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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 08:47 PM
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Nuclear energy is dirty, dangerous, expensive, and unnecessary.
It's time to start phasing out nuclear energy and phasing in renewables.

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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 08:48 PM
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1. Yes, it is..
And, MAYBE, learn to conserve as a nation.....
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diane in sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 10:59 PM
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10. Let's be efficient and do way more with less energy and materials.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 11:18 PM
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12. Efficiency and conservation
Edited on Thu Mar-24-11 11:18 PM by girl gone mad
seem almost like forbidden topics in growth-based economic models.
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 08:51 PM
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2. We can hope for technological advances in renewables.
Until then, their contribution to energy needs will be minor.

We should continue to work towards technological advances in nuclear, as well.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 09:21 PM
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5. Renewables are ready now, and advances continue.
Nuclear has a negative learning curve, as the technology advances, it gets more expensive.
That's why South Africa gave up on the advanced Pebble Bed Modular Reactor.

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BrookBrew Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 10:51 PM
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9. Have you ever been there. You can send data faster by bird than internet
they have no infrastructure to support the technology. It is far cheaper to burn dead animals.

Not like they are all renewable.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 08:51 PM
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3. I think so too
and its not something I just woke up thinking yesterday either. Radiation kills just as sure as a bullet only sometimes slower and a more painful death
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 09:14 PM
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4. k/r
and further, it's time to move on from burning fossil fuels.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 10:07 PM
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6. Yes. nt
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 10:47 PM
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7. You know, I've heard that before.
I agree.

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BrookBrew Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 10:49 PM
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8. Just as soon as base load is covered by something other than dead animals
or split atoms then yay, this is real. Until then, it like saying we should end poverty and disease. Sure sounds good, but will not run the HVAC in my home.
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diane in sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 11:02 PM
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11. It's mostly dead plants and wide use of the wind and solar tech we have now would cover the baseload
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BrookBrew Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 09:21 AM
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15. I am 100% for agri based renewables..
the problem is base load. The base load can not fluctuate below a set level or stuff starts blacking out.

Wind and solar are great for on demand load.

The real issue is there is no real way to store large amounts of energy for later use.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 11:18 PM
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13. Future generations
will say how stupid we were to let it get THIS far.

People can't conceive of 10,000 or 20,000 year storage of anything. But we have a lot of that junk on hand already. Bet they wish they hadn't stored it at Fukushima.

We need to stop these nukes that are in the works.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 12:15 AM
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14. I agree....
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