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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 08:10 AM
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USA / EU Radiation and Jetstream Forecast (MOST Informative site)
http://www.woweather.com/weather/news/fukushima?VAR=zamg


If you live in the areas (west coast USA, Canada, Mexico, and also MIDWEST US)... pay close attention.. may not want to go outside during this time....

the radiation flow, forecast and shown by these several models...

(You will see what I posted below, on the right of your screen on this site..click on each for info on flow,etc..)

<snip> Potential dispersion of the radioactive cloud over The Northern Hemisphere
This animation displays a potential dispersion of the radioactive cloud (Caesium 137 Isotope) after a nuclear accident in reactor Fukushima I. The continuous release rate is very uncertain, thus the calculations have to be interpreted qualitatively. Dispersion in the near surface level (Level 1), in appr. 2500 m height (Level 12) and in appr. 5000 m height (Level 16).

AMG: dispersion model
Iodine 131
Xenon 133
Caesium 137

EURAD: dispersion model
Caesium 137 surface
Caesium 137 2500m
Caesium 137 5000m

FLEXPART: dispersion model
Iodine 131
Xenon 133
Caesium 137

HYSPLIT: air parcel trajectories
ensemble
different heights
Summary
IRSN
ZAMG
tells the tale of the isotopes coming our way... .. it will be up to you to decide if you should go outside during the time these clouds are over the USA, Canada, and Mexico...


I hope you find this useful~

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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 08:18 AM
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1. It finally sunk in: the potential for radiation of food in the nation's breadbasket.
Edited on Sat Mar-26-11 08:24 AM by no_hypocrisy
Wheat, corn, produce, cattle, poultry. The question is how much.

Even if you don't live in the projected areas of the jetstream/cloud, the impact is there.

P.S. You know what kinda scares me? The silence from Al Gore. I get the feeling he knows something we don't and he doesn't want to start a panic.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 08:19 AM
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2. exactly..
not a word from the media..yet. ;)
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 08:23 AM
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4. Tis much BIGGER than Japan..
Time to get informed and NOT rely on our media ...
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 08:26 AM
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5. Milk is the biggest concern
.. when it shows up in that all hell will break lose.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 08:03 PM
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11. and especially fish nt
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 08:22 AM
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3. Physicians for Social Responsibility - No safe dose of radiation
http://www.psr.org/news-events/press-releases/psr-concerned-about-reports-increased-radioactivity-food-supply.html

According to the National Academy of Sciences, there are no safe doses of radiation. Decades of research show clearly that any dose of radiation increases an individual’s risk for the development of cancer.


“There is no safe level of radionuclide exposure, whether from food, water or other sources. Period,” said Jeff Patterson, DO, immediate past president of Physicians for Social Responsibility. “Exposure to radionuclides, such as iodine-131 and cesium-137, increases the incidence of cancer. For this reason, every effort must be taken to minimize the radionuclide content in food and water.”

“Consuming food containing radionuclides is particularly dangerous. If an individual ingests or inhales a radioactive particle, it continues to irradiate the body as long as it remains radioactive and stays in the body,”said Alan H. Lockwood, MD, a member of the Board of Physicians for Social Responsibility.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 08:57 AM
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6. That is NOT how risk is determined.
Edited on Sat Mar-26-11 09:01 AM by Buzz Clik
Are people still out there with the ridiculous notion that we are not exposed to "dangerous" radiation every single day of our lives? If you define "safe" as being associated with no risk of death whatsoever, then you need to go back to bed and be very, very afraid. You're gonna die, and probably not from "natural" causes.

Here's some perspective on radiation doses that we receive every single day compared to the exposures we get from other sources.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php/www/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x697465
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 09:16 AM
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 09:57 AM
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10. thank you for posting this
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Miss_Underestimated Donating Member (239 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 02:41 AM
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13. I wish they would debate this "expert" and set him straight!!
Edited on Sun Mar-27-11 02:42 AM by Miss_Underestimated
http://newscenter.lbl.gov/feature-stories/2011/03/22/mckone-q-a/

U.S. Safe From Japan Radiation, Berkeley Lab Expert Says

Tom McKone, a senior staff scientist in Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory’s (Berkeley Lab’s) Environmental Energy Technologies Division, is an expert on health-risk assessments associated with exposure to environmental contaminants such as pesticides and radioactive material. He is also an expert in modeling the transport of chemicals across vast distances, and determining how this transport affects human health.

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Although the prevailing wind patterns move east from Japan toward U.S. lands, it is thousands of miles from Japan to Alaska, Hawaii, and the U.S. mainland. Any fission products released in Japan are diluted by factors of ten billion or more over these distances just by the volume of air in which the radioactivity disperses.

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As my colleague in the School of Public Health, Professor Kirk Smith has stated, Chernobyl relative to Fukushima is “like the forest fire compared to the camp fire.” Even in the worst case of a full meltdown of multiple reactors at the Daiichi site and combustion or explosion of the spent fuel in the plant’s storage pools, it will not release as much radioactivity or propel it as high in the atmosphere as Chernobyl.

The Chernobyl reactor had a graphite core that caught fire. The ferocious heat propelled radioactive particles into the upper atmosphere, spreading fallout across Europe. In contrast to the regional contamination from Chernobyl, the Daiichi contamination is very unlikely to extend beyond 30 kilometers from the site.

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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 09:05 AM
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7. If anyone would like to monitor the daily readings
you could start here. Daily from State of Oregon, with a link for Washington State readings as well.
http://public.health.oregon.gov/Preparedness/CurrentHazards/Pages/DailyAirMonitoring.aspx
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 09:54 AM
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9. Excellent data.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 02:20 AM
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12. oh.. boy...
:(
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