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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 07:58 PM
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Huge volcano under Yellowstone Park rising
Edited on Wed Feb-09-11 08:10 PM by The Straight Story
Huge volcano under Yellowstone Park rising
It's building quickly, but that doesn't mean doomsday eruption is imminent

The huge volcano under Yellowstone National Park has been rising at an unprecedented rate during the past several years, according to a new study.

In the ancient past, the Yellowstone volcano produced some of the biggest-known continental eruptions, but the recent rising doesn't mean another doomsday eruption is looming, scientists say.

The recent rising is unprecedented for Yellowstone's caldera — the cauldron-shaped part of the volcano — but it's not uncommon for other volcanoes around the world. The new study has simply revealed a more active caldera at Yellowstone than scientists realized.

"It's pretty exciting when you see something that's five times larger than what you've seen in the past," said Charles Meertens, director of the nonprofit UNAVCO facility in Boulder, Colo., which aids geoscience research. Meertens is a former postdoctoral fellow under one of the study's authors, Robert Smith of the University of Utah in Salt Lake City.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41494177/ns/technology_and_science-science/


PS for those wanting to watch that really cool movie by the BBC on yellowstone (in 16 parts):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WF-RKzqNtz0
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Urban Prairie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 08:14 PM
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1. So this swelling of magma "isn't" a yikes!! situation yet?
Or does it merely merit a Mr.Spock/Dr.McCoy (Bones) one-eyebrow raise?
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 08:17 PM
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2. Yellowstone is the largest geodetic bulge on our planet, to be taken very seriously
As in, disvest in the Midwest.
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 09:06 PM
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14. "Geodetic Bulge" would make great name for a rock band. n/t
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 09:09 PM
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+1
Glad I'm not the only one thinking of the important things. ;)
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 09:14 PM
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20. LOL....
Sometimes they lob one dead into the sweet spot, yanno?

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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 09:21 PM
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25. Science is great for that.
Tell me you wouldn't shell out $30 to see Olympus Mons! :)
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 09:24 PM
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26. Only if they played "Your love is as deep as an extra-terrestrial rift valley" n/t
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 09:43 PM
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31. I light my lighter for that one!
:D
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 11:18 PM
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40. I used to have a lot of those when I was a younger man.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 12:01 AM
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49. I think most people in the world will die if she blows.
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 08:23 PM
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3. If Yellowstone blows, we can kiss our asses goodbye.
Edited on Wed Feb-09-11 08:23 PM by golddigger
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 08:52 PM
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7. Depends how bad, but if the supervolcano goes, and it is due
in geologic time... yes it could very well be an extinction level event. The last time one of these went off humans went down to an evolutionary bottleneck
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 09:07 PM
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16. Could well be?
If it blows, really blows, it is an extinction level event for all but those damn cockroaches. But that's one of the things that falls under my umbrella of "shit too big to worry about.".
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 10:39 PM
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36. Exactly, in north america, there is nothing to do about it
if you were clear on the other side of the world, perhaps
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 10:57 PM
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37. Nope
Nuclear winter times 1000. Whole earth population extinction, some quickly, some a little slower. Thing is, it's just too big to worry about. It's like worrying about a huge asteroid hitting our planet. Odds are, it's going to happen some day. It happened before. But since there is nothing to be done, it's pointless to worry about.
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 11:13 PM
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39. That reminds me of a History channel thing I watched a year or so ago
Edited on Wed Feb-09-11 11:15 PM by JonLP24
There is a asteroid heading our way but we know for sure exactly for many years. I think we're expect to know one way or the other in the 2020s. I wish I could remember exactly what they said. Anyways they looked at ways we could prevent it from hitting us with cool graphics detailing what devices we have and what would happen to the rock. I think the most effective way they presented was planting a nuke on it, but they mentioned there is an international treaty that says we can't use nukes in space. They then went onto other ways but I forgot what they were.

I get your point and I'm not agreeing or disagreeing. Just that your post reminded me of that episode. :)
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NuclearDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 08:25 PM
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4. Oh, quit yer whinin' Midwest, ash is good for your skin!
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Kennah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 08:46 PM
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5. Covers up the orange
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 09:09 PM
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18. can we get a box of it shipped to the ickyleaker?
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 11:23 PM
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41. It's a very good exfoliant
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Curmudgeoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 08:50 PM
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6. Did you always want to visit Yellowstone?
I keep putting it off. Maybe it is time to get there before it is gone.

So where do I book my vacation plans?
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 08:52 PM
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8. I will wait till it blows, then it will come to me
:rofl:
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Curmudgeoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 09:00 PM
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11. But...but...but...I want to see Old Faithful. nt
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 08:52 PM
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9. If you're downwind, don't bother.
Yellowstone will come to you.

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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 08:56 PM
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10. Great minds think alike :) (nt)
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 09:06 PM
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13. OK, I'll bite. Who's the other one?





















:P
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 09:09 PM
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17. Go see it, but not because if the supervolcano blows, Yellowstone will be gone
Go because it's beautiful and if the supervolcano blows, you will be gone.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 09:00 PM
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12. That's one of the largest Super volcanoes in the world!
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 09:06 PM
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15. Five times larger?
That's "five times larger than the swelling in the mid-1990s that led to the word 'Supervolcano' entering the English language and the making of at least five disaster movies on supervolcanoes and/or plain-old-regular-sized volcanoes".

Including the one posted at YouTube, and the one starring James Bond from that Abba movie, and Mrs. Terminator.

I'm not ready to panic yet. But then again, I live near Philadelphia.

--d!
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 09:11 PM
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19. Don't panic
It wastes your energy. If this supervolcano goes, we all go, even in Philadelphia. But, that said, we don't have the technology to do anything at all about it, so the worry is non-productive. Panic, even more so.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 09:44 PM
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32. The one with James Bond is clearly based on Mt St. Helens
an actual volcano that actually blew.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 09:16 PM
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21. This, like the sun going out, is an eventuality I intentionally ignore.
I'll just hug my family very tightly. Limited nuclear war is "survivable". But not Yellowstone.

PB
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 09:18 PM
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22. And this is what they're TELLING us.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 09:19 PM
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23. Didn't we recall ALL the ambassadors recently?
:shrug:

Probably just related to WikiLeaks or something.

PB
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 11:42 PM
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48. "They."
:shrug:
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 09:20 PM
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24. Hey does anyone know if my hippy ass in Oregon would survive something like this?
Just...wondering.

PB
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 09:38 PM
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29. Hopefully us on the West Coast gets a pass
as the wind currents blow for the most part from West to East. We are all goners if it's the big one, but let's hope that the Mid-West, East, and South are the only ones taken out with a moderate explosion.

But Oregon is so close, it probably a goner no matter how the wind blows.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 09:54 PM
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33. Yeah, I was looking at the blast radius map and it looks like Oregon would be very dicey.
Edited on Wed Feb-09-11 09:56 PM by Poll_Blind
Maybe hightailing it up into Canada and not stopping till I hit the North Pole...

It really depends on which blast radius map you look at though. If we did survive I'm hoping the Canadians would claim the territory before the Chinese would.

PB
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 11:36 PM
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43. Why does it matter?
:shrug:
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 11:40 PM
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46. Oh oh, somebody's getting angry!
:rofl:

PB
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 11:41 PM
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47. If you say so.
:shrug:
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 09:27 PM
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27. If you read the article...
you'll see that the headline in sensationalist. It clearly states in the article that the rise has slowed. And a brief perusal of the USGS website describes this activity as normal.

I'll defer to the experts on this. Isn't much I can do about it anyway.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 09:35 PM
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28. Heh
Watching the supervolcano movie right now and they are saying the same thing ;)
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 09:39 PM
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30. Yeah...
we live in a blip of time in a geologic sense. The odds of the volcano actually blowing are minute. If the scientists are wrong, there's not much anyone can do. Several years ago, the caldera was rising quite a bit. And, at any rate, there's other eruptions that could occur that would be less traumatic to the planet. The belief that the volcano is "overdue" is untrue, based upon geologists' calculations.
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agentS Donating Member (922 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 09:58 PM
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34. The only safe place to be when a supervolcano blows
would be Earth orbit.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 10:59 PM
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38. And wouldn't it look just fucking awesome from there?
It might be tinged with quite a bit of sadness at the end of an epoch, but man, talk about cool pyrotechnics!
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 10:01 PM
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35. I went there 2 years ago.
Here are my pictures from it:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/8601704@N06/sets/72157619617088166/
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LearnedHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 11:34 PM
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42. Jeeeeee-bus, those are beautiful pics!
I used to go to Yellowstone every year. Haven't been in about 10 years now, and I miss it terribly. Your pics sure capture the awesome beauty of the place.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 01:09 AM
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50. Thanks... we got really lucky with the weather.
We went at the end of September and my sister was there the week before us and it was stormy every day she was there, but every day we were there, it was clear and 75 for the high... perfect weather and the aspen trees were at their peak of yellow... we just got lucky on the weather and scenery and the photos reflect that fact.
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Stardust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 11:38 PM
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45. Very beautiful pix...NatGeo quality. Thanks. nt
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 01:12 AM
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51. Thank you,
although to me they are just snapshots... I just picked the best ones out of maybe 400 digital snapshots I took over a 4-day period. We were very lucky with the weather... crystal-clear and sunny and 75 degrees every day we were there, and very low crowds (end of September). The brilliant sunshine made for bright colors, especially among the aspen trees.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 11:36 PM
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44. Aw shit, that one will kill us all
All being the Northwest, Midwest, California and the Southwest

Fuck
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Esse Quam Videri Donating Member (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 08:46 AM
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52. Taking a week trip to Yellowstone this June.
Can't wait. Yellowstone is truly an amazing place. There is no other place on earth like it.
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 08:52 AM
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53. And I'm pretty confident (as geologists seem to be)...
that you'll be able to visit and have a wonderful time. The headline of the article is sensationalist and over-dramatic. The good stuff is in the body of the article itself.
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