So now that they have told us

[nadinbrzezinski]

Primary Containment might have been breached (In POI language that means it has... you has to tell the truth creatively)... we are told that there is absolutely no danger to the West Coast and the US Mainland. Has anyone told these rubes we are not rubes and can check a FUCKING JET STREAM? This is global.

Today geting canned veggies, for a month and yes, dry milk. The leading edge will not get here for eight days.


Oh and yes I forgot water.

That is all I can do...

[hlthe2b]

1. How much water are you stockpiling? (curious)

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. I think for two weeks... there is a limit

but my tap water comes from a reservoir... I am starting to buy it today.

[originalpckelly]

3. If it does come close to America, they might try cloud seeding to get it to precipitate out over...

the Pacific.

Just anything we can do to keep it from coming to America!

[snappyturtle]

4. What will it do to the ocean? nt

[DJ13]

5. Wouldnt it end up there eventually from runoff?

[nadinbrzezinski]

8. Yeah it will end up there anyway

THe amounts we will get here should be minimal, but...

[Sirveri]

11. iodine is a gas and won't precipitate. However it also only has a half of 8 days.

So half of it will be gone by the time it reaches us. 40 days and it's down to 1/32 of original strength. 80 days and it's pretty much gone at 1/1024 original level.

[nadinbrzezinski]

14. And cows concentrate it through mammary glands

They are REALLY EFFICIENT about that.

:-)

You know that, I know that. Why I said a month at most

[hlthe2b]

18. Milk (dairy) has traditionally been the source of concern....

I wonder how much risk would be associated with drinking water.... I really hadn't thought this aspect through, but it seems relatively low risk. :shrug:

[nadinbrzezinski]

20. Time\Distance it is very low

Unfortunately I had to make this something I thought off more or less regularly for ten years.

Yes thanks to the plant up the road we had to consider that.

[Sirveri]

26. I'm not sure that's true for Iodine, but it is for strontium and possibly cesium.

There are more than one nuclide of concern involved here so it starts getting odd when we talk about the biological health effects. Iodine is also heavier than air, so it should fallout (though not as a dust). It all really depends on if it hits the jet stream, how much of it hits the jet stream, and the rate that it falls out from the jet stream. Also if the concern is Iodine, then it's easier to just take some KI, no need to really stay away from milk and dairy, iodine should just pass through if your thyroid is fully loaded.

Then again I also have depression issues, so maybe if I actually cared about myself more I'd be more concerned... :shrug: I've always been pretty flippant over low doses of radiation anyways.

[The Backlash Cometh]

6. And you're stockpiling because you want to stay indoors to

avoid fallout?

[nadinbrzezinski]

7. no, to avoid parenteral contamination

the radioactive iodine goes through cow and comes out in the milk... when you drink the milk it goes inside of you.

Vegies can be cleaned up but it is just safer to eat canned for a while

My water comes from a reservoir.

Chances are we will get MINIMUM amounts, not even worthy of staying or let alone handing out iodine... TIME\DISTANCE, but the radioactive iodine WILL concentrate in milk. Quite frankly it is just a damn precaution.

[TalkingDog]

9. Cheese and chocolate. 2 things with high idodine content.

2 things with milk.
2 things to avoid for a while.

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. Yep, well we like milk... so I will get I think two or three cans

and live on that starting eight days from now.

[Shiver]

12. Jet streams are very high up there.

23,000 - 52,000 feet, depending on the jet stream. It would take a very big explosion to send anything that high.

[nadinbrzezinski]

15. Some of it will get here

look at the spread map for Chernobyl if you really do not believe me.

[Shiver]

16. I've seen the spread map for Chernobyl.

Chernobyl was much larger than this, with much less sophisticated equipment, with people who knew much less about this than we do now. I don't claim to know everything, or anything really, but what I do know says it's less than likely that any significant amount of radiation could reach the west coast. I'm an optimist, though, a way of seeing the world that's rather scarce on this site...

Not that you shouldn't prepare - better safe than sorry, and all that.

[nadinbrzezinski]

19. This is NOT over yet

when it is, we will be able to judge, we have jumped from L-4 to L-6 over night... and we may still reach L-7.

Hey we are only number three worst disaster now!

(They have surpassed TMI)

So to say that this is not worst that Chernobyl is a bit premature.

[slackmaster]

13. I'm going to start wearing a dosimeter to work just to freak everyone out

:hi:

[hlthe2b]

17. try a respirator...

:evilgrin:

[bvar22]

21. In WW2, The Japanese launched bomb carrying balloons to attack the US.

This post in NOT intended to gin up any anti-Japanese sentiment,
nor to cause hysteria or panic.
It has been posted ONLY to point out that the mainland USA is directly in the path of prevailing winds (jet stream) from Japan.

"Japan released the first of these bomb-bearing balloons on November 3, 1944. They were found in Alaska, Washington, Oregon, California, Arizona, Idaho, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Colorado, Texas, Kansas, Nebraska, South Dakota, North Dakota, Michigan and Iowa, as well as Mexico and Canada."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_balloon

The Japanese Fire Balloon attacks were kept secret from the American public during the war,
and are little known today (except by trivia nerds like myself). They caused little damage (6 deaths),
but the concept is fascinating.

[nadinbrzezinski]

23. Or historians

they are fascinating little devices.

[tabatha]

22. Here is a place that will probably make a lot of dough

http://www.nukepills.com/emergency-kits.htm

I am going to stick with my pure cocoa that I use in Almond milk, and spirulina tablets.

[nadinbrzezinski]

24. We are not to that point, truth be told

and those iodine tablets can make you sick to your stomach... literally.

[tabatha]

25. Yep, but it seems that many people think we are.

I found this on another board.