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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 10:25 PM Original message |
As a long-time atheist, I think respect for other people is important |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 10:32 PM Response to Original message |
1. As a long time atheist, I think free speech is more important. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
2. +++++ highly recommend. |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 10:34 PM Response to Original message |
3. unfortunately the religously insane are not atheists and btw neither parties to the incident in |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 10:45 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. True enough, and unfortunate. n/t |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 10:34 PM Response to Original message |
4. Why do you think that what matters (or doesn't matter) to YOU |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 12:15 AM Response to Reply #4 |
15. That is a good point |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
5. I don't respect anybody who threatens to lose their shit over a book. nt |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 11:07 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. One thing my stepfather taught me: |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 11:45 AM Response to Reply #11 |
32. "but if you push someone's buttons and they act badly, and you knew they would act badly but pushed |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
6. I have no issue with giving respect to others... |
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dorkulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 10:39 PM Response to Original message |
7. As a longtime human, I think killing people over symbolism is a lot worse |
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Lefta Dissenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 10:58 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. K&R |
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arcane1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 11:24 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Especially INNOCENT people! |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 10:58 PM Response to Original message |
10. Respecting others is a non issue. The burning question is what is the |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 11:34 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Having children, my first thought is "who started it" |
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chollybocker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
14. Death-by-Religion occurs everyday, all over the planet. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 04:44 AM Response to Reply #14 |
23. What makes you think the people killed were religious? |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 12:17 AM Response to Original message |
16. What about respect for the lives of people |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 12:36 AM Response to Original message |
17. while respect is important as a social value, lack thereof should not be legally penalized |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 12:45 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Traditionally the penalties are social |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 01:14 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Have you paid attention to who some of the religious "leaders" are in this country? |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 01:13 AM Response to Original message |
19. "some theoretical free speech."? |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 10:23 AM Response to Reply #19 |
27. Theoretical in this sense: |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 11:35 AM Response to Reply #27 |
31. That's neither here nor there. |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 01:19 AM Response to Original message |
21. Special pleading. |
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JoeyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 04:40 AM Response to Original message |
22. Free speech is always more important than respect. |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 07:55 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Well said. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 08:03 AM Response to Original message |
25. "theoretical free speech". that tell me all I need to know |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 10:33 AM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Theoretical in this sense: |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 11:45 AM Response to Reply #29 |
33. No, it's a blanket right, not contingent on anything. |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 08:14 AM Response to Original message |
26. But poking others in the eye is so much fun!!! |
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guardian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
28. Respect must be earned. |
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GeorgeGist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
30. Most people wouldn't equate burning a book with speech. |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
34. I'll only give consideration to the reasonable concerns of other people |
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