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He probably says it all the time when he thinks only the right people can hear him. But he's so undisciplined, he's eventually going to slip up and say it in front of someone who's not going to think it's OK.
When do y'all think that will happen? I think it will be within the next 6 months - 3 months if he gets much more spun up than he is now.
Note: I realize that spelling out the word may make some uncomfortable. But I think using "the n-word" euphemism tends to minimize it - sometimes it just needs to be said.
SFnomad
(3,473 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)SFnomad
(3,473 posts)If he does it, deal with it then, no need to ponder it now. There are more than enough things that he has actually done to be outraged over without dropping the nuclear n-bomb and pondering if and when he might say it. This is just unnecessary inflammatory click-bait.
CatWoman
(79,302 posts)it's not as if there's not a 99.999999 chance of it happening.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)You may call it "unnecessary inflammatory click-bait," while others may just as validly call it a probable potential.
Applying your sentiment consistently, we should avoid discussing potential war with NK as well.
(spot provided free of charge below for insertion of distinction lacking a relevant difference)
HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)to obsess over? I'm with you, there is no need to add more "what-if's" to the "WTFs" we already have.
Pope George Ringo II
(1,896 posts)"Have you gone berserk? Can't you see that man is a ni--"
uponit7771
(90,336 posts)underpants
(182,803 posts)Bart: Are we awake? .
Jim the Waco Kid: We're not sure. Are we...black?
Bart: Yes we are.
Jim the Waco Kid: Then we're awake. But we're very puzzled
Leave it to you!!!!
Now I can't get that scene out of my head
CatWoman
(79,302 posts)Pope George Ringo II
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|Paladin
(28,257 posts)I'd say 3 months is a reasonable timeframe. Dems need to start carrying recording devices to every meeting they have with him.
marble falls
(57,081 posts)I do agree with the OP. Its only a matter of time.
irisblue
(32,974 posts)We're better then that.
Generic Brad
(14,275 posts)irisblue
(32,974 posts)snooper2
(30,151 posts)Shit, learned something new today
JustAnotherGen
(31,823 posts)Soon - very soon. If not, someone probably has it on tape from within the past year. It's a strawman - it's what we 'know'.
uponit7771
(90,336 posts)tblue37
(65,343 posts)used it in interviews, i.e., "The blacks love me," and it was even part of the joke when he was on SNL during the campaign.
I do think he has Alzheimer's, so his control will keep deteriorating, but my guess is that he long ago chose to use "the blacks" as his preferred racial slur, and that is what will come out in public or to the wrong person more, not the n-word.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)He has already become accustom to using his own term.
Cartoonist
(7,316 posts)My racist brother has no problem saying n-. What puzzles me is that he uses the word Hispanic instead of a slur when talking about Mexicans. Of course, he always speaks it venomously.
Runningdawg
(4,516 posts)Not so sure it will be the slur suggested in the OP, with DACA at the forefront currently. So many possible slurs, so little time to appease the base.
Kaleva
(36,299 posts)mcar
(42,329 posts)Is my bet.
leftstreet
(36,108 posts)hauckeye
(635 posts)of Trump spewing that word during the Apprentice? No one has leaked those tapes though.
BigDemVoter
(4,150 posts)SWBTATTReg
(22,124 posts)even when speculating...w/ tRUMP, I think that you can make a very safe assumption that he's already used this derogatory word many times...
most of us are intelligent enough to know this already...
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)As I noted, spelling out the word in some instances is a choice Ive made. I understand that it makes some people uncomfortable - I dont know your race, but in my experience, in general, whites tend to be more uncomfortable with it than blacks.
The word is reprehensible, but it also must be viewed in context. It doesnt offend me to see it in quotes or to see or hear it when its used as part of a discussion - as President Obama did a few years ago to the consternation of many (again, mostly white). I instinctively know the difference between the word being used in a discussion and being used to insult and demean a black person.
The only time I say n-word is when talking about the slur with white people in order to keep them from cringing.The black people I know dont ever use the n-word when discussing it amongst ourselves-we just say it. But Ive chosen to say it when discussing it - and after 5 days of listening to everyone and her mother say shithole all over the airwaves, in newspapers, and online, I think we can manage to occasionally survive hearing a racial epithet used in a non-derogatory way.
SWBTATTReg
(22,124 posts)My good black friends use this word occasionally in their discussions w/ each other...and we've all talked about it. It's acceptable amongst themselves, just like when gays talk amongst themselves and call each other 'you queen!' etc. It totally depends on the group of friends you're with and how the verbiage is used. In these cases there is no intent to harm and all know it.
I just don't like this word period because it's wrong to use. I'm not to hide my distaste for this word. Period.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)Did you realize that the "n-word" euphemism only came into vogue in 1995 during the OJ Simpson trial when the media had to report on Mark Furhman's use of racial slurs and the word couldn't be said on television.
There's a difference between black people using the word amongst ourselves in a pejorative way (even jokingly) and using it while discussing the use of the word.
If I'm discussing the use of the word, I'm likely going to say/write it, whether -I'm talking to a white person or a black person. That's not baiting. I assume most intelligent white people are mature enough not to get the vapors when they read the word in quotes and in a context that's clear is not insulting or an attack.
CakeGrrl
(10,611 posts)will be exactly as it is to "shithole".
They have NO red line with this president.
When you have your DHS representative claiming not to know if Norway is predominantly white, there's nothing they won't deny to defend him.
It wouldn't surprise me if they doubled down on slavery defense soon.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)Gothmog
(145,231 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)Hint: it will change absolutely nothing and will embolden his base to new violent highs.
bathroommonkey76
(3,827 posts)And so would most sane Americans.
It's too bad no one has the fuckin balls to release those tapes.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)before he is at ease with saying that in a meeting.
WH will say that it's his special way of easing racial tensions by saying it out loud in public or it's what racists say anyway so it's normal let it go
Mike Nelson
(9,955 posts)"Note" about the word usage. Since it is offensive to some, I wonder if it limits your audience? I don't use "strong language" in most cases. However, I believe the recent remark by The Donald warrants the exact word, in quotes... Other than that, I thought there might be some outtake tape from his NBC TV show including the "N word" - now would be a good time to make it public!
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)by my use of the very word the entire post is about, we'll ...
0rganism
(23,953 posts)gaslighting time period for racist remarks: 32-48 hours
Behind the Aegis
(53,956 posts)Personally, I applaud your use of the word in your title. Too many people have become desensitized to the word, and, IMO, go overboard with the euphemisms. It is as if they say to themselves, "I can't use the real word, let's see how many times I can use a euphemism...it is almost as good, and I don't get called "racist"."
As to your question, yes, I think a "hot mic" episode is in the near future. The big question is how will reThugs react to it. Of course, there will be the predictable "white wave" of white folks falling all over themselves to express their outrage and show off their "I am not a racist" credentials.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)I agree it's only a matter of time. And I agree that, even if he comes out and says it, plenty of white folk will try to come uup with a way to defend him.
Behind the Aegis
(53,956 posts)His age. "That is just the way people back then spoke. It was a slip to an earlier time"
Set-up. "So and so set him up by making him angry."
Set up (2). "The democrats planned this after the "shithole" comments in order to make this president look bad."
Hot mic/Privacy. "People are entitled to their own thoughts and opinions and this was spoken in a private moment."
Context. "The comment was taken out of context because he was talking about "such and such" and how not to discuss blacks."
Talking points. That's more tricky, but the one you know they will all peddle: "He's not a racist! FAKE NEWS!"
Afromania
(2,768 posts)Every excuse in the book will be used.
infidel621
(36 posts)I know I'm in the minority in this but it's just a word. Abhorrent historical definition? Yes but still just a damn word.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)The right people are those who agree with Trump's racist views or who at least don't mind his use of racial slurs. The wrong person is one who not only objects but will walk out of the room and put him on blast, e.g., Dick Durbin.
dflprincess
(28,076 posts)There would be no way it could be denied then. (Not that they wouldn't try.)
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,790 posts)...and how soon we'll get some version of "well rappers use that word all the time" as an excuse.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)NCjack
(10,279 posts)Afromania
(2,768 posts)As to when the facade will drop, don't know. Going to go with fairly soon and when, not if, it happens I won't even be shocked enough to be mad about it. Just gonna go "yup" and wait for his supporters and the inevitable pretzel twists Followed by a double down and then the next bit of insanity that pushes it off the front pages.
sheshe2
(83,758 posts)I doubt we will have to wait 3-6 months. I predict it will be much sooner than that.