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A shithole question: (Original Post) Chasstev365 Jan 2018 OP
If that's what it takes to prevent good kids from being deported by racists, I'm OK with it. Hoyt Jan 2018 #1
Hope you are correct! Chasstev365 Jan 2018 #3
The Democrats have no power oberliner Jan 2018 #2
Where would you draw that line? n/t theaocp Jan 2018 #5
Good question oberliner Jan 2018 #6
For starters customerserviceguy Jan 2018 #4


(54,770 posts)
1. If that's what it takes to prevent good kids from being deported by racists, I'm OK with it.
Sat Jan 13, 2018, 10:22 AM
Jan 2018

I'm betting the wall will never get built except in a few places for show.



(58,724 posts)
6. Good question
Sat Jan 13, 2018, 11:07 AM
Jan 2018

I wonder if there isn't some strategic value in securing a deal for DACA and agreeing to some funding for "border security" in return.


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4. For starters
Sat Jan 13, 2018, 11:06 AM
Jan 2018

it was only a few Democratic Senators, not the entire caucus. Also, it is easy to see that there will be no DACA deal unless the GOP gets something it wants. A so-called "clean" DACA is a complete fantasy with the current composition of the Federal government's legislative and executive branches. And while San Francisco judges can temporarily make law, I don't think that the Supreme Court as it is currently constituted will back that up in the end game.

We are headed for one of two things, either enough Democratic legislators jump on to a continuing resolution or some other such mechanism of funding the government, or a shutdown, all without a DACA deal. I would venture to guess that a government shutdown will be worse for our side in the long run. A well-off Republican voter can live off of savings while waiting for the Social Security office to reopen to file a claim for benefits, whereas a person who is financially barely able to limp in to their 62nd birthday doesn't have that luxury.

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