Listening to NYT "The Daily" - that voice - it's Dubya! he sounds like a genius compared to

[NRaleighLiberal]

you know who.

Dubya - horrible president. Horrendous administration. No forgetting, no forgiveness.

And - trump somehow manages to lower the bar.

Incredible.

today's republicans - breeding ground for unabashed ignorance and stupidity.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

1. This isn't going to be popular but I don't think Bush was a fundamentally bad guy.

I believe Trump is.

[NRaleighLiberal]

2. It's a fair point.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

3. To me a bad guy is someone who deliberately stirs up conflict in the community.

Proverbs 6:16-19 New International Version
16 There are six things the Lord hates,
seven that are detestable to him:
17 haughty eyes,
a lying tongue,
hands that shed innocent blood,
18 a heart that devises wicked schemes,
feet that are quick to rush into evil,
19 a false witness who pours out lies
and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.

I believe Trump wants us to hate one another.

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4. i think shrub was a very weak person who grew up in a bad family

at best, he had nowhere near what it took to stand up to any other people around him, be it his parents or cheney or whoever.

i'll allow that he's the sort of person who might have turned out to be a decent person had he been surrounded with decent people. but he's the sort of person who's content to be a rotten sh*t if that's what it takes to fit in with the crowd you're in.

but yeah, there's probably a piece of him that would rather have peace and harmony in the world. he just couldn't be bothered to do anything to achieve that beyond that stupid "compassionate conservatism" branding.

he does look like a saint compared to donnie, who appears not to have a compassionate bone in his body.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

5. He raised two wonderful and open minded daughters,

Compare Jenna and Laura to the Trump spawn.

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7. low bar, but yeah, they seem decent enough.

[janterry]

6. No, it's true

He cares about the country - and has genuine empathy.

Trump is just an evil person. devoid of morals.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

8. It might seem like a paradox but I believe empathy and strength ...

It might seem like a paradox but I believe empathy and strength are thr two most important characteristics in a leader.

[bronxiteforever]

9. I agree.