Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Kloppenburg stole the election.

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU
 
Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 11:58 AM
Original message
Kloppenburg stole the election.
The Koch brothers, the US Chamber of Commerce, Wisconsin Manufacturers & Commerce, and several other interested parties bought and paid for this election. It cost them millions. It belongs to them. If you take something that doesn't belong to you, that's theft.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 11:59 AM
Response to Original message
1. Haha, I think you just gave FReeperland their next lede...n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 12:00 PM
Response to Original message
2. You just earned a big REC!
I'm declaring the winner in Wisconsin Supreme Court race
Tue Apr-05-11 07:35 PM PST
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 12:00 PM
Response to Original message
3. he bought it fair and square
he has the receipt from Koch.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:12 PM
Response to Reply #3
58. Prosser should get the receipt from the Koch brothers and submit it to the courts.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 12:00 PM
Response to Original message
4. LOL - talking about slashing entitlements.
:D
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 12:00 PM
Response to Original message
5. That's what the GOP said about President Obama and ACORN too
Democrats aren't SUPPOSED to ever be elected POTUS. When they do, it's always some kind of "fluke" or aberration or fraudulent outcome. :eyes:

:sarcasm:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 12:14 PM
Response to Reply #5
14. Well, it doesn't help much that the minute one is, s/he is undercut by BOTH right and left in our
own party and then the rest of the right gets the strong advantage, because those right-wing traits are much more dominant and out of balance in all aspects of our lives/"our" system.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 12:34 PM
Response to Reply #14
17. I agree
It's been frustrating to watch almost the exact same dynamic occur both under President Clinton and President Obama. Both Presidents were kneecapped before they could (barely) get started. While not disparaging dissent and/or criticism, it would still be nice if we all could unite around one or two specific agenda items and stay focused long enough to make some progress towards achieving them instead of having a multitude of different subgroups constantly arguing with each other over how, when, where.............

I thought that we might've learned from what happened during Clinton's Presidency but I guess we're going to be stuck re-learning it again with President Obama. I just hope and, yes, pray, that President Obama is still given a chance to succeed (more) with the remainder of his term and, hopefully, election to a second term. Of course, he will really need a more progressive Congress to work with (more non-insane Republicans might help but they seem awfully lost at the moment in terms of being reasonable bargaining partners) if we want him to be able to get some more good policies signed into law.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:03 PM
Response to Reply #17
19. There's so much that people NEED to understand: Self Fulfilling Prophecy, for one, but perhaps more
importantly, what this video, The Money Masters, means http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXt1cayx0hs&feature=rela... - and - yes I know it has a Libertarian cast to it, but that does not change the truth of the history it outlines, nor does it affect what I/You do about it, so people need to credit the FACT that every time you say something "Obama opposes our needs/objectives. He is a traitor to his people" you make that possibility more and more and more likely/necessary. We ARE driving him further and further from ***ANY*** of our issues, because we are pulling the ground out from under him, thus making The Money Masters more and more and more powerful over him and us.

Self-fulfilling prophecy is VERY Real.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tclambert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:48 PM
Response to Reply #17
26. "unite around one or two specific agenda items" We did. Tax the rich. Single Payer Health Care.
aka Medicare for All. Then there's Close Gitmo. End the Wars.

We seemed pretty united on several issues, and we got told to quit whining.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 01:26 AM
Response to Reply #17
65. You know I love you, to death and respect you greatly....
But the Clintons are 100% DLC. They didn't have any wool pulled over their eyes. They are the wool-pullers.

I was hoping for better with President Obama, and have been greatly disappointed.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:18 PM
Response to Reply #14
21. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
WhoIsNumberNone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 02:26 PM
Response to Reply #5
33. As opposed to Watergate, Iran-Contra, Florida & Ohio which were all fair & square
IOKIYAR
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 12:03 PM
Response to Original message
6. You make a compelling case
I'm certain that popular media outlets will now descend on Wisconsin to investigate this whole "majority rules" concept that corrupts and stymies the free flow of commerce between buyers and sellers of the system.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 12:03 PM
Response to Original message
7. That is what they will be saying, of course
Not the way you have stated it. I am sure the "Union Thugs" were "intimidating" good hardworking Americans into not voting for that "non partisan" Prosser. Coming to a RW radio station near you as soon as the results are final. See Al Franken's election for a preview.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 12:07 PM
Response to Original message
8. HA! nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 12:08 PM
Response to Original message
9. So what do you call it when . . .
. . . something is bought and possessed that was not for sale and could not be for sale?

Like democracy.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 12:24 PM
Response to Reply #9
16. but the supreme court declared them for sale
see Citizens United v. FEC.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:07 PM
Response to Reply #16
20. The Supreme Court also once said that Mr. Dred Scott was not human
A corporation is not a person and Dred Scott was indeed a man endowed with certain unalienable rights.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TroglodyteScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 08:26 PM
Response to Reply #16
55. +1 n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 08:15 PM
Response to Reply #9
53. Your sincerity is fucking up this thread
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 09:50 PM
Response to Reply #9
56. Or the air, sunlight, love or the spirit. Hey, I got a million of these.
Edited on Wed Apr-06-11 09:51 PM by freshwest
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Skip_In_Boulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 12:08 PM
Original message
The Freepers were going on and on
last night about how since it was getting late the Democrats would manufacture votes in the dead of night and of course conservatives would do nothing about it.

I only wish that Democrats were half as organized, no make that a quarter organized, as they claim we are.

"I belong to no organized political party, I'm a Democrat". Will Rodgers
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 12:08 PM
Response to Original message
10. The margins are sooo narrow + Regressive tendencies, driven by fear, are sooo strong that
Edited on Wed Apr-06-11 12:10 PM by patrice
this outcome is very significantly much more likely than actual change is and every mis-guided "commitment" to ANY so-called "third party" - AT THIS TIME - makes change that serves our purposes increasingly less likely.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 12:09 PM
Response to Original message
11. One precinct left in Jefferson. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 12:10 PM
Response to Original message
12. I blame Acorn and the Black Panthers, of course!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Thegonagle Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 02:34 PM
Response to Reply #12
34. And ACORN does it again!
Never mind that they don't really exist anymore.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 12:14 PM
Response to Original message
13. The invisible hand of US election tabulating has been slapped
Take that!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 09:52 PM
Response to Reply #13
57. And THAT! BWAHAHA!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Permanut Donating Member (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 12:14 PM
Response to Original message
15. Anyone seen her birth certificate?
:sarcasm:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
drokhole Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 12:36 PM
Response to Original message
18. I love the thought of them losing their investment. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:27 PM
Response to Reply #18
22. Yep, but there's plenty more $ where that came from
Edited on Wed Apr-06-11 01:29 PM by peace frog
Even if their candidate loses, they'll tell us to "have a Koch and a smile and STFU".
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 04:31 PM
Response to Reply #18
40. We probably let them write it off. nm
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:28 PM
Response to Original message
23. I've really enjoyed all your WI posts, Jackpine Radical
I have so much respect for you and all the pro-labor, progressive, liberal Cheeseheads fighting for your rights, both on and off DU. :patriot:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:35 PM
Response to Original message
24. She tricked them by being unknown so they couldn't attack her!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:36 PM
Response to Original message
25. Note the unusual results in Milwaukee County
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 06:48 PM
Response to Reply #25
50. MAP: Graphic of Wisconsin county vote shifts = Milwaukee outlier illustrated.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 02:00 PM
Response to Original message
27. And she's an
Officer of the Court to boot!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
goobergoober01 Donating Member (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 02:11 PM
Response to Original message
28. do not celebrate too quickly--- the republicans are still awaiting the votes from graveyard county
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 02:12 PM
Response to Original message
29. Take a vote on it.
5-4 works.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 02:13 PM
Response to Original message
30. When I put the SL together with the username I got a headache. Well done, sir! nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 02:14 PM
Response to Original message
31. +1000% -- we fear corporte money in elections because it is BRIBERY ...
let's keep talking about it that way -- and reminding ourselves of that reality!!

And, sadly, let's also remind ourselves that the Repugs didn't bring us to the edge

of fascism and "third world America" on their own!!

Yes, their money has bought a HOLLYWOOD SOUNDSTAGE which we have to break thru --

from the GOP/Christian Coalition to the GOP/NRA, from the GOP/Pro-life Murderers to

the GOP/Computers --

time to crash thru and see that it is all Koch Bros. T-Baggers!!



The only way the rightwing can rise is via political violence and we've had 50 years

of that -- in '63 it took not only our president, but our people's government.

Stolen elections, lies and a lot of $$$ fill in the gaps!!


The Rightwing Koch Bros. Funded the DLC --

http://www.democrats.com/node/7789

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard...

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lord Helmet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 02:16 PM
Response to Original message
32. lol that's what they'll claim
Edited on Wed Apr-06-11 02:17 PM by Lord Helmet
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 02:45 PM
Response to Original message
35. It's not over
until Nino "The Fixer" Scalia says it's over.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DesertDiamond Donating Member (838 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 02:48 PM
Response to Original message
36. ROFL!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 02:57 PM
Response to Original message
37. K&R and I hope it's final!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Roy Rolling Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 03:26 PM
Response to Original message
38. "caveat Emptor"
I guess the Koch brothers now know the meaning of "buyer beware." They need to buy a better politician. The can blame deregulation for low quality and not getting their money's worth. As Mark Twain (?) said, "a good politican stays bought."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 03:57 PM
Response to Original message
39. K&R'd. But one problem--you assume that spending millions and losing dismays the Koch's
Edited on Wed Apr-06-11 04:01 PM by mistertrickster
These people are worth 15 BILLION dollars, that's 15 x 10 E 9.

They could spend about 100 million dollars a month for the next 15 years and they still wouldn't run out of money . . .

ON EDIT--it's hard for us mere mortals to understand the wealth that the filthy, stinking rich command these days.

I read recently that a hedge fund manager makes 2.4 million dollars an hour.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 04:33 PM
Response to Original message
41. CorpAmerica just lost a battle, but not the war. They will learn by this and be back
stronger and nastier than ever. Be prepared for 2012, its gona be messy.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Greybnk48 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 04:35 PM
Response to Original message
42. I borrowed this, is that o.k.?
I thought it was really funny and repeated it on FB.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 04:41 PM
Response to Original message
43. Sounds like maybe we're trying to get even
Since they have stolen the entire USA, it only seems fair that we "steal" the Wisconsin Supreme Court election. But beware, they aren't done with us yet.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 04:45 PM
Response to Original message
44. LOL! n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 05:29 PM
Response to Original message
45. Nailed it.

:rofl:

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 05:44 PM
Response to Original message
46. And I'm stealing your line.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 05:46 PM
Response to Original message
47. Correction: The people of Wisconsin stole it.
In your face, Kochholes!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 06:23 PM
Response to Original message
48. Some thefts are excusable...like this one.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 06:45 PM
Response to Original message
49. It's called "fair democracy", teabaggers! You can't buy this one!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Chef Eric Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 07:16 PM
Response to Original message
51. Like Atrios said, I bet that New Black Panther Party was behind this. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 07:58 PM
Response to Original message
52. It's gonna cost them way more...
in the long term...

w00t.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TroglodyteScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 08:24 PM
Response to Original message
54. K&R
All that money down the toilet. Hopefully there's a way for those groups to recoup their failed investment via some kind of government payout program.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
shark Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 11:01 PM
Response to Original message
59. Slime
Edited on Wed Apr-06-11 11:18 PM by shark
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 12:32 AM
Response to Original message
60. Would love to see Walker recalled YES!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
yngdip Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 12:37 AM
Response to Original message
61. K&R
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 12:43 AM
Response to Reply #61
62. Bodes welll...KnR
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mikekohr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 12:45 AM
Response to Original message
63. God Bless Our Neighbors to the North nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JackInGreen Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 01:00 AM
Response to Original message
64. We reserve the right
to refuse service to anyone at any time, before or after you've paid :D
Have a great day!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
onlyadream Donating Member (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 06:51 AM
Response to Original message
66. Thank You Gov. Walker!
If it weren't for you, people wouldn't have woken up.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RayStar Donating Member (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:45 AM
Response to Reply #66
67. YES
We still have a good ways to go. Ryan should be the next target.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 11:48 AM
Response to Original message
68. anybody see Rachel the other night?
Labor is fighting back, but this is so disturbing. What appears to be happening is that the repukes are attempting to break labor (what little is left) because unions generally donate to democrats. Now the very partisan supreme kangeroo court has decided that corporations now can even have more influence on our elections (even foreign corps)--apparently more power than the citizens of this country.

The repukes are going all out to squelch any labor movement for their greedy corporate friends--we're talking about no more two party system, but one party dominating-owned by domestic and foreign corporate masters -now I'd say that is fascism!

What truly disturbs me is the damn teabaggers are in agreement with this plan or they are totally clueless. Which is it? They must know they are backed by the wealthy and corporate interests--interests that could care less about the well being of this country or its' people.

I pray more people start waking up before these teabagging repukes cause too much damage to the people and the country.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Oct 30th 2014, 06:59 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC