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EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 12:22 PM Jan 2018

Taking bets on when Trump's going to come out and just say "nigger" in front of the wrong person

Last edited Tue Jan 16, 2018, 01:51 PM - Edit history (1)

He probably says it all the time when he thinks only the right people can hear him. But he's so undisciplined, he's eventually going to slip up and say it in front of someone who's not going to think it's OK.

When do y'all think that will happen? I think it will be within the next 6 months - 3 months if he gets much more spun up than he is now.

Note: I realize that spelling out the word may make some uncomfortable. But I think using "the n-word" euphemism tends to minimize it - sometimes it just needs to be said.

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Taking bets on when Trump's going to come out and just say "nigger" in front of the wrong person (Original Post) EffieBlack Jan 2018 OP
Is this really necessary? There are enough real issues without resorting to a strawman like this n/t SFnomad Jan 2018 #1
He's done everything but... DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2018 #13
Precisely my point SFnomad Jan 2018 #17
why not ponder it now? CatWoman Jan 2018 #22
Applying your sentiment consistently, we should avoid discussing potential war with NK as well. LanternWaste Jan 2018 #24
Maybe all the REAL insanity is just not enough HopeAgain Jan 2018 #53
As soon as he meets the new sheriff of Rock Ridge Pope George Ringo II Jan 2018 #2
lol ... the Sheriff is near !!! uponit7771 Jan 2018 #8
LMAO underpants Jan 2018 #9
LOL CatWoman Jan 2018 #23
🙃 underpants Jan 2018 #42
.... CatWoman Jan 2018 #25
Those are all definitely funnier, but you've got to have a Trump surrogate in the scene: Pope George Ringo II Jan 2018 #29
It will happen. What has he got, other than stretching good taste norms? Paladin Jan 2018 #3
I really think you need to "n-word" that. Its going to derail your OP ..... marble falls Jan 2018 #4
Is using the n word on DU really how you want to be googled? Consider irisblue Jan 2018 #5
Yeah! Some of use Bing! Generic Brad Jan 2018 #45
I'd forgotten Bing. irisblue Jan 2018 #47
people actual use Bing, on purpose? snooper2 Jan 2018 #57
focus on the content not the form JustAnotherGen Jan 2018 #6
This week, he's a racist uponit7771 Jan 2018 #7
I think his go-to wording is "the blacks" rather than the n-word. Remember, he tblue37 Jan 2018 #10
You make a good point. NCTraveler Jan 2018 #30
My bro Cartoonist Jan 2018 #55
Before midterms Runningdawg Jan 2018 #11
Is he sceduled to visit the nation of Niger anytime soon. Kaleva Jan 2018 #12
Within 3 months mcar Jan 2018 #14
UnRec leftstreet Jan 2018 #15
Aren't there supposed to be tapes hauckeye Jan 2018 #16
I would bet my ass that he and Sessions throw that word around all the time. BigDemVoter Jan 2018 #18
I am not being overly sensitive but I don't really appreciate seeing this word anywhere... SWBTATTReg Jan 2018 #19
Youre welcome to hide it EffieBlack Jan 2018 #20
so you're baiting us, eh? really nice... SWBTATTReg Jan 2018 #35
Why would you think I was baiting you or anyone? EffieBlack Jan 2018 #36
I'm not sure when, but I think we know the GOP response CakeGrrl Jan 2018 #21
You are probably right. EffieBlack Jan 2018 #27
I would not take that bet Gothmog Jan 2018 #26
What do you want to be that when he does it will be referencing a white person he hates? nt. NCTraveler Jan 2018 #28
didnt he already (allegedly) during the apprentice tapings AlexSFCA Jan 2018 #31
African-Americans would go crazy if they saw those Apprentice tapes bathroommonkey76 Jan 2018 #33
He is hanging around with Miller a lot seems the guy is writing his speeches so not long lunasun Jan 2018 #32
On your... Mike Nelson Jan 2018 #34
If people are going to ignore the substance of my post because they are so offended EffieBlack Jan 2018 #39
no idea when that's going to happen, but now we know how long it will take to deny it happened 0rganism Jan 2018 #37
It's only a matter of time. Behind the Aegis Jan 2018 #38
Thanks EffieBlack Jan 2018 #40
The excuses... Behind the Aegis Jan 2018 #41
but it's in all of your music... and.. and... you say it... why can't I say it.. its' just a word.. Afromania Jan 2018 #54
This! +1 infidel621 Jan 2018 #50
Is there a right person? Barack_America Jan 2018 #43
Yes EffieBlack Jan 2018 #44
Ideally during the SOTU dflprincess Jan 2018 #46
I've wondered the exact same thing Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2018 #48
Of course they'll use that excuse ... EffieBlack Jan 2018 #49
... and, I appointed a black man to my Cabinet. (He said nice things about me) NCjack Jan 2018 #52
IMHO he, and his people, are saying it low key everytime "black/blacks" is used. Afromania Jan 2018 #51
Oh... sheshe2 Jan 2018 #56
 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
1. Is this really necessary? There are enough real issues without resorting to a strawman like this n/t
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 12:27 PM
Jan 2018
 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
17. Precisely my point
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 01:24 PM
Jan 2018

If he does it, deal with it then, no need to ponder it now. There are more than enough things that he has actually done to be outraged over without dropping the nuclear n-bomb and pondering if and when he might say it. This is just unnecessary inflammatory click-bait.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
24. Applying your sentiment consistently, we should avoid discussing potential war with NK as well.
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 03:44 PM
Jan 2018

You may call it "unnecessary inflammatory click-bait," while others may just as validly call it a probable potential.

Applying your sentiment consistently, we should avoid discussing potential war with NK as well.
(spot provided free of charge below for insertion of distinction lacking a relevant difference)

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
53. Maybe all the REAL insanity is just not enough
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 01:01 PM
Jan 2018

to obsess over? I'm with you, there is no need to add more "what-if's" to the "WTFs" we already have.

underpants

(182,803 posts)
9. LMAO
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 12:54 PM
Jan 2018

Bart: Are we awake? .

Jim the Waco Kid: We're not sure. Are we...black?

Bart: Yes we are.

Jim the Waco Kid: Then we're awake. But we're very puzzled

Paladin

(28,257 posts)
3. It will happen. What has he got, other than stretching good taste norms?
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 12:34 PM
Jan 2018

I'd say 3 months is a reasonable timeframe. Dems need to start carrying recording devices to every meeting they have with him.

marble falls

(57,081 posts)
4. I really think you need to "n-word" that. Its going to derail your OP .....
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 12:34 PM
Jan 2018

I do agree with the OP. Its only a matter of time.

JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
6. focus on the content not the form
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 12:37 PM
Jan 2018


Soon - very soon. If not, someone probably has it on tape from within the past year. It's a strawman - it's what we 'know'.

tblue37

(65,343 posts)
10. I think his go-to wording is "the blacks" rather than the n-word. Remember, he
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 01:01 PM
Jan 2018

used it in interviews, i.e., "The blacks love me," and it was even part of the joke when he was on SNL during the campaign.

I do think he has Alzheimer's, so his control will keep deteriorating, but my guess is that he long ago chose to use "the blacks" as his preferred racial slur, and that is what will come out in public or to the wrong person more, not the n-word.

Cartoonist

(7,316 posts)
55. My bro
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 01:10 PM
Jan 2018

My racist brother has no problem saying n-. What puzzles me is that he uses the word Hispanic instead of a slur when talking about Mexicans. Of course, he always speaks it venomously.

Runningdawg

(4,516 posts)
11. Before midterms
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 01:12 PM
Jan 2018

Not so sure it will be the slur suggested in the OP, with DACA at the forefront currently. So many possible slurs, so little time to appease the base.

hauckeye

(635 posts)
16. Aren't there supposed to be tapes
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 01:22 PM
Jan 2018

of Trump spewing that word during the Apprentice? No one has leaked those tapes though.

SWBTATTReg

(22,124 posts)
19. I am not being overly sensitive but I don't really appreciate seeing this word anywhere...
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 01:31 PM
Jan 2018

even when speculating...w/ tRUMP, I think that you can make a very safe assumption that he's already used this derogatory word many times...

most of us are intelligent enough to know this already...

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
20. Youre welcome to hide it
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 03:19 PM
Jan 2018

As I noted, spelling out the word in some instances is a choice I’ve made. I understand that it makes some people uncomfortable - I don’t know your race, but in my experience, in general, whites tend to be more uncomfortable with it than blacks.

The word is reprehensible, but it also must be viewed in context. It doesn’t offend me to see it in quotes or to see or hear it when it’s used as part of a discussion - as President Obama did a few years ago to the consternation of many (again, mostly white). I instinctively know the difference between the word being used in a discussion and being used to insult and demean a black person.

The only time I say “n-word” is when talking about the slur with white people in order to keep them from cringing.The black people I know don’t ever use “the n-word” when discussing it amongst ourselves-we just say it. But I’ve chosen to say it when discussing it - and after 5 days of listening to everyone and her mother say “shithole” all over the airwaves, in newspapers, and online, I think we can manage to occasionally survive hearing a racial epithet used in a non-derogatory way.

SWBTATTReg

(22,124 posts)
35. so you're baiting us, eh? really nice...
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 04:18 PM
Jan 2018

My good black friends use this word occasionally in their discussions w/ each other...and we've all talked about it. It's acceptable amongst themselves, just like when gays talk amongst themselves and call each other 'you queen!' etc. It totally depends on the group of friends you're with and how the verbiage is used. In these cases there is no intent to harm and all know it.

I just don't like this word period because it's wrong to use. I'm not to hide my distaste for this word. Period.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
36. Why would you think I was baiting you or anyone?
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 04:47 PM
Jan 2018

Did you realize that the "n-word" euphemism only came into vogue in 1995 during the OJ Simpson trial when the media had to report on Mark Furhman's use of racial slurs and the word couldn't be said on television.

There's a difference between black people using the word amongst ourselves in a pejorative way (even jokingly) and using it while discussing the use of the word.

If I'm discussing the use of the word, I'm likely going to say/write it, whether -I'm talking to a white person or a black person. That's not baiting. I assume most intelligent white people are mature enough not to get the vapors when they read the word in quotes and in a context that's clear is not insulting or an attack.

CakeGrrl

(10,611 posts)
21. I'm not sure when, but I think we know the GOP response
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 03:39 PM
Jan 2018

will be exactly as it is to "shithole".

They have NO red line with this president.

When you have your DHS representative claiming not to know if Norway is predominantly white, there's nothing they won't deny to defend him.

It wouldn't surprise me if they doubled down on slavery defense soon.

AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
31. didnt he already (allegedly) during the apprentice tapings
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 03:52 PM
Jan 2018

Hint: it will change absolutely nothing and will embolden his base to new violent highs.

 

bathroommonkey76

(3,827 posts)
33. African-Americans would go crazy if they saw those Apprentice tapes
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 04:04 PM
Jan 2018

And so would most sane Americans.

It's too bad no one has the fuckin balls to release those tapes.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
32. He is hanging around with Miller a lot seems the guy is writing his speeches so not long
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 04:01 PM
Jan 2018

before he is at ease with saying that in a meeting.
WH will say that it's his special way of easing racial tensions by saying it out loud in public or it's what racists say anyway so it's normal let it go

Mike Nelson

(9,955 posts)
34. On your...
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 04:10 PM
Jan 2018

"Note" about the word usage. Since it is offensive to some, I wonder if it limits your audience? I don't use "strong language" in most cases. However, I believe the recent remark by The Donald warrants the exact word, in quotes... Other than that, I thought there might be some outtake tape from his NBC TV show including the "N word" - now would be a good time to make it public!

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
39. If people are going to ignore the substance of my post because they are so offended
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 04:53 PM
Jan 2018

by my use of the very word the entire post is about, we'll ...

0rganism

(23,953 posts)
37. no idea when that's going to happen, but now we know how long it will take to deny it happened
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 04:49 PM
Jan 2018

gaslighting time period for racist remarks: 32-48 hours

Behind the Aegis

(53,956 posts)
38. It's only a matter of time.
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 04:51 PM
Jan 2018

Personally, I applaud your use of the word in your title. Too many people have become desensitized to the word, and, IMO, go overboard with the euphemisms. It is as if they say to themselves, "I can't use the real word, let's see how many times I can use a euphemism...it is almost as good, and I don't get called "racist"."

As to your question, yes, I think a "hot mic" episode is in the near future. The big question is how will reThugs react to it. Of course, there will be the predictable "white wave" of white folks falling all over themselves to express their outrage and show off their "I am not a racist" credentials.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
40. Thanks
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 04:55 PM
Jan 2018

I agree it's only a matter of time. And I agree that, even if he comes out and says it, plenty of white folk will try to come uup with a way to defend him.

Behind the Aegis

(53,956 posts)
41. The excuses...
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 05:02 PM
Jan 2018

His age. "That is just the way people back then spoke. It was a slip to an earlier time"
Set-up. "So and so set him up by making him angry."
Set up (2). "The democrats planned this after the "shithole" comments in order to make this president look bad."
Hot mic/Privacy. "People are entitled to their own thoughts and opinions and this was spoken in a private moment."
Context. "The comment was taken out of context because he was talking about "such and such" and how not to discuss blacks."

Talking points. That's more tricky, but the one you know they will all peddle: "He's not a racist! FAKE NEWS!"

Afromania

(2,768 posts)
54. but it's in all of your music... and.. and... you say it... why can't I say it.. its' just a word..
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 01:07 PM
Jan 2018

Every excuse in the book will be used.

infidel621

(36 posts)
50. This! +1
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 12:52 PM
Jan 2018

I know I'm in the minority in this but it's just a word. Abhorrent historical definition? Yes but still just a damn word.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
44. Yes
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 11:51 PM
Jan 2018

The right people are those who agree with Trump's racist views or who at least don't mind his use of racial slurs. The wrong person is one who not only objects but will walk out of the room and put him on blast, e.g., Dick Durbin.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
48. I've wondered the exact same thing
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 12:52 AM
Jan 2018

...and how soon we'll get some version of "well rappers use that word all the time" as an excuse.

Afromania

(2,768 posts)
51. IMHO he, and his people, are saying it low key everytime "black/blacks" is used.
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 12:58 PM
Jan 2018

As to when the facade will drop, don't know. Going to go with fairly soon and when, not if, it happens I won't even be shocked enough to be mad about it. Just gonna go "yup" and wait for his supporters and the inevitable pretzel twists Followed by a double down and then the next bit of insanity that pushes it off the front pages.

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