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arrestblankfein Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 01:46 PM
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Congrats DU- YOU broke this story! Wisconsin Dems Call For Further Investigation Of 2006 Waukesha
Wisconsin Dems Call For Further Investigation Of 2006 Waukesha County Elections

http://t.co/udyHxwu

I first read about this from a tweet

Did Kathy Nickolaus steal the election for #Wisconsin AG Van Hollen in 2006? http://t.co/A7HVBki #wiunion Sure looks like it!


Looks like no one has a good explanation....

I just love the idea that this recent theft has opened up the floodgates to all of their stolen elections.

Time to fix our election systems...so they will stop fixing our elections!

:applause:
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 01:49 PM
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1. Time to fix our election systems...so they will stop fixing our elections!
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think Donating Member (316 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:04 PM
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2. Amen....
A paper trail is not the toilet paper stuck on the prince's shoe.....
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FredStembottom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 11:37 AM
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54. LOL!
I might have to steal this...... !
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idrahaje Donating Member (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 01:30 PM
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61. could be applied to the economy
:P at least in WI seem to have real Democrats
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arrestblankfein Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:39 PM
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3. Thanks for the recs! How about some kicks?
Seriously DU- keep up the great work!

:applause:

WE can no longer count on the corporate media, WE are the ones we have been waiting for.
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 05:50 PM
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18. All right. Here's a kick...........
For the "investigative journalists" of DU! :)
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:55 PM
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4. Just as Wisconsin has exposed the GOP's anti-union attacks...
Wouldn't it be great if Wisconsin could expose the GOP's vote-rigging illegalities.

One can dream...
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arrestblankfein Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:00 PM
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7. they will-they are!! We are not dreaming.
And Tomorrow Sarah Palin is coming to Wisconsin to celebrate the 2010 'election win'? That ought to really piss some people off into action.
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usafvet65 Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:58 PM
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32. Sarah who.........
......gives a s**t. Is that the has been from Alaska? Oh..oh...that's the one who even the right right wingers are bailing on.
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:55 PM
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5. Kicking...n/t
:kick:
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qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:58 PM
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6. K&R
:hi:
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:03 PM
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8. They call for further investigation....
How formal is this call? Will they contact the GAB? Go to court?

I am awaiting further developments. And I sure as hell hope for some further developments in the Kloppenburg travesty.
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arrestblankfein Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:04 PM
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9. They contacted the GAB. Whether or not they do anything is anyone's guess.
Wisconsin voters better DEMAND the GAB take a look at this.
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:15 PM
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13. They are looking into it...
Yet, when the Daily Kos blogger phoned the Wisconsin Government Accountability Board, he was told, We are aware of it, we are looking into it, and we cannot comment on it. These are hardly comforting words five years after the election in question.

http://blogs.forbes.com/rickungar/2011/04/13/something-...
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arrestblankfein Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:18 PM
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14. apparently the GAB isn't all that alert? trustworthy?
Can they be trusted to oversee the current election fraud and the recount?
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:23 PM
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15. We are not talking about the the Admin. side of GAB - The board consists of 6 exjudges
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 03:25 PM by Ellipsis
http://gab.wi.gov/about/members


I have faith. If somethings hinky it will be brought forward.
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arrestblankfein Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:35 PM
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16. well, let's hope they have an answer to the request shortly
There might even be more. Duers should keep digging.

Feingold thrown out? I don't buy it. Makes me wonder about Alan Grayson too.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 08:58 AM
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48. The Pugs run crooked elections wherever they can can get away with it.
and that is wherever they have a crooked overseer like Kathy Nicholaus meaning just about any pug in her position. Repug and crook are synonymous. It is the only way they can win to perpetuate even bigger crimes on the American people.
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:07 PM
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10. Mackys back in town K&R
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:09 PM
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11. DU scoops MSM again. No surprise.
Conservatives don't want this to come out.

It might make it harder for them to steal elections.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 07:25 PM
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24. Actually, DKos broke the story and FourScore linked to it here.
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arrestblankfein Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 07:36 PM
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25. actually Cieran_WI posted it here themselves
Did you click the link?

I first read about it from a posting by Cieran on DU
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 12:26 AM
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37. Cieran WI posted it here 4/12 at 1:39am -- Kos posted 4/12 at 1:52am. Well done Cieran!
And thanks to you for having Cieran's back. :) This is HUGE news... well done all!! :hi:
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Cieran_WI Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 02:04 AM
Response to Reply #37
39. Thanks for the kind words but I borrowed from another Kossack
at http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/04/11/965994/-Waukes...

It was buried near the end, I just brought it forth into the light :)

I'm working on a follow-up now, stay tuned
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Cieran_WI Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 03:02 AM
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40. Follow-up to my 20,000 extra votes story
Edited on Fri Apr-15-11 03:06 AM by Cieran_WI
Posted on DU
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

And on Daily Kos

It's an analysis of Kathy Nickolaus' explanation that the extra votes were just hand-counted ballots. Please take a thorough look, WI needs your help to get this info out!
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 08:05 AM
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45. Cieran_WI - you asked when the clerk got her job?
1.) County clerk reshapes office in 1st year
Newcomer fights to retain staff and expands public services

I found this on the Brookfield Now local news site (you have to pay for the full article):

"Author: SCOTT WILLIAMS swilliams@journalsentinel.com, Journal Sentinel
Publication: Milwaukee Journal Sentinel (WI)
Publish Date: November 14, 2003
Word Count: 770
Document ID: 0FED54F6EE135ADB


At a time when government elsewhere is retrenching and downsizing, Waukesha County's new county clerk is going against the grain.



Kathy Nickolaus, a newcomer to local politics, has marked her first year in office with a blizzard of ideas for expanding services in an office known for issuing marriage licenses and running elections.


She has renewed passport application services, made sample election ballots available on the Internet."


So it looks like her 1st year was 2003 or there about. Hope this helps.
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 09:15 AM
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49. I feel democracy works best when information is shared anyway.. So here's to ALL...
who take the time to spread the facts, hold elected officials feet to the fire, and insist on accountability. Y'all rock!! Thanks! :toast:

PS: Can't wait to learn more... Wisconsin just may be the tipping point that exposes years of nationwide electronic election fraud. We are not just watching - we are ready to assist in any way we can. Thank you, thank you, thank you! :hi:
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toddwv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:09 PM
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12. R & K
I rec before I kick 'cause I'm a rebel
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:56 PM
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17. FYI - PDF of Tates letter here in this link.
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Lifelong Protester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 06:18 PM
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19. I know it's fantasy, but I want to see ONE perp walk over this, just one
would satisfy my fantasy.

But short of that, how about verifiable paper trails and NO PRIVATE computers used for vote tallies which are to be accepted as "official".
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 12:20 PM
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59. After all the years of reports of election fraud,
I too would like to see someone held accountable. What do these crooks do after they steal an election? They run for a higher office.




According to a recent poll, "Ken Blackwell is the leading GOP contender to run for U.S. Senate from Ohio next year." http://dailycaller.com/2011/03/18/poll-ohio-voters-want... /




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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 07:13 PM
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20. K&R
:kick:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 07:17 PM
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21. K&R. (nt)
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dwilso40641 Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 07:19 PM
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22. Heres my
K&R
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 07:21 PM
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23. Cieran at Daily Kos broke the story.
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arrestblankfein Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 07:37 PM
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26. Cieran_WI is also a Duer who posted it here
:hi:
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 07:41 PM
Response to Reply #26
27. Well then Cieran better clear the record with TPM and Brad Blog because they
are all attributing the break to DKos!
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arrestblankfein Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 07:46 PM
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28. well DKos did NOTHING- that guy is useless
Cieran deserves all the credit :hug:

However DUers should all know, that we are the media now. Our corporate media is useless.

WE are the ones we have been waiting for.



unrelated but not really...
WHO will be the ones to DEMAND they ARREST BLANKFEIN for LYING UNDER OATH? WE ARE!! Please join me.

Remember how passionate republicans were about holding Clinton accountable for lying under oath....about something so very stupid that affected no one??
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Cieran_WI Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 02:00 AM
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38. Not true, I found the gem in another DKos diary from the user yourguide
So I can't claim credit. I just took the gem buried in his diary and broke it to the forefront. I'm currently writing a follow-up on DKos which I'll cross-post here soon... stay tuned. :)
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Zywiec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 08:27 AM
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47. WE are the ones we have been waiting for.
You've been a member for ONE-DAY!

:rofl:

Welcome...
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arrestblankfein Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:46 PM
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29. one more
:kick:

Remember DUers, remain vigilant heh heh
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TxVietVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:47 PM
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30. The conservanazis will be squirming now.
:bounce:
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:02 PM
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31. Perhaps these judges will recall a doctrine they learned at school...
res ipsa loquitur. The numbers speak for themselves. What we have here, miladies and sirs, is a prima facie case. The burden now falls to those who would defend the result which the numbers indict.
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:30 PM
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33. K&R
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:52 PM
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34. State investigating vote irregularities in Waukesha County going back 5 years!
http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politic...
The state's investigation into vote irregularities in Waukesha County will stretch back at least five years, the head of the Government Accountability Board said Thursday.

Questions over vote totals in Waukesha have lingered over the last week, after County Clerk Kathy Nickolaus announced she failed to report more than 14,000 votes from the city of Brookfield in initial vote totals.

The new total gave incumbent Supreme Court Justice David Prosser a lead of about 7,000 votes over challenger JoAnne Kloppenburg in the hotly contested state Supreme Court race. Official results in that race have not yet been announced.

Now questions have emerged over Nickolaus' published vote counts from as far back as the fall of 2006, when there were key statewide elections including races for governor and attorney general.

"This is part of what we're looking into. We have a lot of complaints," said Kevin Kennedy, the director and general counsel for GAB. "It's part of our investigation."

Kennedy said the board's current priority is determining the integrity of numbers reported in this spring's election but added that investigators are reviewing broader questions about Nickolaus and vote counting. Staff members from GAB have been in Waukesha County much of the week, and they were there again on Thursday, Kennedy said.

Additional questions surfaced after Nickolaus posted a note to the clerk's website this week explaining discrepancies between the total ballots cast in several elections and the votes for particular offices. In many cases, the number of votes totaled more than the number of ballots cast.

Hat tip to Brad Blog for this story!
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 12:11 AM
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35. Nickolouse has been paid off. Check her bank accounts too. n/t
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arrestblankfein Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 12:17 AM
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36. hmmmm, maybe someone should call her, and pretend they are Prosser
Ask her if the election is in the bag or what?

These people are not very smart, they would certainly be easy to trick like someone did with Walker and Koch.
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florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 05:01 AM
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41. K and R
:kick:
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 05:43 AM
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42. Our founders would probably hang election thieves.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 05:50 AM
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43. +1
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Search4Justice Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 07:58 AM
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44. K & R
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Jester Messiah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 08:25 AM
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46. Beautiful! Let's see some repugs behind bars! [nt]
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 09:16 AM
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50. I am still very
ignorant about this case. The chief general significance is that very few(if any) official election fixers have been even approached by the term accountability.

When the smoke from the fire has been so thick even the ignorant choke upon it.

When normal due process seems to demand investigation(even though politicians routinely have excepted themselves from that process by writing the legislation).

When outside investigators uncover evidence and even more stimulation for investigation.

At the end of the day is not changing the election results but changing the de facto lawlessness of election processes that only benefits crooks over the voter with some small privileged comfort to incumbent "honest?" Dems.
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BEZERKO Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 09:37 AM
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51. I'm so out of the loop!
But I'm not surprised.
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 10:32 AM
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52. And some DUers wanted to give up before the first stone was turned.
I say if this keeps up nationwide you will find a pattern.

My redneck Va governor "got" about 60% the votes as McCain did yet I was one of the few at the polls when I went. Where did all those people swarming to the polls to vote for him like they did for McCain (but still lost!) go?

McCain 1,726,053


confederacy lovin' gubner 1,163,523

Ready for the kicker?

I FREAKING LIVE IN McDonnell land. His strong area with almost zip turnout!
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 11:15 AM
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53. So what happens
If we find out she did alter the results of the AG election? Does that open up cases he prosecuted to the possibility of retrial? Does he get kicked out of office immediately and there is another election?

It seems fairly unprecedented to discover election fraud this late after someone has been in office this long - or maybe I'm unaware of it happening before.

At the very least, I have no doubt this woman would need to be put in jail, because it would be a tremendous waste of funds if the state ends up having to retry a bunch of cases because she couldn't keep her hands off the votes.

She's supposedly a rabid anti-abortion activist, and an Attorney General and a Supreme Court Justice would be two positions she would definitely want to have Republicans in.

It's pretty incredible that they could have turnout of 97.3%, or hell, really anything much over 90%. Countries with mandatory voting don't even get that high.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 12:15 PM
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55. Are we assuming that Walker's win is in question?
I remember saying WTF? when Walker won in WI. It made absolutely no sense.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 12:15 PM
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56. This non-story broke on DailyKos
Mon Apr 11, 2011 at 08:05 PM PDT
(updated) Waukesha voting irregularities go back to 2004...
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/04/11/965994/-Waukes...

And, the State Dems story just broke, in the Wisconsin media.

Tweets are not stories nor are they reliable news, they are not intended as factual statements even, it seems!

Actually, there is an explanation, and that story broke some time ago.

What theft? What stolen elections do you refer to?

Or, is all this not intended to be a factual post?
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 12:17 PM
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57. UN REC because this post is not intended to be a factual statement.
Wow, what a bunch of factless suckers on DU!
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 12:20 PM
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58. Thank you!
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 01:17 PM
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60. Recing and kicking
SERIOUS voting change with genuine paper trails are a MUST. Some things can not be trusted to the "computer age" - no matter WHAT the supposed "guarantees".
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