a Christian hymn might be regarded as insensitive and proselytizing to those of other faiths or no faith at all in their rather diverse audience.

This memorial wasn't a generic "victims of terrorism" piece, it was entirely specific to the victims of 7/7, (who were displayed in the photographs at the start of the piece) as the announcer pointed out.

For those unfamiliar with 7/7 (which happened a mere seven years ago), this article is instructive: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_July_2005_London_bombings

I think NBC made a good call. You can watch it on the internet, so they didn't "prevent" anyone from seeing it, and if they didn't "want" us to see it, it's because they feared it would put many to sleep and offend others with the overtly Christian theme of the song. NBC rather sensibly just provided material that they regarded as more appealing to their audience.

7/7 was a local London thing--even the bombers were homegrown.

Sure, you can make the argument that the religious song and dance that was provided could have or should have been representative of other tragedies, but it wasn't--it was about the London bombing and that alone. If it included the other victims of terrorism, surely the terrorism attack at the Olympics forty years ago that killed so many Jewish athletes could have been folded into this tableau--and it wasn't. "Abide With Me" would have been a terribly insensitive choice in that case, too.

This was all about 7/7, the London bombing, and nothing more.

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Response to MADem (Reply #10)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 10:25 AM

12. They weren't afraid of offending non-Christians.

They were afraid of pissing off Americans that think anything that happens in other countries clearly isn't important. Or not so much afraid of them as pandering to them.

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Response to JoeyT (Reply #12)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 10:42 AM

15. You're welcome to your opinion. I simply don't agree--the thing was a SNOOZER.

That 7/7 bombing, while devastating to the 52 people who were killed and the hundreds wounded, was no 911, and comparisons to it are not apt.

No buildings came down, no gaping hole was left in a major "hub" city for over a decade, the death toll was not thousands from all over the world, and the terrorists were home-grown, not outside actors. It was a local tragedy that was occasioned by world influences.

The reason it "applied" to London, and to the Olympics, specifically, is because the bombing of the tube trains and that bus happened right after London was awarded these very games.

And that dance piece and the Christian hymn were, as I said, channel changers.

If your mileage varies, that's fine. We're all different and we like different things and have different opinions. However, I think NBC made the right call.

There's a lot to not like about NBC's coverage (the incessant babbling, among them) but I'm not going to get huffy about them cutting out that crawling-along nap-time opportunity. It was meaningful to Londoners, certainly--less riveting (or likely even understood) to the world at large.

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Response to MADem (Reply #15)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 11:12 AM

20. I know NBC is all about ratings, but last night was the UK's show.

NBC should have aired all of it, even the "snoozer" parts.

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Response to reformist2 (Reply #20)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 11:20 AM

21. Agree.

I hate corporations making viewing decisions for me.

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Response to MADem (Reply #15)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 02:25 PM

39. Ryan Seacreast is a SNOOZER.

As soon an he came on I went to the kitchen to get a snack.

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Response to progressoid (Reply #39)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 04:41 PM

43. He is--but Phelps is not. He is a corporate darling.

People want to hear what he has to say.

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Response to MADem (Reply #10)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 10:43 AM

16. If anybody censored tributes to 9/11 as just a couple of "local things"

We'd send in the drones!

So it WASN'T "fun." So it WASN'T an "up" tune. It was a memorial for people who had been MURDERED on THEIR turf. What would NBC have been happier with -- people spilling out of a subway clown car with the Benny Hill theme playing?


rocktivity

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Response to rocktivity (Reply #16)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 11:06 AM

19. Well, the comparisons to 911, as I said, are not apt.

911 involved thousands of victims from all over the world, impacted a major world hub for over a decade, and was initiated by outside actors.

7/7 was a local tragedy, the transportation system was mended in short order, the victims and the perpetrators were Londoners -- it was just a different vibe.

People who have a different opinion are, again, welcome to it. It doesn't bother me that people don't think the way I do, but my mind won't be changed in any event.

I also think the Olympic Committee's insistence that the 40 year anniversary of the Olympic Village massacre in Munich NOT be remembered at the opener might have influenced NBC as well as other carriers' decisions to edit that out. The USA has a substantial Jewish population that is the second largest in the world after Israel (almost equal to Israel's, in fact).

Finally, I think some people are forgetting we didn't see that coverage live on NBC (which, unlike BBC, has to sell ads to pay the freight), so there was plenty of opportunity to tighten it up--London was sleeping when those images hit the NBC outlets.

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Response to MADem (Reply #19)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 11:22 AM

22. Gee, could your post be any more insulting and contemptuous...

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Response to Spazito (Reply #22)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 11:24 AM

24. Insulting and contemptuous to whom, pray tell?

Vomiting smilie notwithstanding, I don't take your point at all.

I don't demand you share my opinion--how many times do I need to repeat that?

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Response to MADem (Reply #24)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 11:31 AM

25. To the idea of a tribute to those who died on 7/7 in London...

because it was "a local tragedy" inferring it is not worth a tribute and NBC was right to cut it. I find it quite astounding, to say the least, when someone feels they have a superior view of what is valid to memorialise and what isn't.

I DON'T share your opinion and gave my opinion of your opinion, demand or no.

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Response to Spazito (Reply #25)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 12:11 PM

29. I didn't say there was anything "wrong" with the tribute. I just didn't think

it would sell over here. Look, you are entirely free to differ with me, but you are not free to characterize me so rudely and not be challenged.

I daresay eight out of ten Americans, asked what 7/7 was (or its predecessor to the south-- 11M, aka 3/11 in some quarters) would have NO CLUE what you were talking about if you gave them a one sentence "What is it?" quiz. Try asking friends and strangers when you're out and about--and no leading hints.

That likely entered into the decision made by NBC, to say nothing of the fact that a slow, Christian hymn with a lot of jerky dancing in a dull orange setting might not appeal to the American palate. AND the Olympic Committee chose to ignore the fortieth anniversary of the horrific Munich Massacre. Mittsy's sauce for the goose, and all that. Why are some Olympic victims more important than others, one might ask? Artistically, too, it was slow and a channel changer.

You don't have to agree with me, but you shouldn't call people names just because they don't share your view. That's not mature.

Broadcasters appear to their own provincial markets. That's just how it is.

This Olympics, like most in the last forty years or so, is a commercial and corporate enterprise. The athletes are technical amateurs, some of them, but they are supported by a corporate infrastructure that pays through the nose to get them ready for world class competition, and wants value for their investment. You umbrage at the corporate entities like NBC doing what corporate entities do is a waste of emotion and effort. Enjoy the games for what they are, but don't expect any great lessons from them. They're fun, they are colorful, they are interesting and they will provide a few great moments of athleticism--and they will also provide corporations an opportunity to do what they do with unbridled vigor--rake in the big bucks.

And believe me, if there weren't Big Bucks involved, here, we'd all be watching Mister Ed reruns instead of Annie's prancing, dancing horse and other displays of athletic prowess.

Let the Sales Begin! Ka-ching!

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Response to MADem (Reply #29)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 12:43 PM

32. "I just didn't think it would sell over here"

That, in a nutshell, is why some Americans vote for politicians like Bush and Romney. What "sells" is the priority instead of providing a real, uncut view of what others think, what other countries set as their priority. Sadly, your posts seem to validate that view with its dismissive tone.



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Response to Spazito (Reply #32)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 12:59 PM

33. Well, that's your opinion and fine and dandy if you want to take that view.

My tone is not "dismissive"--I see the world as it actually is and I see NBC and the IOC for what they are--corporate entities that don't really give a shit about you, me, or anyone or anything save making a buck and keeping the most eyes glued to the screens as they can manage, in order to sell that advertising and make those bucks.

Your effort to align me inferentially with the Bush regime SOLELY because I'm not angry/outraged like you are (like those corporate entities will care) about a brief segment of the opening ceremonies that--like it or not--would NOT resonate over here--speaks to your character, not mine.

I'm not characterizing you in a negative fashion, even though I disagree with you. I simply tell you I disagree, and you, in return, call me names and suggest nefarious associations.

What does that say about you?

You might try the high road every once in a while. The view is grand.

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Response to MADem (Reply #33)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 01:05 PM

34. Obviously you and I have a different world view...

so be it.

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Response to Spazito (Reply #34)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 01:54 PM

36. The difference is I won't call you names or speculate about your political leanings simply

because I don't agree with you.

So be it, indeed.

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Response to MADem (Reply #24)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 03:23 PM

42. Insulting and contemptuous to *me*.


Are you doing this intentionally?

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 09:43 AM

11. Criticism growing after NBC drops 7/7 tribute.

From the Guardian: http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/jul/28/london-2012-nbc-opening-ceremony

NBC, exclusive holders of the US rights to the Games, chose to broadcast the entire ceremony on a time-delay to maximise primetime advertising revenue, and were further criticised for refusing to provide a live online stream.

NBC's broadcast, which began as the live ceremony was finishing in London, left out sections including the reflective moment when the Scottish singer Emeli Sandé sang Abide with Me.

The section included images of loved ones lost by those in the stadium, and was also widely interpreted as a tribute to the 52 victims of the 7/7 terrorist attacks in London in 2005.

On the BBC's coverage, commentator Hazel Irvine said: "The excitement of that moment in Singapore seven years ago when London won the Games was tempered with great sorrow the very next day, with the events on 7 July."

However NBC instead cut away in order to show Seacrest, the host of American Idol, interview Phelps.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 10:34 AM

13. ........

Why the hell would they do that?

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 10:36 AM

14. Thank you for that link.

That was very moving. I hadn't realized they cut it - what a shitty thing to do. US media would be in a apoplectic rage if some other nation cut a tribute here to 911 from their feeds to interview an athlete.

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Response to Ruby the Liberal (Reply #14)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 10:46 AM

18. An overexposed celebrity athlete!

Thank you for the link. Make that video viral!

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 10:43 AM

17. After watching that and the tribute to their wonderful NHS you just want to give the fuck up

and move their.

An adult country that has adult conversations and still has wit and humor and John Clease and Rowan Atkinson.

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Response to grantcart (Reply #17)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 11:23 AM

23. And a conservative PM...

Unemployment running about the same as here, but everything you buy costs half again to twice as much, depending upon the exchange rate.

It's a lovely place for part of the year (not all, though), but it's not cheap. Americans gasp in disbelief when they figure out the exchange rate and learn how much they're paying at that Pizza Hut or Burger King.

Cleese is living offshore (Monaco or Switzerland? He was living in USA but went through an expensive divorce that continues to rankle him) for tax purposes. Mr. Bean, though, lives in UK and deals with the taxes...!

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Response to MADem (Reply #23)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 12:34 PM

31. I don't think it is a fair cost of living comparison to use American restraunts

compare the cost of pizza at a local place here to pizza at a local place there. They likely treat pizza hut as imported and tax it accordingly.

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Response to dsc (Reply #31)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 01:50 PM

35. I used to live there. KFC, Pizza Hut, Mickey D's--these are not "American" foods

anymore. They are international fast foods--not at all exotic. People eat that crap every day over there. They are considered "economical" places to eat, in the big scheme of things and they are ubiquitous--you can always find one not too far away from where ever you might be. There are Burger Kings everywhere, too even at Heathrow (you can get a veggie burger at them, too, a gardenburger or a soymeat burger--a nod to the Indian population).

You can buy frozen pizza in the Tesco's (supermart) just like you can in USA. They aren't all sitting down to bangers and mash and spotted dick every day, anymore. I think many people have a "retro" view of UK based on old paradigms they've learned from old films and TV shows, but they aren't really operative anymore.

The largest McDonald's in the WORLD just opened...in London, just in time for the Games:


It was not the only place, but it was certainly the biggest – the largest McDonald's restaurant, in fact, in the world, which threw open its doors at 7am, with capacity for 1,500 people inside, and very soon had queues so long the security guards were holding people back at the door.

You know about the food, of course – it's the same, for the same price, as the restaurant serves in its 1,200 UK outlets and many tens of thousands more across the world: sausage and egg McMuffin, 430 calories, £1.99: something called "Chicken Legend" with cool mayo, 550 calories, £3.39. "Women need around 2,000 calories, men around 2,500 and children around 1,600 per day," the menu offers. Three or four Chicken Legends with room to spare, then.

But if the menu was familiar, the outlet itself, a two-tier box sunk slightly below ground, but squatting on prime real estate on the main park walkway next to the stadium, was more of a surprise. "As McDonald's go I would say it's actually pretty nice," said Abraham, sitting in a semi-shaded terrace on the upper floor with the stadium and Orbit tower behind him, framed by a lovely stretch of wildflower bank. "You don't get many with a view like that."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/jul/28/london-2012-mcdonalds-branch-queus?newsfeed=true

I've eaten (or gotten a beverage) at McDonald's in Japan (they used to sell a great corn soup at the Japanese Mak-u-dona-do) , Italy, UK, Spain, a bunch of other places. They aren't "foreign" any more, and haven't been for eons, though they will occasionally put a "local" item or two on the menu. They are part of the landscape around the world. Heck, I lived not far from a KFC (one of the early internationalists) in IRAN back in the seventies.

I have paid thirty bucks for a small pizza and a couple of soft drinks in London, about fifteen years ago. At a Pizza Hut. Surrounded by Londoners--not tourists-- ordering up their thirty dollar pizzas.

Stuff IS expensive there--worse in London, but pricey even in the hinterlands. When people do the math in their heads, after finding out what someone makes per week or month, they think "Ooooh, nice wage!" Then, when they find out what a rent for a small flat is, how much petrol costs, how much food costs (and how much smaller the cans, boxes, and packages are), how much electricity and heat will set one back, all of a sudden that "nice wage" is barely enough.

That's some serious "culture shock," right there. The grass is always greener....it's why so many Brits like Florida in the winter. Even with the outrageous prices to get there, and get into the theme parks, they think they've scored a real bargain--rental cars (and gasoline) are cheap, hotels/restaurants are comparatively VERY affordable, plenty of sunshine, it's a winning combo.

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Response to MADem (Reply #35)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 02:08 PM

37. I still think it is a bit unfair in that the minimum wage in Britain is

vastly higher than the same wage here. They also pay for health care when they fill up with petrol. All told I think I would trade even up with them.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 11:34 AM

26. Very moving. Posted to my fb wall.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 02:26 PM

40. Rec. Thanks for the link to the video.

I would never have seen it otherwise.


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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 02:41 PM

41. Fuck NBC

I hope they never get the Olympics again...

When asked about editing the song-and-dance performance, an NBC Sports spokesman responded in a statement: “Our program is tailored for the U.S. television audience..”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/28/nbc-victims-tribute_n_1713527.html


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