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sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 10:23 PM Feb 2018

Russians tilted Senate too. Toomey (PA), Johnson (WI) both won by less than 100,000 votes

Last edited Fri Feb 16, 2018, 10:58 PM - Edit history (1)

And 100,000 votes could easily have been the result of the voter suppression campaign the Russians were running.
We need to face the idea that the Dems may well have control of the Senate right now if not for the Russians.
And if so, we'd have investigations RIGHT NOW into the president, no Gorsuch, and no $3T tax cut for billionaires, on a credit card our kids will have to pay back.


https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/16/trump-russia-indictments-mueller-investigation-415667

the Russians "learned from the real U.S. person that they should focus their activities on 'purple states .'"

Afterward, the indictment alleges, the co-conspirators "commonly referred to targeting 'purple states.”


The Russians aimed to suppress turnout, especially by minorities, in purple states like WI and PA, in the 2016 election.

From the indictment: https://www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download

After the rallies in Florida, Defendants and their co-conspirators used false U.S. personas to organize and coordinate U.S. political rallies supporting then-candidate Trump in New York and Pennsylvania.
On or about September 22, 2016, Defendants and their co-conspirators created and purchased Facebook advertisements for a series of rallies they organized in Pennsylvania called "Miners for Trump" and scheduled for October 2, 2016.



In or around the latter half of 2016, Defendants and their co-conspirators, through their ORGANIZATION-controlled personas, began to encourage U.S. minority groups not to vote in the 2016 U.S. presidential election



And Blunt won by 80k votes in purple Missouri. Burr won by 250k votes in purple NC. Toomey won by 80k votes in purple PENNSYLVANIA, named in the indictment. Johnson won by 100k votes in purple Wisconson.



One cannot avoid the conclusion that Russian election interference might well have swung the senate to the GOP.

Gorsuch is illegitimate. 3 billion dollars in tax cuts for billionaires are illegitimate. Pruitt, DeVos, Zinke are illegitimate nominees.



This 2016 election was a snowjob. The Senate must come to a halt immediately. The country is getting screwed because of not just American oligarchs like the Koches, but Russian oligarchs.
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Russians tilted Senate too. Toomey (PA), Johnson (WI) both won by less than 100,000 votes (Original Post) sharedvalues Feb 2018 OP
did you mean a snowden job? OhNo-Really Feb 2018 #1
Snowden Job plus GOP Ratf**ckng. It worked because the GOP was complicit. sharedvalues Feb 2018 #2
For decades now, sin Reagan, I have been perplexed why people around the world were electing OhNo-Really Feb 2018 #5
+1, Ohio 2004 ... Roves reaction 2012 uponit7771 Feb 2018 #7
The biggest reason is billionaires - American oligarchs built a propaganda machine sharedvalues Feb 2018 #8
absolutely OhNo-Really Feb 2018 #13
Yes. Blue wave will bring a New Deal II sharedvalues Feb 2018 #14
Wave? USA needs a BLUE TSUNAMI OhNo-Really Feb 2018 #15
Yup. Get big money out of politics sharedvalues Feb 2018 #16
Kander lost his race in Missouri by less than 100K votes as well. LonePirate Feb 2018 #3
I love Kander. He's doing good work in the meantime: Majority 54 sharedvalues Feb 2018 #4
That's relatively easy to do, hack the voter roles and micro purge voters like Bush's uponit7771 Feb 2018 #6
Key pt: Russians (and GOP) hacked minds with propaganda sharedvalues Feb 2018 #9
Is he really going there? Generic Brad Feb 2018 #10
We know Hannity conspired with Assange who is a tool of the Russians. sharedvalues Feb 2018 #11
Sean Hannity is GWC58 Feb 2018 #12
I knew something was up in 2014 when the Reprobates won every single race they needed to. Hugin Feb 2018 #17
Outcomes can never be certain sharedvalues Feb 2018 #18

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
2. Snowden Job plus GOP Ratf**ckng. It worked because the GOP was complicit.
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 10:31 PM
Feb 2018

Didn't work in France, because their rightwing party is less billionaire-controlled and authoritarian than our right-wing party.

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
5. For decades now, sin Reagan, I have been perplexed why people around the world were electing
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 10:46 PM
Feb 2018

such conservative leaders. I think the coup has been ongoing for awhile now.

Now that ppl around the world know we share the same air, pollutants, perhaps we can unite


I am positive dreamer ☺️

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
8. The biggest reason is billionaires - American oligarchs built a propaganda machine
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 10:48 PM
Feb 2018

A propaganda machine - Fox Limbaugh Sinclair Reason WSJ IJR Breitbart Gateway Pundit Wash Times Wash Examiner NY Post Boston Herald - that is designed to get votes for billionaires via hatemongering, fearmongering, and identity politics.


ONLY because that propaganda machine was in place could the Russians pull this off. The Koches, Mercer, and Murdoch are as much as fault as the Russians.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
14. Yes. Blue wave will bring a New Deal II
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 03:25 PM
Feb 2018

As in the 1920s and 30s, today we will:
-Break up monopolies (then: Standard Oil. Today: Google, media cos)
-Stop the oligarchs and robber barons
-Restore honor and power to labor
-And build a real social safety net.



Hopefully we will not need a Depression or a war to do that.

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
15. Wave? USA needs a BLUE TSUNAMI
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 03:53 PM
Feb 2018

Still angry about Max Baucus owning the Health Care debate. That "we will televise" hmmph. that lasted once and the lobbyists owned the health care debate table.

Too many in Congress day trade and amass millions in stocks while "serving" in Congress

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
16. Yup. Get big money out of politics
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 03:54 PM
Feb 2018

Stop oligarchs from controlling American politics. Whether American oligarchs (Koches, Pope, Walton’s, Adelson, Koch network) or Russian oligarchs.

uponit7771

(90,346 posts)
6. That's relatively easy to do, hack the voter roles and micro purge voters like Bush's
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 10:46 PM
Feb 2018

... campaign did in 2000

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
9. Key pt: Russians (and GOP) hacked minds with propaganda
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 10:49 PM
Feb 2018

They aimed to suppress African American turnout in PA. Those AA voters would have voted for McGinty and against Toomey.


Gorsuch is illegitimate.

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
10. Is he really going there?
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 10:51 PM
Feb 2018

Is Mueller going so far as to bring down the compromised Republican machine? If so, he needs to root out the traitorous right wing media. No way they are not in on this too.

Hugin

(33,154 posts)
17. I knew something was up in 2014 when the Reprobates won every single race they needed to.
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 04:06 PM
Feb 2018

EVERY SINGLE RACE.

I couldn't believe it and still can't. Then it repeated in 2016 including Trump slithering in to office.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
18. Outcomes can never be certain
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 04:14 PM
Feb 2018

But we now know the Russians influenced the Senate too.

Pat Toomey, who wrote the terrible healthcare and tax cut bills, may well have been defeated without Russian voter suppression in PA. That’s a huge deal! He’s illegitimate and so are Gorsuch and this tax giveaway to billionaires.

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