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[Renew Deal]

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[Skittles]

1. it is the sign of a gun humping coward

[50 Shades Of Blue]

12. Could not have said it better myself.

[sharedvalues]

30. Insecure coward who needs a gun to make him feel more manly

[Bettie]

45. Yeah, who needs a gun

to go to the grocery store?

Seriously, most of us don't live in neighborhoods so dangerous that one needs to be armed 24/7.

I have never been that fearful in my life and I'm an anxious person by nature.

[sharedvalues]

47. But even if you WERE fearful, a gun wouldn't help - it's all about weak, loser men

who need to feel good. And that gets kids killed. Vomit.

[pintobean]

53. Yeah...

[sharedvalues]

55. So lame and stupid. Looks like a fool and a GOP dupe with that gun

I'm glad no one is allowed to do that in MY city.

[LanternWaste]

56. I finally get the Gladys Kravitz references.

I finally get the Gladys Kravitz references. They really were spot-on!

[pintobean]

57. Yeah...

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No, you don't.

[kairos12]

51. I fired every weapon you can think of in the infantry. I slept well at night

knowing that, once training was completed, they were locked in the arms room. I have never understood the need to carry such powerful weapons around a grocery store or a mall. If you like them so much join the military.

[flotsam]

2. I alerted

your post is divisive garbage,

[Renew Deal]

3. Good luck

. You might seek comfort by hugging your gun or wearing a bullet crown.

[Judi Lynn]

14. It's something any true hugger needs, to be well dressed.

[Aristus]

25. Alert away...

If telling the truth comes across as divisive, so be it...

[hexola]

38. We need to cut the PC crap when it comes to open carry

Im glad this post was made.

We need to quit being so polite and politically correct when it comes to guns.

Call them out...call them names.

The right loves to complain about "political correctness"...so let's cut it - and let them know what people really think.

[Aristus]

50. Amen...

[Demsrule86]

39. When I see those with a gun strapped to their hip at a grocery store, I will call the cops

and have them come out just in case...I feel dangerous people do this sort of thing. They are sending a message...

[MFM008]

4. And I disagreed

I'm a gun owner and your entitled to like it or not.
Say it or not. I don't open carry. It isn't Texas 1850 ....

[Renew Deal]

5. I wasn't talking about you.

[MFM008]

7. I know

But I was on the jury and you should be able to speak your mind on this issue.

[StevieM]

9. I think he was confused because you replied to the wrong post.

I believe you meant to reply to the post that said "I alerted." Instead you replied to the OP. So the author did not understand the point you were trying to make.

[MFM008]

37. That's not surprising

My family can't make sense of me after 60 years.

[mr_lebowski]

10. As was I ...

Granted you the narrow leeway option since you didn't actually flame, you're just a smart-ass ... which I appreciate

But I do think you're being a bit extreme labeling EVERYONE in this fashion.

There is at least a LITTLE something to be appreciated about people honestly fighting for 'citizens rights' against unchecked government power.

Even if I personally find gun-humping to be a poor outlet/venue (I'd much rather they picketed for, say, collective bargaining, for example), the 'spirit' involved is not always an outright negative/scary thing like you're declaring it to be here, nor is it indicative of someone ready to snap in anything resembling a 'universal' way as you've portrayed it.

Just my $.02.

[Renew Deal]

13. I'm generally OK with people owning guns

And I mean generally. It gets a lot more complicated when we get into specifics. But that church humping of guns is extremist. The NRA should be asked to denounce the entire event.

The problem with people that open carry is that people around them don't know if they are some crazed killer or just an ordinary attention seeker. It shouldn't be up to normal civilian population to have to worry about it.

[mr_lebowski]

16. THAT is an argument I can get behind ... and another reason why arming teachers is a shit plan (nt)

[raccoon]

41. This needs to be shouted from the rooftops, because some don't get it, apparently:

The problem with people that open carry is that people around them don't know if they are some crazed killer or just an ordinary attention seeker. It shouldn't be up to normal civilian population to have to worry about it.

[rickford66]

6. A few Black Panthers put an end to open carry in California once.

All they did was exercise their rights. Boom. End of open carry.

[mr_lebowski]

15. Yeah, I've always said all it'll take 2 enact gun control is Muslims publicly supporting ...

Gun Ownership Rights.

They just need to start staging protests in open-carry states, and showing up with AR-15's strapped across their backs, in white garb with turbans and signs with pictures of DC politicians of both parties, Trump AND Obama and Hillary, labeling them infidels ...

[ProudLib72]

8. Agreed. There is no cogent reason for it

[50 Shades Of Blue]

11. K & R!!!

[EffieBlack]

17. White open-carrier is a patriot protecting his people. Black open carrier is a dangerous thug

And lucky if he’s not a dead one.

[Renew Deal]

19. Set aside the race issues, that's a terrible situation for everyone

It's terrible for the person scared enough to call the police. It's terrible for the police who are scared themselves. And it's bound to lead to tragedy at some point. It's no way for a civilized society to operate.

[EffieBlack]

20. But the fear you describe seems to be affected by race - which cant just be set aside

[Renew Deal]

23. I agree that it can't be set aside.

Remember this story from the Dallas shooting:

[EarnestPutz]

18. I think that concealed carry is worse than open carry.

I'd rather have concealed carry be completely illegal and have
everyone be required to open carry if they want a firearm for
self protection. They would pay some not inconsequential price
for their paranoia in being asked to leave some public places or in
being shunned by others.

[Skid Rogue]

21. It's real...

I work in a huge urban library in Alabama. The patrons are allowed to carry guns, both open and concealed. The library security guards stand there and check bags every day. No kidding, they are actually checking for food, to make sure homeless folks haven't got food in their bags, because food draws bugs. Don't ya love the Christian states?

[world wide wally]

22. The sign of a small dick for men and penis envy for women

[Skittles]

26. penis envy does not exist

trust me

what women envy is the extra pay and respect that goes with it

[world wide wally]

28. Then what is the bullet hat thing?

[Skittles]

29. no more significant than stilettos

women will make "fashion" out of the most ridiculous things

[world wide wally]

33. now that is a stretch

[Skittles]

35. no really

just because women wear camouflage patterns doesn't mean they want to go to war

[sharedvalues]

31. Gun lovers have small penis insecurity, you say? n/m

[world wide wally]

34. A lot of them... yes

[tavernier]

40. Hell yes.

[sharedvalues]

48. ...

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/1172205600

[Tipperary]

44. Penis envy. Thats pretty darn funny.

[Straw Man]

24. This picture is from a service in the Unification Church.

You might know them better as the Moonies. They represent the average gun owner about as much as they represent the average Christian.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

27. Even if the gun owner doesn't plan to use his weapon, someone might unexpectedly take it from him

who has entirely different intentions. Plus, there are always accidents, like those that seem to happen on a regular basis where the owner is injured while cleaning his gun, or a child finds their parent's gun and unknowingly shoots and kills their sibling.

[raccoon]

42. Excellent point. nt

[KT2000]

32. they remind me of -

flashers.

[Crunchy Frog]

58. Flashers are much more harmless.

[world wide wally]

36. Guns kill

amiright?

[smirkymonkey]

43. +1000

[aikoaiko]

46. There are different types of open carriers IMO

1. The rural outdoor worker who has a legit need to be able to draw fast to protect themselves or property. The first open carriers I saw were in AZ in the 1980s. They were real cowboys who came into town. They used their revolvers for personal and property protection. They mostly had lever actions in the pick-up trucks, but a few ARs and, surprising to me before I knew much about the rifles, SKSs.

2. The disciplined poltical open carrier. They open carry to demonstrate on behalf of their 2nd Amendment rights and are fairly organized and self-policing. They might be RW militias, new Black Panthers, or open carry organizations, and they might worry folks but they don't short anyone.

3. The suburban or urban carrier who is carrying concealed, but temporarily feels unsafe and untucks their shirt to display holstered handguns. I see this at ATM and gas stations in my small southern city. There aren't many of these but there have been cases where carriers unholstered and/or shot without justification but not often.

4. The eff-you because I can yahoo. They show up at various places to demonstrate, look unsafe, carry unsafe, and look disorganized. These are the ones that are most worrisome to me, but I can't say that I've heard of very many problems.

YMMV

[Exotica]

52. Recd

[Hoyt]

54. In most cases, gun toting -- whether open or concealed -- is an affront to society.

The 7% or so who have to strap on a gun or two to got to Chuck E Cheeze or wherever are a problem in our society.

By coddling gun toters, you also get these wonderful 2nd Amendment supporters.