Why the government shutdown might last longer than you think

[brooklynite]

Chris Cilliza:

The conventional wisdom -- even as senators flailed and failed to find a deal to keep the government open late Friday night and Saturday -- was that this would all be over soon.

The disagreements were real between the two parties, but the desire to look competent in the eyes of the public would bring warring lawmakers to the table. If the Senate only had a few more hours after the midnight Friday shutdown, they would have made a deal!

And, they still might! After all, the relative pain -- politically and in real-world terms -- of a government shutdown doesn't truly kick in until Monday when everyone goes back to work. Which makes Sunday a critical day for all sides involved in the shutdown. (The next scheduled vote in the Senate on the current four-week continuing resolution is Monday at 1 a.m. ET.)

But despite all of the assertions that a deal is in the offing, there isn't a deal yet. And the three-week continuing resolution that Sen. Lindsey Graham proposed late Friday night, which was seen by Republicans as the vehicle to end the shutdown, appears -- at least as of this writing -- to be dead in the water.

My wife is supposed to go to DC in a week for a meeting with the IRS.

or not...

[Hugin]

1. Or it could be over suddenly when McPushover invokes the nuke option, yet again.

Alas, now we know what the brain trust was scheming at Camp David... And, the dried apple turned Senator got to model his Grandma Jeans.

[GaryCnf]

2. They don't have 50 GOP votes.

5 Republicans voted against the CR.

[Hugin]

4. I didn't say it would be successful. They will end the super-majority rule anyway.

For a number of reasons...

For instance:

It would continue the year long stream of distractions.
It keeps the a le in the WH at the center of attention, which is all he cares about.
They can use the precedent to break other stuff, later.

and etc.

[GaryCnf]

5. Agree, in part

They probably will, sooner or later, just not here. The House version of the CR is political poison in purple states and among deficit hawks like Paul.

[brooklynite]

6. They dont have the votes to change the Senate rules...

[Hugin]

7. Rules? Rules! They only seem to apply to Democrats these days.

Not to these Bozos.

[brooklynite]

8. Why then haven't they done it already?

Why did they go through all the aggravation of using reconciliation to try and pass ACA repeal?

[Hugin]

9. Maybe it's because lurking there deep down in McSpineless there is a grain of doubt...

that the one party nation they've created by partially invoking the nuke option already to install Gosuck to the SCOTUS is not permanent.

Things could still go bad for them.

To insure their Reich they need to break the Democratic hold on California and make gerrymandering and voter suppression the law of the land.

However, the Trumpanzees are not patient enough for a gradual follow through and are rushing things to feed their crazy irrational base.

But, appease this bloated orange and his minions, they ultimately will.

[Gabi Hayes]

3. They cant ignore the part about not paying the soldiers, but, then, again:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210126374