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Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
1. Agree. But the counter argument is that is keeps a few large states -- that might be warped --
Sat Jan 13, 2018, 12:20 PM
Jan 2018

from imposing their will on the rest of the country. There is some logic in that, but clearly we would have been better off in 2016 without the electoral college. The key is to get out the vote where the EC is irrelevant.

genxlib

(5,554 posts)
4. Whenever I hear this argument...
Sat Jan 13, 2018, 12:37 PM
Jan 2018

"Big States will have too much power"

My response is this "You mean where the actual voters live?"

A place with more people should have more power.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
7. Depends on who is wielding power. A bunch o Texas like White Wing states could be a problem.
Sat Jan 13, 2018, 03:46 PM
Jan 2018

Things change. That's why Pennsylvania and Wisdom went for trump.

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
10. My response to my co workers who constantly says that is..
Sat Jan 13, 2018, 04:08 PM
Jan 2018

What about my Democrat vote in this ruby red state? He said Alabama votes would be useless without the electoral college.... well my Democrat vote is already useless. That argument burns me up. The electoral college needs to go.

Control-Z

(15,683 posts)
6. You first.
Sat Jan 13, 2018, 12:42 PM
Jan 2018

My daughter spent a year there one month shooting a film. She took turns with her design partner crying on the others shoulder about how badly they wanted to be home.

Unless something has changed since they were there I'll leave the populating of Wyoming up to braver souls. Lol.

roamer65

(36,752 posts)
11. Just give Dump another 10 months.
Sat Jan 13, 2018, 04:35 PM
Jan 2018

Even Wyoming may go blue.

Everything he touches, dies...including the Repuke Party.

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
3. Absolutely!
Sat Jan 13, 2018, 12:28 PM
Jan 2018

We go around the world scolding, chastising, berating other countries for not being democratic enough, and then we hang on to the long outdated electoral college.

Individuals who live in populous states like California, New York, Texas and Florida are not equal when it comes to electing our president to individuals who live in Montana.

The electoral college is an anachronism we can no longer accept.

Do away with the electoral college. Amend the Constitution.

And while we are at it, let's make it very clear that corporations are not people, not persons in the eyes of the law. Nor are other organizational forms like partnerships or LLCs, etc. Only human beings are persons.

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
9. Be careful..
Sat Jan 13, 2018, 04:03 PM
Jan 2018

I've found that if you bring up the inadequate representation being unfair to those living there, people get pissed off.

SwissTony

(2,560 posts)
15. I'm not surprised that you guys have similar jokes to us Aussies.
Sat Jan 13, 2018, 05:14 PM
Jan 2018

New Zealand...where men are men...and sheep are nervous.

I believe our Kiwi friends tell the same jokes about us. But that's just baaaaaaaaddd!

Brother Buzz

(36,558 posts)
17. Actually I heard the joke from a Kiwi
Sat Jan 13, 2018, 05:44 PM
Jan 2018

And he told me a cool story about how his silver tongued grandfather traveled to Australia to woo a wife, telling her he owned a station. Well, when she arrived in New Zealand, she discovered he was a lowly milker at a dairy. They didn't talk after that, but they did manage to have eleven children.


X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
8. We are a union of states- it's in the name, fer fuck's sake
Sat Jan 13, 2018, 03:50 PM
Jan 2018

That's why the electoral college is based on both representation as well as statehood.



L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
16. WY 258,788 votes, CA 14,237,884
Sat Jan 13, 2018, 05:18 PM
Jan 2018

CA has 53 reps, WY has one. CA has 55 times as many votes. The number of senators skews it to 55 : 3. That's still not 3.6x.

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