Pro-Trump pastor: Stormy Daniels allegations 'totally irrelevant' to evangelical support for Trump

[spanone]

Hypocrisy on steroids.....

A member of President Trump’s evangelical advisory board defended Trump over the controversy surrounding his alleged relationship with adult-film actress Stormy Daniels, saying the allegations were “totally irrelevant” to evangelicals who support Trump.

“Evangelicals know they’re not compromising their beliefs in order to support this great president,” Pastor Robert Jeffress said on Fox News Thursday. “And let’s be clear, evangelicals still believe in the commandment ‘thou shalt not have sex with a porn star.’”

“However, whether this president violated that commandment or not is totally irrelevant to our support of him,” he continued.

Jeffress said evangelicals knew they “weren’t voting for an altar boy” when they voted for Trump and maintained they supported Trump for his “policies and strong leadership.”
The pastor, who oversees the First Baptist Church in Dallas, said evangelicals understand “the concept of sin and forgiveness.”

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/377559-pro-trump-pastor-stormy-daniels-allegations-totally-irrelevant-to-evangelical

[sharedvalues]

1. Evangelical goal: American religious fascism

That’s why they like the president: for his fascist tendencies. We’re seeing the evangelical goal revealed: control others, pursue money and power. Pence and his Christofascist movement are cut from the same cloth.



I never thought I’d be saying that evangelical Christians cared more about fascism and control than they cared about Jesus. But it’s now demonstrably true.

[spanone]

2. ....why do these 'churches' remain tax exempt?

Pastor David Floyd, appalled that a president of the United States had the soul-destroying gall to embark on a sexual relationship with a woman less than half his age, told his Alabama flock in 1998 that Bill Clinton had crossed the line and had to go.

As allegations of advances by Senate candidate Roy Moore on women less than half his age have peppered Alabama voters almost daily over the past week, Floyd is telling his congregation that Moore is “an upright man” who should be forgiven for his sins and elected to office.

Floyd, who for 34 years has been the pastor at Marvyn Parkway Baptist Church in Opelika, says his evangelical theology has not changed in the past two decades. It’s just that he knows Moore to be a more moral man than Clinton was.

“All of us have sinned and need a savior,” Floyd said. “Of course, moral character is still important. But with Bill Clinton or Harvey Weinstein or Bill Cosby, we’re talking about something completely different. You have to look at the totality of the man. That’s why I support Judge Moore. I’ve prayed with him. I know his heart.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/for-some-evangelicals-a-choice-between-moore-and-morality/2017/11/16/27a28a16-cadc-11e7-b0cf-7689a9f2d84e_story.html?utm_term=.601e5cd54377

[sharedvalues]

11. Seriously. And why are Jud Wat, Cit U tax exempt?

We need a massive change in how we regulate money in politics.

[workinclasszero]

16. Totally true

And I say that as a believer in Jesus.

These people want naked political power. Their moral bleating and holy playacting are just a cover to grab power over this country and everyone in it.

They are hardcore fascist and we better be aware of it.

Their near 100% backing of the most morally corrupt president this country has ever suffered under is all the proof anyone needs to know about the true goals of the religious/evangelical right.

[keithbvadu2]

27. Religion and politics use each other to gain power and wealth.

[workinclasszero]

32. It would seem so

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as in France before the revolution.

The organized churches in this country are now taking food out of the mouths of hungry children, denying healthcare to the sick, oppressing and robbing the poor and punishing the stranger in the land.

The exact opposite of what Jesus told them to do. They are pious frauds.

They are fucking fascist bastards. If they back Trump and the republican party, the truth is far far away from their lyin tongues, that's for damn sure!

[keithbvadu2]

39. fascist bastards

[workinclasszero]

40. LOL

Ain't it the truth?

[malaise]

3. Calling these scumbags hypocrites doesn't quite describe

them.

[spanone]

4. i was being 'christian' in my description

[malaise]

5. LOL

Not sure any of them can even spell that word

[mreilly]

6. I prefer the term...

... "useless fucking human garbage that is lower than shit, since at least shit can serve as a fertilizer."

It's thanks to these rotten, soulless, evil motherfuckers that I'm an atheist. There couldn't possibly be a benevolent God up there with this kind of garbage walking around.

[malaise]

9. I'm an atheist because I need scientific explanations and not mumbo jumbo

but you describe them well.. Check out my signature line - they are pig-shit covered lunatics.

[Ligyron]

35. Me too!

How otherwise sane, logical people can avoid applying that common sense to their magic claims never fails to astonish.

[SWBTATTReg]

7. This guy is another reason why I don't listen to these POS...

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and they say they listen to God. No wonder evangelicals are losing the battle for believers. No one believes them anymore. Isn't it amazing that they always manage to pluck words out of the air to support their positions?

There are a hell of a lot more people I admire for their policies and strong leadership then this POS pastor and tRUMP. I don't know where this so called pastor got his learning from, but it's obviously a school for the blind and / or the deaf (no disrespect to any of our fellow handicapped DUers meant, 1 of you is worth 1,000 of tRUMP and Jeffress/jerkoff combined).

[Enoki33]

28. He also reminded us why so many see the so called

religious evangelicals (whatever the hell that is supposed to mean) as a colossal monument to hypocrisy and corruption in our politics. Amazing why some even bother to listen to these grifters.

[Orange Free State]

8. This guy is trying to write the script

But it’s just his opinion. Trump’s behavior can’t help him any among Evangelicals. And if this guy prayed with Roy Moore, maybe he should go back to Alabama and pray with him some more. His work ain’t done yet.

[imanamerican63]

10. I hate to say this, but there are who are are Christians and those who want to be!

The real Christians believe you are judged by God & the others believe that you are judged by money, greed and power! As long as the others get their way they turn and look away from the truth!

[Generic Brad]

12. Sin and selective forgiveness

This tribalism on steroids is inexcusable and demonstrates the antithesis of the values they claim to represent. Democrats cannot be forgiven and will burn in hell for pretend scandal like Pizza-gate, Benghazi, her e-mails. But Republicans get a free pass on all manner of proven corruption and lawlessness because God loves them more?

[ismnotwasm]

13. Thats not exactly a commandment

This guy is an asshole AND an idiot.

[dchill]

14. XXXtians.

[Freethinker65]

18. Ha

[sinkingfeeling]

15. "Biblical teachings totally irrelevant to the First Baptist Church of Dallas"

[workinclasszero]

17. But don't forget to pass the plate and

give till it hurts suckers.

Preacher needs a new mansion and a private jet fools.

[Still In Wisconsin]

19. Let me save some time and translate: anything TRUMP does is OK because he's a Republican.

That's pretty much everything this shitbag "pastor" says about TRUMP in a nutshell.

[Old Enough 2]

20. HUCKSTERS WITH A WHITE COLLAR

Requirements to became an Evangelical Preacher:

....A glib tongue

....Ability to memorize and convolute biblical passage

....Con man at heart

....Power hunger

....Keep in mind......a sucker is born every minute

....Have sociopathic tendencies.......it's all about you

....Tell your flock god wants them to be rich, you are the answer

[SayItLoud]

21. Will these hypocrites draw the line at...

Abortion?

In over 50 years of tRUMP forcing himself on women you KNOW one or more had to become impregnated. Either there are lots of tiny handed tRUMPies running around OR he paid/forced them to have an abortion.

Hoping one of these exploited women will find the strength and courage to speak up. What will the F'n Evangels find to justify their great POS, er potus?

[dchill]

29. Mulliganagain.

[dalton99a]

22. They worship Trump, not Jesus

"Make America Great Again" Anthem Performed by The First Baptist Church of Dallas Choir

[workinclasszero]

26. "When fascism comes to America....

...it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."

That picture perfectly illustrates the quote.

[Raven123]

23. At least he is being honest

It is clear that evangelical's no longer value what they claim to be evangelical values.

[kimbutgar]

24. A guy my hubby works with who is evangelical refers to Twitler as father now

That’s how sick these people are now.

[Mr. Ected]

25. Let's be sure to get back with this guy when the Dems are back in charge

I bet his moral compass does a 180.

Meaning his morals are subjective.

Meaning he has no morals.

Meaning he's a pretty shitty Christian.

[keithbvadu2]

30. When Bill Clinton was in office, they said: character matters. They've gotten over that now.

When Bill Clinton was in office, they said: character matters. They've gotten over that now.

[Joediss]

31. Fascist

Religious community has totally adopted this God damn racists , I use to go to church a few years ago, I just looked over them , then. Can't do it anymore, went to a high school ball game yesterday , you see the same stupid shit. Hell, these people are brain washed, that what a bunch of preachers and fox news will do for you , I live in North East Texas, so surprise to me .

[True Blue American]

33. I heard him say that!

He is sick!

[moriah]

34. Tell me when that fucker EVER said he "asked forgiveness".

He fucking SAID IT HIMSELF.

He doesn't believe God has a role in forgiveness, refers to Communion as a "little cracker" (still love Samantha Bee's response to that), and even though the Presbyterian liturgy doesn't even have the Episcopalian version of confession (essentially Episcopalians say aloud in unison that we've all violated Jesus's two commandments and humbly repent) before Communion "feels cleansed".

The only gospel Trump supports is the Prosperity Gospel, and we all know it's just a pyramid scheme -- and that's why he supports it. His "faith advisor" was so anxious for money she said everyone should give her their entire January salary as a "first fruits offering".

Evangelicals might believe in God's forgiveness, but Trump doesn't.

[workinclasszero]

38. If President Obama would have said that

The right wing evangelicals would have burned crosses on the white house lawn and called him satan in the flesh.

But Dump is a republican so all is well.

[erpowers]

43. They Called Him Satan

President Obama did not say that, but they still called him Satan. I think the only reasons they did not burn crosses on the White House lawn is that there was a gate and they would have either been shot, or arrested if the trespassed on the lawn.

Do not forget the part about Trump being white. I realize they did not like Bill Clinton either, but I do not think they would be this understanding of a black male Republican. I think some evangelicals are also happy that Donald Trump has restored their view of racial balance. I am not sure evangelicals hated Bill Clinton as much as they hated Barack Obama. I do not see how President Obama was that much worse, from an evangelical standpoint, than President Clinton. Yes, President Obama supported gay marriage and gay rights, but it is possible that evangelicals hated President Obama even when he was not very supportive of gay rights. At the beginning of the administration President Obama seemed to be leaning against making a big push for major gay rights. In terms of President Obama's actions in his personal life, I would say President Obama was much better than President Clinton and yet Republicans and evangelicals criticized him on that issue also. President Obama neither entered office with a sexual/marriage scandal nor did he have one while in office or leave with a sexual/marriage scandal. However, Jeb Bush claimed President Obama was not doing enough to model family values to families, especially black families. Where are the Republicans claiming that Donald Trump is not doing enough to model family values to families, especially white families?

More could be said on this issue including bringing up the lack of criticism of the Palin family by Republicans even though most of those kids seem to be out of control. Is there are reason the Obama family endured 8 years of criticism although their kids seemed to either not get into trouble, or only got into minor trouble (Malia smoking an unidentified substance) while the Palins are not criticized even though more than one of their kids seems unable to stay out of trouble?

[smirkymonkey]

36. Tax the shit out of these hypocrites!

They are just corrupt to the core.

[Crunchy Frog]

37. They sure didn't understand "the concept of sin and forgiveness"

When Bill Clinton was president.

Jesus spoke quite harshly against hypocrits, but I'm guessing they skipped over that part.

[NastyRiffraff]

41. Here's a little experiment for the Evangelists:

Substitute "Obama" for "Trump" when talking about sex with a porn actor and see if you come up with the same conclusion.

I thought so.

[secondwind]

42. What a crock!

[Volaris]

44. Somebody bookmark this for when it's a Democratic politician please

'the concept of sin and forgiveness'. Uh huh.
Gods in heaven I'm sick of these idiots hypocrisy.

[Aristus]

45. Aaaaaaaaand, this is why the formerly-devout Mrs. Aristus still won't go back to church.

Fifteen months and counting.

I don't miss it. Her church was always too conservative for me. And now it's too pro-Trump for her.

I do miss the sermons of our brilliant pastor. (He's fairly conservative, but not kawakka-wakka crazy). But the huge piece out of our Sundays for those interminable services, I don't miss at all...