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Another Jesus fraud shoving a bible up everyone's ass while crushing the poor, and the sick.
ret5hd
(21,269 posts)janterry
(4,429 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,834 posts)with him resigning or being indicted/impeached, I think Pence will be an even lamer duck than Ford. Pence will be mortally wounded by association with Trump and he does not have the Trump ability to suck up all the media attention.
yardwork
(63,678 posts)Jarqui
(10,417 posts)reflects on the GOP. He remains in power because they want him to be in power.
The real problem is the GOP and those who control it - not nearly so much the puppet president they install to do their bidding.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)This seem to be void of one. "Pence will be just as bad". What are you talking about?
We can resist Pence too. Bring it on.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)It is always completely void of any discussion involving what would have to happen to end up with Pence as President. As if impeachment or resignation would just be ho hum. It would be an enormous loss of clout for them. The question is posed as if Pence becomes President and nothing else happened.
anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)and hed be resisted at every turn by everyone. Yeah, Paul Ryan may try to squeeze out some more evil legislation but it would be very hard and Pence would face challenges at every turn. Pence could never get elected on his own, and people will find out very quickly how limited and extremely uncharismatic Pence really is if hes ever in this position. Hes a horribly stiff and unnatural public speaker (forget the one debate that Pence was coached for hes a terrible public speaker and dull as a door nail). Hed just be holding a space until the next election.
And yes, Trump is much worse than Pence.
mreilly
(2,120 posts)... I want this fucking, fucking, FUCKING smug little pile of orange feces GONE. I'm sick of seeing his ugly fucking face every day. Sick of having to turn off his raspy old fucking man voice whenever it comes on the TV. Sick of hearing about his latest idiotic screaming little tantrum because the orange toddler must have stayed up past his night-night time.
We can fight Pence the same way we are fighting this fucking orange shitgibbon, but I want the shitgibbon OUT so I don't have to hear about his every fucking move.
And for the record, I don't worry Pence will launch a nuclear war to cover the fact he has a tiny one-inch wee-wee like the worthless shitstain currently squatting in the White House.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,204 posts)get the red out
(13,542 posts)Thank you.
treestar
(82,383 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,204 posts)TrumbBots love the hype and bluster.
He (Pence) is going nowhere.
NewJeffCT
(56,834 posts)I think Pence is politically worse than Trump because he really seems to believe that religious BS. And, he's more competent than Trump (a very low bar to clear!)
However, he also doesn't have that ability to fire up the base of deplorables and to also suck up all the media attention.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,204 posts)He may have crackpot visions, but he is a total dullard.
Nobody gets inspired by that guy.
NewJeffCT
(56,834 posts)when he left office in Indiana, his approval rating was extremely low - in a reliably Republican/red state.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,204 posts)Trump hauled his chestnuts out of the fire.
anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)Paladin
(28,699 posts)For all his downside, Pence has a significant amount of governmental experience, and he appears to be retaining a hold on basic sanity. I say we give him a try, the sooner the better.
GoCubsGo
(32,850 posts)He is caught up in all of this mess, too. He'll be lucky to keep his ass out of prison, let alone get into the White House.
The_REAL_Ecumenist
(783 posts)NightWatcher
(39,353 posts)The_REAL_Ecumenist
(783 posts)than Orange slob. How the hell was he at the head of the "transition team" but didn't know about the emails between the Russians & members of that same team and that's just a start.. DON'T WORRY. He's in SERIOUS trouble.
marble falls
(61,362 posts)much, much worse.
Dump the Trump, Dispense with Pence.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Russia picked Pence for a reason, he's a Putinesque hate monger, anti-gay, die-hard conservative. That makes him another liability to Republicans, just like trump. In that sense, he is just as bad.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,476 posts)And if 2018 goes well, he'll have a hard time getting any of his agenda through.
I don't think he'll be impeached with Trump (Republicans will vouch for him even while they dump Trump), but there will be enough questions lingering about what he knew regarding Russia that it will haunt him in 2020, if he even runs.
Demsrule86
(70,796 posts)Mc Mike
(9,164 posts)IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)He was not a religious loon like Reagan and his descendants and was socially very liberal.
Bradical79
(4,490 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)At the end of the day, the investigation is in place to serve justice, not our desires.
It's not in fact, simply a mechanism to attempt administration change or give advantages to the party in power, despite the GOP having used it as such for 35 years.
That said, no one is arguing Pence will be benevolent or anything other than what he is... another member of the GOP.