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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 04:53 PM
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I have tried every single recommended fix to connect to DU
I am this close to saying just delete my account after 10 continuous years. Can you say frustrated? I have lost two days trying to resolve this, and now have to get my deadline work done.

Here is what I did, if ANYONE can see the problem:
I am using a Candian proxy currently (fiberprox.net)

I have tried the following:
1. reboot, clear cache, clear cookies, try to access "normally" via a google or yahoo direct link
2. Per Elad's suggestion, I edited my host file, cleared cache, cleared cookies-- no avail but here is what that file looks like:
# Copyright (c) 1993-1999 Microsoft Corp.
#
# This is a sample HOSTS file used by Microsoft TCP/IP for Windows.
#
# This file contains the mappings of IP addresses to host names. Each
# entry should be kept on an individual line. The IP address should
# be placed in the first column followed by the corresponding host name.
# The IP address and the host name should be separated by at least one
# space.
#
# Additionally, comments (such as these) may be inserted on individual
# lines or following the machine name denoted by a '#' symbol.
#
# For example:
#
# 102.54.94.97 rhino.acme.com # source server
# 38.25.63.10 x.acme.com # x client host

# localhost name resolution is handled within DNS itself.
# 127.0.0.1 localhost
# ::1 localhost
216.158.28.198 www.democraticunderground.com
216.158.28.198 democraticunderground.com


3. Edited my wireless DNS settings, per Skinner's suggestions to
208.67.222.222
208.67.220.220
Cleared cache, cleared cookies, and rebooted

4. Rebooted again.. Flushed DNS, cleared cache, did NOT reenter DU using proxy, changed the primary DNS to 8.8.8.8 and left the alternate to 208.67.220.220:

When I performed a NSLOOKUP democraticunderground.com
it simply times out.


???????????????????????????????????????????????

Can anyone PLEASE suggest something else? I have a sprint ISP since I use sprint wireless 3g/4g overdrive device. PLEASE! I have already expended two days on this, thinking it was a virus infection yesterday before I saw the information in the DUPanicRoom.


I am at my wits end. For those who have not been experiencing problems, good for you, but please don't respond with jokes. I am afraid that I have lost all sense of humor. sigh.... I'm becoming afraid to try anything else because if I screw up all internet access then I'd have to pay someone to deal with it and I simply can not afford to do so. Damn it all. :shrug:
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 04:55 PM
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1. The only other thing I can suggest
is just to wait a few days.
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 04:59 PM
Response to Reply #1
6. +1. Sorry but I agree. Sometimes it is good to take a break from all things virtual. n/t
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 08:17 PM
Response to Reply #6
60. Yes... I've come to the same conclusion...
..... I just hope it resolves itself.
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 09:04 PM
Response to Reply #60
72. It will. I was blocked out at work for 2 hours yesterday and my home computer was blocked out for
12 hours until the problem resolved itself.
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inademv Donating Member (738 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 04:56 PM
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2. Use google's DNS
8.8.8.8
8.8.6.6
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 05:03 PM
Response to Reply #2
8. yeah.. tried, but to no avail...
thx though
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #8
63. TRY THIS:
8.8.8.8
8.8.4.4
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 08:30 PM
Response to Reply #63
67. thanks, but those were among my attempts...
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Hokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 04:57 PM
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3. I switched to Google DNS Servers
I am on Roadrunner and as of an hour ago I switched back and checked the default DNS servers at Roadrunner and they still do not work. I have no problems connecting using the Google DNS servers. I am somewhat surprised DU doesn't have a big announcement on this posted on the front page.
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 08:26 PM
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62. agreed, only thing that has worked so far
change primary DNS to 8.8.8.8
change alternate DNS to 8.8.4.4

CHA-CHING
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JohnWxy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 04:58 PM
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4. I am assuming Monday DU was the target of a cyber-attack from our friendly Fascists.
I couldn't get on either. Google said it couldnt find the site I was looking for. I think this is something different than Denial of Service attack.

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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 05:14 PM
Response to Reply #4
27. Explanation here. Just bookkeeping.
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lldu Donating Member (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 04:59 PM
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5. put the 127.0.0.1 localhost back in as the first uncommented line.
That shouldn't be removed or commented out. At least, I have never seen it commented out.
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 05:05 PM
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commented out = # in front of an IP address
I agree with Ildu. I would put both 127.0.0.1 addresses with NO # in front.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 05:07 PM
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13. will try it...
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lldu Donating Member (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 05:21 PM
Response to Reply #13
31. can you ping those addresses? DO they respond
Ping www.democraticunderground.com

What IP address do you get?

I get 216.158.54.195

can you type that address in and get to democraticunderground?

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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 06:51 PM
Response to Reply #31
37. the request times out both ways...
I can enter 216.158.54.195 into my url bar and it will load the first page, but will not let me log in, but rather keeps bouncing me back to the error message
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 05:00 PM
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7. Have you tried connecting just using the 216.158.28.198
instead of "democraticunderground.com"?
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 05:08 PM
Response to Reply #7
19. yes... it won't load either.
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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 05:19 PM
Response to Reply #19
29. I think that may not be the right IP address.
Edited on Tue Mar-01-11 05:22 PM by Make7
According to OpenDNS, www.democraticunderground.com has the following IP addresses:

216.158.28.195
216.158.28.197
216.158.28.199
216.158.54.195
216.158.54.197

I did not see x.x.x.198 in their cache. Try those IP addresses in your browser's address bar and if one of them works, put that address in your hosts file. I used x.x.28.195 yesterday and it worked for me.
 
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 06:52 PM
Response to Reply #29
38. Yes and no..
I can enter 216.158.54.195 into my url bar and it will load the first page, but will not let me log in, but rather keeps bouncing me back to the error message
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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 07:23 PM
Response to Reply #38
48. You need to use that IP address in your 'hosts' file.
Edited on Tue Mar-01-11 07:24 PM by Make7
Once you reach DU by entering in 216.158.54.195 in your address bar, any link you click on will try to send you to www.democraticunderground.com instead of the actual IP address - which will cause you to run into the DNS issue because it's trying to look up www.democraticunderground.com and that isn't resolving to an IP address.

The hosts file tells your computer that when it sees you trying to connect to www.democraticunderground.com it should instead use the IP address entered in the file. This avoids the need to query a domain name server to find out what IP address www.democraticunderground.com is associated with - you've already told it the IP address to use.

All I did yesterday was add an entry in my hosts file to use one of DU's IP addresses for www.democraticunderground.com. If you enter 216.158.54.195 in your hosts file, in theory it should allow you to navigate the site. At least, it worked for me.
 
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 05:03 PM
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9. sign up for free open DNS
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 05:05 PM
Response to Reply #9
11. I tried using their DNS numbers... Do I have to sign up?
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 05:06 PM
Response to Reply #11
12. No. If you sign up, you get some information,you can still use the DNS servers without registering
Edited on Tue Mar-01-11 05:07 PM by steve2470
eom
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 05:11 PM
Response to Reply #12
23. oops. thanks for the correction n/t
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 05:08 PM
Response to Reply #11
18. yes - go to the open DNS link
and sign up to use their service (for a household you can use it for free)

you add their DNS numbers to your options in your own computer network. clear your cache, etc.

then just click on the DU link you have bookmarked on your browser.

I wasn't able to access DU for the entire day yesterday (actually wasn't around for most of the time anyway.) I used a proxy to read this information here then make the changes to my computer and haven't had one problem since.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 05:05 PM
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10. IT'S NOT YOU OR YOUR ACCOUNT OR YOUR COMPUTER
These are widespread outages, affecting whole areas of the country at given times.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 05:07 PM
Response to Reply #10
15. Is someone doing a trial run on blacking out the internet???
I put NOTHING beyond TPTB. Nothing.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 05:10 PM
Response to Reply #15
21. No. Skinner explained what happened in a thread here. n/t
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 05:20 PM
Response to Reply #15
30. Joe Lieberman's playing games on his laptop with his internet kill switch. LOL n/t
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 08:31 PM
Response to Reply #15
69. That was my first thought
since it's been happening area by area.

FWIW, it's not just DU. My fiber site has also been iffy.
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NOLALady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 05:07 PM
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14. The free open DNS worked for me.
Set the dns to
• 208.67.222.222
• 208.67.220.220
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 11:27 PM
Response to Reply #14
87. Same here. OpenDNS worked.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 05:08 PM
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16. Did you try connecting via proxify.com?
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 05:10 PM
Response to Reply #16
22. I'm using a proxy already: fiberprox.net
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 05:16 PM
Response to Reply #22
28. Just FYI, I just tried fiberprox.net from here and it worked fine. Really weird. I'm
sure you saw this already, but here it is ... message Skinner posted earlier today.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Skinner/396

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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 05:22 PM
Response to Reply #28
32. I can use fiberprox.net fine also nt
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 06:54 PM
Response to Reply #28
39. fiberprox.net is the only way I've been able to get in past 2 days
Edited on Tue Mar-01-11 06:54 PM by hlthe2b
Skinner's message and tips were what got me started, along with Elad's post in trying to correct this on my end. Unfortunately... no success.
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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 05:08 PM
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17. This is the 'hosts' file that I used yesterday:
Edited on Tue Mar-01-11 05:10 PM by Make7
# Copyright (c) 1993-1999 Microsoft Corp.
#
# This is a sample HOSTS file used by Microsoft TCP/IP for Windows.
#
# This file contains the mappings of IP addresses to host names. Each
# entry should be kept on an individual line. The IP address should
# be placed in the first column followed by the corresponding host name.
# The IP address and the host name should be separated by at least one
# space.
#
# Additionally, comments (such as these) may be inserted on individual
# lines or following the machine name denoted by a '#' symbol.
#
# For example:
#
# 102.54.94.97 rhino.acme.com # source server
# 38.25.63.10 x.acme.com # x client host

127.0.0.1 localhost
216.158.28.195 www.democraticunderground.com

That is the only change I made and it worked well enough to read, login, and post. The were some elements that didn't load, but it didn't seem to affect the functionality. I should note that I have reverted back to my original hosts file and everything is working fine today.
 
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City of Mills Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 05:09 PM
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20. Do you quit your job if the post office forgets to deliver your paycheck?
Sorry you're having trouble, it must be frustrating to not have access this long. But Skinner's trying. It's a weird issue, it's been continuously up for me the whole time.

Hang in there!!!
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 07:39 PM
Response to Reply #20
52. I'm not meaning to be whiney nor to blame anyone...
If anything, I am mad at myself for not just logging off and going back to my 'real' work, but the first day, I was concerned it might be a viral/trojan infection causing me problems because coincidentally one other site would not load as well. So, I spent that day with virus/malware screens...

Karma has tried to teach me patience for years and damn it, I wish the lesson would stick ALREADY!!! ;)
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 05:11 PM
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24. Google DNS working fine for me ....
8.8.8.8
8.8.4.4
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 05:12 PM
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25. It's not you. Just wait.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 05:13 PM
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26. Do a tracert in the Windows DOS box
Start > All Programs > Accessories > Command Prompt


Type This... tracert www.democraticunderground.com


You will find what isn't working.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 06:57 PM
Response to Reply #26
40. it comes back...
unable to resolve target system name www.democraticunderground.com :shrug:

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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 07:11 PM
Response to Reply #40
44. Ewww... Weird! Never had that happen
Just tried a simple Ping.

0/4.

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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 05:26 PM
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33. Please wait a bit longer. Some Google results I saw said DNS corrections can take 3-5 days to
propagate across the Net. Not the few hours Skinner was hoping for at first.

I'm still using a proxy server, too, but hoping the regular connection will be back soon.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 07:24 PM
Response to Reply #33
49. Yes... I'm guessing there is no choice at this point...
I just feel "vested" in it, having wasted all this time, first trying to figure out what was going on and thinking it was a trojan/virus infection and then try to find a work around.

The proxy I am using is fine, though a bit slow. I became concerned re: a post that laid out the extensive vulnerabilities and risks one can face from using these proxies. I have good malware security and don't think I've used my DU email address, login, and password for anything else, so I guess I can absorb some risk. :shrug:
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frebrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 05:41 PM
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34. Skinner's Journal - explanation
Skinner gave a thorough, detailed explanation of what happened, what caused it and what the resolution will be (eventually). I think we should all read it. I can't give a link, since I'm using Skweezer to get here. Just click on Journals then on Skinner.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 07:01 PM
Response to Reply #34
42. No, I read this earlier... Skinner's & Elad's suggestions...
are what I have been using to try to correct this and thus prompted this post. :shrug:
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necso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 06:23 PM
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35. I just got in by typing (pasting) 216.158.28.198
in the address field using two different browsers.

Is the hosts file in the right place? Did you drop any file extension (like ".sam")?
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 07:03 PM
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43. In answer...
216.158.28.198 will not load; 216.158.28.195 will, but I can not log in... Every subsequent page to the first takes me back to an error message.

In answer to the second question... no.. no extension. :shrug:
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necso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 07:58 PM
Response to Reply #43
55. Yeah, sorry,
links might need DNS to resolve addresses (to check I'd have to screw up my DNS), even if relative. It's been a while since I played with this stuff on a nuts and bolts level.

Still, the IP# is useful to check site presence (a "ping" type of thing to see if the site is up); although you can typically hack page addresses by substituting the ip address (mostly, I just read). But yeah, it would get tricky using this method.

I don't use the feature, but doesn't microsoft sometimes hide file extensions. I'm using an outdated version but start--> settings--> folder options--> view --> uncheck "Hide file extensions for all known types" or suchlike

Sounds like maybe a cookies/caches issue to me (reboot; plus, there are other things to try that I won't lightly suggest); and it's possible something got messed up when you tried to fix things (when doing tech support I've seen this many times, almost to the point where I expect it).

And if you're using a proxy, things can get weird.

Look, if you use a functioning (for DU lookup) DNS server (having cleared any related info on your computer; other people have id-ed functioning (for DU lookup) public DNS servers), and you still have problems, then something else almost certainly has to be going on. And maybe trying stuff on other sites might point to it.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 08:09 PM
Response to Reply #55
56. Yes.. I'm going to try to back track as much as possible..
and just wait it out, I guess. Thanks for your thoughts.
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necso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 08:23 PM
Response to Reply #56
61. Just to emphasize the point,
on older versions anyway, microsoft doesn't come with a hosts file.

It comes with a hosts.sam (for sample) file. You have to copy and rename, or just rename the file for it to work.

I've done the hosts thing many times on older versions, and it essentially forces name resolution. And if the file is named right and in the right place, then I can't remember it not working. (Reboot... always reboot.)

There are a lot of settings that configure stuff, browsers for example; and these can really screw you up, disabling stuff you need. And I always clear my browser caches and cookies when I exit. But for most users, I would suggest more specific cookie clearing; it may take a tool, but you can look at, delete individual cookies.

Some folks do auto login, and the older login would be under (something like) the site name, so it wouldn't carry over probably.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 06:42 PM
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36. Here is the simple thing that worked for me


delete cookies as instructed

Start > Run and type: ipconfig /flushdns

then enter DU's new IP address directly into your browser 216.158.54.197


I hope that works for you. No need to edit your host file or mess with any other settings.

Let me know if it works



Many thanks to Tabatha for mentioning the cmd to flush the dns.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 07:17 PM
Response to Reply #36
45. It partially works, but won't let me log in..
While I allow cookies, it seems to think I am not allowing them for 216.158.54.197...When I go back to the proxy, fiberprox.net, I can log in normally.

Maybe I'm going to just have to lurk for awhile or actually go do something more productive. :shrug: (may be the "goddesses" way of telling me to get something done. ;)
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 11:32 PM
Response to Reply #45
88. you did the ipconfig /flushdns in the run command right?
I couldn't log in before I did it, I was blocked by a cookie warning screen.

The other thing I can think of is did you check for both cookies?

What happens when you try to log in? Do you the cookie warning screen?
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 11:48 PM
Response to Reply #88
91. Yes... it turns out that Sprint is controlling dns options
Edited on Tue Mar-01-11 11:50 PM by hlthe2b
to such an extent on their wireless 3g/4g sierra overdrive device, it really didn't matter what I did all day. DUer techie gurus Kenny Blankenship and Steve2470 sleuthed that out in several threads way downstream.

Thanks, Catherina. I guess if I go back to DSL or other broadband, rather than the mobile sprint overdrive device, I'll know how to fix it. But, it seems I'll have to wait for Sprint to finally update their dns data.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 06:57 PM
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41. one other thing you may try?
Edited on Tue Mar-01-11 07:10 PM by kentuck
If you have Windows, hit the START button and pull down Programs file and then click on Accessories file and go into System Tools. If you have System Restore, you can pick a date before two days ago and it will restore your files to that point in time.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 07:17 PM
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46. Did you bother to read Skinner's thread on what happened?
It may take a few days to resolve this. Meanwhile, relax and read a book.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 08:13 PM
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58. Yes.. It was the suggestions he included as well as those from Elad
that started me on this process.... And, yes, I'm giving up for the time being... Perhaps it will resolve itself. I surely hope so.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 07:22 PM
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47. I know someone in FL that has Sprint that is down also. They reported it over 20 hrs ago
and it seems there was a mix-up with the DNS server. He still cannot get on DU. That is all I know right now.

Good luck! I know it is frustrating! DU is all we have sometimes to keep us sane!

:fistbump:

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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 07:40 PM
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53. I'm in NE FL and have had no problems getting on DU.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 08:34 PM
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70. Do you have sprint also? n/t
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 09:03 PM
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71. We have comcast for cable internet.
No landline here.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 09:11 PM
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74. I think it has something to do with the Sprint connection or lack there of. n/t
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 08:12 PM
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57. well, at least that sounds promising in terms of similar situations...
Patience is not my strong point (to put it mildly), but at this point, I just have to go back to my "real" work and see what happens. Thanks
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 07:31 PM
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50. PLEASE hang in there.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 08:28 PM
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65. sigh... will try.... Hopefully the "cyber gods" will work it out...
I've been demanding patience for years...! Never seems to arrive ;)
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bigmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 07:36 PM
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51. I am using Linux, and for the past two days I can get DU from home, but not from work.
I think that addresses some of your issues. I've been thinking that perhaps it's blocked from work. Is there anyone else using Linux having the problem?

My point is that it's unlikely to be Microsoft-related. Although, I do use Firefox, and it could be Firefox-related.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 08:29 PM
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66. Using Linux + Firefox, no problems. I was not able to get in for about 2 hours when it
first started, except by proxy to another part of US. I don't think it's OS or browser related, but rather DNS servers catching up. We have a very progressive ISP here with up to 100mbps lines. I think DNS server is kept very current. Maybe that's why we recovered here so quickly, don't know for sure.
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 07:40 PM
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54. try DNS of 4.2.2.1 ... the only thing that worked for me.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 08:15 PM
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59. Lucky you... but unfortunately not for me..
Thanks for the suggestion, though. ;)
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 08:28 PM
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64. Patience is a virtue.
Read a book or something.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 08:31 PM
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68. So they say...
So, why wasn't I born with any?! ;)
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 09:05 PM
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73. I finally got through after trying all the fixes...
Changed my DNS server to 4.2.2.2. and 8.8.8.8.

Finally got in.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 09:27 PM
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75. Thanks all for your attempts to help... I am going to wait it out...
try to find those remnants of patience I stuck somewhere, and wait for the DNS "gods" to work it out, as I try to get some other things done. I'm sure Skinner, Elad, and others are every bit as frustrated as I. Once in 10 years isn't bad odds, however unwelcome. ;)
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Thunderstruck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 09:34 PM
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76. That would be the thing. I lost DU at about 11am Central yesterday
and it just now came back up.

DNS propagation is an enigma. Sometimes it kicks right in for some but takes a really long time for others - a day and a half for me.

Patience is probably your only option left. Give it time.

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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 10:10 PM
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77. When you type this command, what do you see?
nslookup

just that command and no options

What nslookup returns when run with no options is just the address/name of the nameserver your system will to try to use for all lookups. Example:
C:\> nslookup
Default Server: nameserver1.domain.com
Address: 10.0.0.1
>

If this address is not what you expected, like if it's not the address for opendns' servers or google's servers, then you have some conflicting option in your tcp/ip settings. You will have to find it.

It could be you tried to set the nameserver address to be 8.8.8.8 (for google's public server) but when you run "nslookup", as I mentioned above without any further option, you see something like 192.168.1.254 or 10.0.0.254 or a similar unrouteable local area network ip address. That would be your LAN router overriding your preference for dns server address. Make sure you have unchecked the option to "obtain dns information automatically" in your TCP/IP settings. Normally when your system is set to "obtain ip Address automatically" it gets its nameserver information and gateway address information at the same time. But in your case you want to make sure that you do *not* obtain DNS server information automatically.

(Long shot)
If you don't connect to the internet via a LAN or a router, but are directly connected to the internetz somehow, such as the use of pppoe on your personal computer with your ISP's equipment used as a "bridge" or modem, then settings you assign to your ethernet adapter will not affect how your system attempts to do DNS lookups. You will have a ppp adapter and possibly a custom non-windows program for configuring its options. Probably the option you would be looking for in that case would be "usepeerdns" which you would need to set to no or uncheck it, or hiss at it.

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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 10:20 PM
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78. re:
Edited on Tue Mar-01-11 10:21 PM by hlthe2b
I use a sprint wireless 3G/4G overdrive device to connect.

When I do a simple NSLOOKUP, it comes back with Overdrive-371.Ian
and my own ISP address

So, if I understand you correctly then my sprint device is overriding my dns preferences in the wireless network connection (and no, the obtain dns information automatically is NOT checked in the options). :shrug:

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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 11:06 PM
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79. Yes, if you have tried to set custom dns address on your wifi adapter
Edited on Tue Mar-01-11 11:14 PM by kenny blankenship
but nslookup (run w/ no options) doesn't report that address, then some option -or action- of that device/adapter is ignoring or interfering with what you told it about DNS.

Now that I know the type of internet connection you have and the device name, I have found this from opendns.org's support forums:
http://forums.opendns.com/comments.php?DiscussionID=6185
#
Can't point get OpenDNS working with Sierra Overdrive 3G/4G Mobile Hotspot

Still getting message: "Oops. You're not using OpenDNS yet."

Have changed my DNS settings as follows:

Overdrive Advanced Settings>Router>LAN>DNS Mode=Manual>Manual DNS Servers = 208.67.222.222, 208.67.220.220
Have tried both DNS Relay=Enabled AND DNS Relay=Disabled

Still no luck. Any suggestions? Thanks.


User Guide for device:
http://support.sprint.com/global/pdf/user_guides/sierra_wireless/overdrive_3g4g/overdrive_3g4g_sierra_wireless_ug.pdf
#

* CommentAuthordiacon
* CommentTimeFeb 12th 2010

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Sprint's network doesn't allow for using other DNS servers. There is a work around though that would have to happen on each machine.

Here's the latest thread with info about Sprint and this issue:

http://forums.opendns.com/comments.php?DiscussionID=6021&page=1#Item_42


It isn't just that the Overdrive hotspot is overriding your settings, Sprint is redirecting your outbound traffic over port 53 (used for dns) and not letting it connect to opendns or google or anybody else! They do this on their own routers, and it's completely beyond your ability to control. Sorry for all the posts that tell you "just do this, and your problem will be solved" or "make sure you didn't screw up this other thing." In this case, no friendly advice or assurances that "it's not that hard!" can work because you're up against your own ISP's sabotaging of an internet protocol. My ISP, like just about every other ISP these days, will not allow any host to contact my machine over tcp port 25. It's an antispam thing, but it breaks your ability to have your own mail server without elaborate countermeasures.

There may be a workaround using a program called Delegate ( www.delegate.org )that you can use to cause your own dns lookups to go out over a different port (5353, for example) instead of over the normal port 53. Delegate appears to be a multipurpose, swiss-army-knife style port redirector, so expect lots of configuration hoohaw. I have no experience with it, can't say whether it would be effective against Sprint's clear desire to capture your DNS queries, and I'm pretty sure it would be intimidating to deal with.
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 11:11 PM
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82. Delegate info, yup looks a tad intimidating:
DeleGate is a multi-purpose application level gateway, or a proxy server which runs on multiple platforms (Unix, Windows, MacOS X and OS/2). DeleGate mediates communication of various protocols (HTTP, FTP, NNTP, SMTP, POP, IMAP, LDAP, Telnet, SOCKS, DNS, etc.), applying cache and conversion for mediated data, controlling access from clients and routing toward servers. It translates protocols between clients and servers, applying SSL(TLS) to arbitrary protocols, converting between IPv4 and IPv6, merging several servers into a single server view with aliasing and filtering. Born as a tiny proxy for Gopher in March 1994, it has steadily grown into a general purpose proxy server. Besides being a proxy, DeleGate can be used as a simple origin server for some protocols (HTTP, FTP and NNTP).

http://www.delegate.org/delegate/

Download link: http://www.delegate.org/delegate/download/
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 11:19 PM
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84. Oh, wow... now I see what the problem is... Damn...
well, I traded off portability for mobile and data, rather than go with traditional dsl or wired broadband, so that I could use it as a small business solution. 'Guess this is the downside.


thanks for finding this. At least I know it isn't just me doing something wrong.
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 11:07 PM
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80. is this your device ?
Edited on Tue Mar-01-11 11:09 PM by steve2470
http://bit.ly/eRZCFP

Overdrive™ 3G/4G Mobile Hotspot
by Sierra Wireless

page 106 of the user manual talks about DNS servers and how to set them up manually.

on edit: OK, ignore this post. Kenny Blankenship has a MUCH better post !




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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 11:15 PM
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83. Yes.. that's it...
Edited on Tue Mar-01-11 11:21 PM by hlthe2b
Hmmm... On edit, I see from Kenny's post that Sprint has blocked me from doing anything in terms of setting alternate dns.

thanks. I needed a portable wireless connection for my small business now that $$ are tight, so I guess this is the tradeoff.
I appreciate your trying to sort it out for me, though. Hopefully, Sprint will update their dns matches soon.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 11:09 PM
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81. not trying to laugh at your frustration
but this thread is like "Groundhog Day"

...the same problems over and over... but one day they'll be solved!! :)
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 11:42 PM
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90. It does feel like Groundhog Day...
There is an unpleasant twist-- given my distrust of all things corporate-- as it seems only Sprint updating their DNS match data is going to solve it for me.

Oh, well. I learned one heck of a lot more than I knew before on the subject. There is THAT. And, once again, I can affirm the wonderful ability of a loving dog to calm the soul. ;)
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 11:20 PM
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85. You be back and calmer now?
:hug:
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 11:25 PM
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86. Yes, I had to let the BP drop back down
Frankly after having DU's best gurus working on it in this thread (and finding via the last few threads above that it is a Sprint issue controlling the whole dns selection) I feel calmer. At least I know it wasn't something I was or was not doing correctly.

thanks for the cyberhug. That helps too...;)
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UnDued11 Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-11 11:39 PM
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89. You DID succeed.. (as did I)
Edited on Tue Mar-01-11 11:40 PM by UnDued11
but only after 2 miserable days of trying this and then trying that..

I used a proxy thingie & created a new account for my husband, and then stole it :)

Out of force-of-habit, I keep hitting "my du" on my toolbar & getting sent back to the DNS page:rofl:

edit.. These ADS are OBNOXIOUS:( I have never seen them but of course my husband is a cheapskate and has not donated yet :evilgrin:

could be that he does not even know he has an account here:)
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 04:50 PM
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92. Get a grip.
Sheesh.
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