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TeaBagsAreForCups Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-10 08:57 AM
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Chris -Tweety- Matthews: Born Again Birther?
Chris Matthews: Why Doesnt Obama Say Send Me A Copy Of My Birth Certificate Right Now
by Matt Schneider | 6:22 pm, December 27th, 2010

The debate over President Obamas birth certificate is gaining some renewed interest. First Hawaii Governor Neil Abercrombie announced that he will try to publicly release the document, and now MSNBC host Chris Matthews is wondering aloud why we cant just kill this crappy story.

Matthews is interested whether Abercrombie will actually be able to find it, but is still puzzled why Obama hasnt tried to clear up the confusion earlier, telling his guests:

I dont understand why the Governor doesnt just say snap it up . . . send me a copy right now. And why doesnt the President just say send me a copy right now. Why doesnt Gibbs and Axelrod say lets just get this crappy story dead.

Liberal columnist Clarence Page says the President is right for ignoring this crap and that there is little to benefit from attempting to legitimize the craziness of the birthers. Page even humorously suggests the likely outcome that would result if a document alleged to be the birth certificate is eventually produced, claiming birthers are still not going to believe it, theyre going to say well that Governor is part of the conspiracy too, because hes a Democrat.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/chris-matthews-why-doest-oba... /

Obligatory Disclaimer: Yeah, I know, the site is a piece of shit and predominantly GOP supportive. But, the video with Matthews is there.

Tweety is, at best, not an asswipe only fifty percent of the time.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-10 09:08 AM
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1. Next time someone tries to push the "Tweety is a serious journalist" meme,
I'm just going to bookmark this for reference.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-10 12:59 PM
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9. Be sure you read the posts that follow yours when you come back to the thread
Matthews is no birther.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-10 09:15 AM
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2. Everytime Matthews has a birther on, he shows them a copy of the birth certificate
and talks about Obama's birth annnouncement in the papers. So he may be in devils advocate mode.

At any rate, the "crappy story" can't be killed - those who believe Obama was born in Kenya will claim any evidence is forged.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-10 10:07 AM
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6. That's right. The OP is off base... totally.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-10 09:29 AM
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3. This is about as misleading a post as I've seen here.
Edited on Tue Dec-28-10 09:38 AM by jayfish
His point was that if only 57% of your constituency can say you were born in the US; then it's time to settle the issue. Matthews called both birthers and those who are undecided idiots. ...and used such language. The video seemed to have been selectively edited to exclude that quote. I'd post the transcript but it looks like the transcribers are on vacation. What's your agenda with this post?
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-10 09:37 AM
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4. I seen the show too
And the OP is not describing what I seen either.

For the record.

The point Tweety made was that nothing was going to convince the birther nuts.

Don
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-10 10:07 AM
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7. Correct. I saw it too.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-10 10:05 AM
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5. Yes. correct. Tweety is NO birther... This entire thread is off base.
Tweety is trying to shine a light on how stupid this is, as he has throughout.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-10 10:18 AM
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8. you obviously didn't see the program.
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TeaBagsAreForCups Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-10 04:42 PM
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10. It's just this simple....
1. this whole "birther" movement is, at the lower end of the Richter scacle of such, composed of political terrorists;
2. you do -not- give into, comply with, or support the demands of terrorists. Ever. (The abiding Obama strategy to this nonsense, thus far.)
3. by doing what Tweety did - irrespective of the context of the full program - he demanded (ostensibly under the guise of putting this "issue to rest") that Obama comply with these irrational demands of this particular sub-set of wingnut terrorists.
4. and even if Obama were to do it, I cite the wise counsel of Page: it would still not be accepted - nor will it ever.;
5. BUT, it would continue this ridiculous birther meme, as that which Matthews did on this program - and by the way, did the Governor of Hawaii earlier this week by his own stupid comments as well.

So, instead of those who anarkily challenge my motives (and, oh my, my AGENDA!) in posting this, that alerts this community to, at the least, Matthews' abject stupidity, you might want to ask, just as I did when I read the citation, just what are Matthews' motives and agenda in this matter.

Further please note - by the dripping sarcasm of this Gawker piece, I am not the only one to sense that all is not that hard on Hardball; to wit:

Chris Matthews Demands to See Obama's Birth Certificate, Now
"Look: MSNBC's Chris Matthews is not a birther, okay? That said... he still wants to know why Barack Obama hasn't shown whatever super-secret copy of his birth certificate. Where is it, Obama? But again: Chris Matthews is not a birther."

http://gawker.com/5719808/chris-matthews-demands-to-see...
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-10 04:51 PM
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11. Yes, Tweety keeps bringing up this nonsense
And, despite the disclaimer, he keeps having folks on to talk about it. "The controversy that is no controversy, President Obama's birth certificate. Doubters want to know why he doesn't produce his original birth certificate. They claim that the president wasn't born in the United States. They say that this is the culmination of a decades-long plot by shadowy forces to install a sort of Manchurian Candidate in the Oval Office, a man, they say, who is committed to the destruction of the United States and the American way. We'll be discussing these claims at length today! On the Tweety Show."

{Half an hour of nauseating innuendo, half-baked conspiracy theories, and just plain wrong on the facts hyperbole}

"Well that's our show for today. And remember, this is all nonsense."
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TeaBagsAreForCups Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 10:19 AM
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12. Eloquently stated....
... kudos and thanks.
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