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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsYes Morning Joe Us Dems Are Condescending
We don't respect ignorant racist Fox News watching imbeciles who's worldview is gimme more even if you have to kill others to do it. We don't respect fools.
We are not condescending enough Joe.
eShirl
(18,722 posts)pressbox69
(2,252 posts)Cosmocat
(14,894 posts)and they are snowflakes that need safe places, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!
Cons go nuts because Bernie wore an expensive winter coat, middle americans we need to kiss their asses!
NewJeffCT
(56,834 posts)they were also upset that Star Wars: The Force Awakens had a black stormtrooper in a universe with 2 foot tall green frog men and 7 foot tall walking carpets...
That the female lead in Mad Max Fury Road drove the story and not Mad Max...
That the cast of Hamilton criticized Mike Pence...
Cosmocat
(14,894 posts)gotta keep them outraged and detached from reality ...
SeaDoo77
(540 posts)Their brains don't work right.
True Blue American
(18,124 posts)Of a Load!
Or Southern Speech. That boy aint right,bless his heart!
SamKnause
(13,721 posts)This is absurd.
This country has been forcefully shoved so far right there is no left.
They had to get their shots in on Bernie.
Bernie would have been the best thing to happen to this country.
Polls show the majority want health care.
Polls show the majority want a living wage.
Polls show the majority want the millionaires (like Joe and Mika) and billionaires
to pay more in taxes.
The masses have no voice or representation.
When someone steps forward to address the situation, with the solutions to these
problems, they are immediately labeled as far left.
Joe and Mika continue to say that rural Americans would not vote for Bernie.
I live in rural America.
I supported Bernie.
When he lost the nomination I voted for Hillary.
Joe and Mika are out of touch, just like those they accuse of the same thing.
samnsara
(18,198 posts)..I might be able to finally get a decent nights sleep.
Cosmocat
(14,894 posts)There is a whole different kind of ugly that would have occurred had Hillary won.
I know people don't get this, but 45 winning was, perhaps temporarily, a bloodless concession to the stupid.
Had she won, people were going to end up dying over the SCJ pick.
Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)In a way, trump winning is a good thing for the country. It is, as you say, a concession to the stupid. However, it has seriously invigorated the left and I expect the next election cycle to be a lot more favorable for us. In the near term we lost, but I think in the next couple of years we will take many steps forward. People are starting to wake up and see how bad the right is for our country. Trump is the exclamation point for that argument.
Had Clinton won, the republicans would have been relentless and she would have had a difficult time getting anything done. The republicans wouldnt be facing the crisis they are facing and things would look very different for the left and their future.
I would have wet my pants if Sanders had won, but Id sure sleep better than I do now if Clinton would be sitting in the Oval Office right now. However, the mean time, that is not the case. We need to take advantage of the situation now and make good of it. Highlight how bad the republicans are and invigorate the left.
The key is the country at large WTFU about republicans/conservatism.
We have seen this cycle now for decades.
Clinton, a moderate democrat, gets elected, the right goes insane and sweeps the first wave of off the hook partisans into the House - Nwet, Santorum, ect. in the first mid terms.
We spend the rest of the 90s with Clinton administering the country from a pragmatic, slightly progressive manner with right wing radio and congress being complete jackasses.
The country was burnt out by it all and elected W, frankly, to shut them up. W was a moron, but not a particularly malicious person as an individual. But, 9-11 came and the next de-evolution of the republican party occurred as the threw away all the focus group tested cute, bullshit talking points, got lazy and demanded whatever they wanted to "keep us safe."
W crashed and burned and the country elected a ... Moderate Democrat and ... The right went insane and the country, for not good reason after they been a disaster, gave them the biggest mid terms sweep in modern history to bring in a wave of completely insane loons.
THEN ... Elected 45.
To my point - we have VERY brief flash points where dems have had control, but Rs throw a shit fit, the country and the country indulges them - each time the end result getting worse.
SO ... It does appear that we will get a course correction in November, but recent history indicates it may be one step forward after 5 steps backward AND preceeding god knows what ...
Cha
(304,066 posts)That's ridiculous. It would be hopeful and intelligent. Hillary would veto all the shit the gd idiots come up with.
True Blue American
(18,124 posts)On Democrats since he left the Republican Party after 2 years of shoving Trump down our throat.
That dog dont hunt,Joe.
Vinca
(50,853 posts)Democrats have provided all the social programs that keep people who are not billionaires afloat. What has the GOP done? Ruined the economy by making the rich richer and the poor poorer. Trump is deregulating clean air, clean water, safe food and everything else that creates a healthy environment. Maybe "poor, rural voters" should check out news sources other than Fox News, Rush and Alex Jones to learn what's really happening in their world.
dem4decades
(11,820 posts)DetlefK
(16,446 posts)People like Obama, the Clintons, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren and Al Franken are distant and aloof elites.
Meanwhile Trump, Paul Ryan, Lindsey Graham, Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich, the Koch-brothers and Sheldon Adelson are salt-of-the-earth guys who know what it's like to come home dirty from a long workday.
Cosmocat
(14,894 posts)His words speaks clearly - CULTURE, CULTURE, CULTURE ...
He is a BIG part of the problem, and this is why I rail on people here who watch him.
They keep their "middle america" people herded by these calls to culture he babbled about during that segment - who cares about health care, getting screwed on the tax bill, them going after SS, Medicare and Medicade - THOSE LIBERAL ELITES ON THE COASTS TALK DOWN TO YOU!
I live amongst them, good people almost universally, but they don't even consider their economic well being for ONE SECOND and vote R all day long because of this $hit ...
n2doc
(47,953 posts)Very little news except RW hate radio in rural areas. It is not a coincidence that blue areas have the most diverse news sources.
NewJeffCT
(56,834 posts)these people don't realize what the government is doing to help them, but they see that they are benefiting black and brown people that live in the cities, so they think Democrats just care about black and brown people and not rural whites. These people in rural areas don't have many sources of news and Fox News, Rush Limbaugh and others tell them one generally consistent story.
It will take many years and a lot of boots on the ground in these rural areas to overcome these biases - it's not Bernie (or whoever) coming in and giving a speech and then leaving. We need state and local Democratic reps to reach out to these areas on a consistent basis and have interaction with the local people to win them over.
In the meantime, Democrats need to make sure that these black and brown voters in the cities don't see their voting rights curtailed even more and get them to turn out in record numbers.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)AM radio (and now the internet) has been telling them that Dems are going to grab his guns, force his wife to get abortions, his son to marry a gay dude and his daughter to get raped by a Black radical from the inner city...
uponit7771
(91,313 posts)loyalsister
(13,390 posts)Options for bankruptcy?
Those were gutted via the ultimate neoliberal bipartisan legislation. Welfare reform in particular benefited corporations by providing a consistent pool of desperate employees.
TEB
(13,630 posts)HAB911
(9,309 posts)samnsara
(18,198 posts)...oprah run in 2020 is a Dem wet dream. WE ARE TOO SMART FOR THAT!
whathehell
(29,621 posts)Joe actually made a lame attemptesterday, using, of all
people, President Obama. I was so angry & incredulous I thought my head would explode.
I felt like saying, yeah, I guess it IS embarrassing when our party's gracious and brilliant President is sandwiched between Two of your Party's Disgraceful Morons - Trump and Bush, the former now replacing the latter as "Worst President Ever", and that said, you would feel a need to try -- however futilely -- to "balance" things.
marble falls
(61,362 posts)Loubee
(169 posts)which is second nature to right-wingers
Paladin
(28,699 posts)Skittles
(157,695 posts)Kimchijeon
(1,606 posts)As nasty as they are, we need to be stronger and more brutal. Thus far they've succeeded by relying on our weak and forgiving nature, until that changes, look forward to more corporate fascism.
Quit being so nicey-nice, the times for that shit are long gone. It is survival of the fittest, no milquetoast bullshit. Crush 'em.