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Sebass1271 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 08:32 PM
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So- The DREAM ACT didn't pass?
Gosh, i feel so depressed. I knew a couple of good students dreaming for this to become a reality.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 08:34 PM
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1. It's a shame -kicking these kids out of the only country they ever knew is heartless
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Sebass1271 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 08:36 PM
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3. Can they bring it up again and try to vote on it before
the next congress?
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 08:51 PM
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6. Not likely. Harry must have thought he had the votes.
Kay Hagin's nay vote blows my mind.
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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 10:12 PM
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10. Maybe he did have the 5 votes and the 5 dem's caved at the last minute
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 10:14 PM
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11. That was my thought.
Or (R) votes he thought he had.

Then again, this was just cloture. He can bring it back up while courting the asian/hispanic vote to back it.
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Sebass1271 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 08:35 PM
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2. Why did Harry call it for a vote if he didn't have the votes to
pass it then? I don't understand!. : (:eyes:
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 08:43 PM
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4. To use it as a hammer
during the next election cycle. The GOP is still trying to get Hispanic voters and having them on record to refuse to allow good kids to stay in the country even though they are here illegally through no fault of their own wont help the pukes come 2012.

Unfortunately this never had the votes to pass, especially now that the pukes are fully in bed with the teabagging racists. Putting them on the record is pretty much the only thing he could do.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 08:47 PM
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5. He promised a vote. It puts the heroes and the villains on record, in both parties.
Edited on Sat Dec-18-10 08:49 PM by leveymg
It's one of the more politically astute and principled things Harry has done as Majority Leader.

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/12/18/dream-act-cloture-fails-55-41/

Daniel Foster at NRO did the head count:

Among Republicans, only Sens. Bob Bennett of Utah, Richard Lugar of Indiana, and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska voted for the bill.

On the Democat side, Sens. Jon Tester of Montana, Max Baucus of Montana, Ben Nelson of Nebraska, Mark Pyror of Arkansas, and Kay Hagan of North Carolina voted against the bill.

In an update, Foster notes that Joe Manchin of West Virginia also opposed cloture. Like Lugar, Manchin has to stand for re-election in 2012. It will be interesting to see Lugar attempt to defend this vote in a primary fight in a little over a year, a fight he’s probably guaranteed himself today. Even if one thought that the act had some merit, why would Lugar vote to pass it in a lame-duck session — especially since the budget has yet to be addressed, as well as the START treaty that he has hinted at supporting?

The other Democrats opposing the bill aren’t much of a surprise, except perhaps Kay Hagan in North Carolina. Looks like she’s hearing footsteps, too, even though she’s not up for her second election until 2014.
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Sebass1271 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 09:31 PM
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7. I used to Like Joh Tester. What the heck?
i thought he would support this bill. and Ben Nelson of Nebraska? grrrr....:puke:
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 09:53 PM
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8. In a state like Montana, there are no consequences for this vote. Quite the opposite.
I understand, but that doesn't forgive them. Unfortunately, this sort of thing doesn't get in the way of a Senator's rise within the ranks to a position of power that rivals the Majority Leader. Look at Max Baucus - he's done more damage to the Democrats during the last 2 years than any other single politician in either party.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 10:00 PM
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9. What choice did he have?
In a few weeks time, they will be a huge minority in the house and a small majority in the senate. It was now...or awhile from now.
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