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The Atlantic: Manafort's fate is sealed (Original Post) triron Feb 2018 OP
Wisdom from "Wall Street" no_hypocrisy Feb 2018 #1
wow from the article: mucifer Feb 2018 #2
Rachel Maddow spoke about Manafort and Deripaska on her Friday show womanofthehills Feb 2018 #13
Who got away with everything until Cha Feb 2018 #16
Thanks. A good read! nt Binkie The Clown Feb 2018 #3
If he winds up in a US prison, he should consider himself lucky. GoCubsGo Feb 2018 #4
US prisons are a nightmare mucifer Feb 2018 #5
Federal Prison Min Security isn't Motownman78 Feb 2018 #8
That's not 40 years. S/he isn't going to die there and that's not where mucifer Feb 2018 #10
russian mobsters are easy to find in prision Merlot Feb 2018 #7
excerpt: lindysalsagal Feb 2018 #6
+1 uponit7771 Feb 2018 #11
Looks like he couldnt make it right with the big D Gabi Hayes Feb 2018 #9
He's going to die in jail. Tatiana Feb 2018 #12
Die in prison, mfckr, and take The Don with you Hekate Feb 2018 #14
No it isn't. There's always the pardon route Azathoth Feb 2018 #15

mucifer

(23,542 posts)
2. wow from the article:
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 08:31 PM
Feb 2018
There’s one primary reason that Manafort appears so unwilling to reconcile himself with the unimpeachable reality. For his entire career, he has taken audacious risks and managed to get away with them. His friends describe him as wired to take chances that most rational creatures would avoid. Such is the temperament that leads a person to allegedly launder millions, in a long series of batches, each one a fresh opportunity to get busted by the feds. And it has led him to spend much of his career working on behalf of murderous autocrats, capricious dictators and vengeful oligarchs, like the Angolan insurgent Jonas Savimbi and the Filipino president Ferdinand Marcos. Manafort not only had the skills to bend these characters to his will; he seemingly took pleasure in the challenge of taming and mastering dangerous men. (Trump was the rare strongman he couldn’t quite master.)

To live with the constant threat of personal peril requires a healthy dose of denial. Manafort behaves as if he believes everything will eventually fall in his favor, that problems will inevitably resolve themselves. When the Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska accused him of stealing $20 million in 2011, Manafort simply didn’t respond to the aluminum magnate’s calls or emails for several years, according to a lawsuit filed by Deripaska earlier this year. Instead of trying to assuage Deripaska, who carries such a fierce reputation that the U.S. has denied him a visa, Manafort acted as if his pursuer didn’t exist. It wasn’t an entirely foolish bet. When Manafort eventually joined up with the Trump in 2016, he sent emails to Deripaska via an emissary promising him privileged access to the campaign, perhaps providing a tidy moment to settle their old differences. (Deripaska denies having seen the emails and denies any recent contact with Manafort.)


Much more in the article.

So it seems he's a spoiled rich guy who gets what he want's more than he's afraid of being poisoned.

GoCubsGo

(32,083 posts)
4. If he winds up in a US prison, he should consider himself lucky.
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 08:34 PM
Feb 2018

The Russian mobsters won't be able to take him out there.

 

Motownman78

(491 posts)
8. Federal Prison Min Security isn't
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 10:20 PM
Feb 2018

Have a friend doing 90 months in Talahassee. She has a jo, gets to play softball daily, smoke cigarettes, ect. Not too bad by my standards.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
7. russian mobsters are easy to find in prision
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 10:00 PM
Feb 2018

and they have a lot of time on their hands. He's probably safer outside of prision.

lindysalsagal

(20,684 posts)
6. excerpt:
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 08:50 PM
Feb 2018


There’s one primary reason that Manafort appears so unwilling to reconcile himself with the unimpeachable reality. For his entire career, he has taken audacious risks and managed to get away with them. His friends describe him as wired to take chances that most rational creatures would avoid. Such is the temperament that leads a person to allegedly launder millions, in a long series of batches, each one a fresh opportunity to get busted by the feds. And it has led him to spend much of his career working on behalf of murderous autocrats, capricious dictators and vengeful oligarchs, like the Angolan insurgent Jonas Savimbi and the Filipino president Ferdinand Marcos. Manafort not only had the skills to bend these characters to his will; he seemingly took pleasure in the challenge of taming and mastering dangerous men. (Trump was the rare strongman he couldn’t quite master.)

They were in the mud together for years—and when their alleged misdeeds were finally exposed by Mueller, Manafort could reasonably have convinced himself that Gates would remain loyal to the end. But now Gates has peeled away from his father figure, and that couldn’t be any worse for Manafort.

Whatever blanks remain in Mueller’s narrative, Gates can fill them. If there are any weaknesses in the existing evidence, Gates can bolster them. With their intimate history and Gates’s long immersion in the crevices of Manafort’s finances and political dealings, he’s pure prosecutorial gold. With the next turns of the Mueller’s screw, Manafort will be forced into an ultimate reckoning with all the witnesses, all the evidence, all the sentencing guidelines arrayed against him, a belated, harsh reunion with reality.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
12. He's going to die in jail.
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 11:17 PM
Feb 2018

Unless he commits suicide -- which apparently, he has threatened to do on at least one occasion.

Azathoth

(4,608 posts)
15. No it isn't. There's always the pardon route
Mon Feb 26, 2018, 03:41 AM
Feb 2018

From everything I've seen, the only reason Trump hasn't already fired Mueller and issued pardons to everyone is because his staff have been lying to him and telling him it's all on the verge of blowing over. Once the fantasy bubble he's in pops, all bets are off.

I'm convinced that Manafort and everyone else will be pardoned the day Jared is indicted.

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