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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 11:30 PM
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TSA does a big lie: new scanners are less revealing. . . . . Oh really?
TSA is making a big thing of their new scanner software. Instead of your body, the new scanners will show a generic looking body shape with little yellow masses showing where contraband might be.

Now here's the deal: TSA says they can make this change economically because they change is only software.



So let me understand this? They're still going scan your junk. They'll still see your hooters. They'll just not show you. Instead they'll show these sanitized versions. Since all the viewing is still in some anonymous room hidden from the public, who knows, really, what the scanner viewing agent is actually seeing?

This is simply no change at all.





The only acceptable change is to do away with the National Crotch Sniffing Agency.

Full story at this link: http://www.ajc.com/business/tsa-tests-scanner-with-824030.html
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Tunkamerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 11:34 PM
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1. and there's all that pesky radiation concentrated on the top few layers of skin
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 11:37 PM
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2. Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Be quiet. I just read a HuffPost story that Michele Bachman said her nude scan will be posted on the internets and youtube. Is everyone excited?
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 11:38 PM
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3. They are actually going to remove the separate room
and the TSA agent viewing the scans will be sitting right there and see the same stick figure.
Which is probably why TSA is doing this, now they won't need a separate room. Of course that does nothing about the radiation exposure.
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 11:39 PM
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4. Stupid waste of money v. 2.0
Corporate welfare for fascists.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 11:52 PM
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7. Yep, big bucks trading hands on this, fear = big money. n/t
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 11:48 PM
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5. Do you really care about a picture of your body?
I find it fascinating that people are so troubled by a fuzzy picture. I guess I am just not concerned about such things. I doubt some TSA worker who has to look at thousands of these things each day is either giggling or getting prurient ideas when they see an X-ray-like picture of me for 3 seconds. If they do, that's their problem.

Being patted down, yes: that's different. I don't like it (and I've had it done). But a picture? Really?

I have a feeling that women are less disturbed by this than men. First, we're used to being the objects of unwanted gazes. Second, if you've been through childbirth, you really lose all sense of shame about your body. I wish men had to go through childbirth: the world would be a lot different.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 11:54 PM
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8. Never mind. You don't get it.
It isn't about pictures.

It isn't even about radiation.

It **IS** about your government violating your rights to privacy and no one catring enough about that to even get pissed off.

Anything this shitfuck agency does is wrong.

Anything.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 11:58 PM
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9. +100000000000 nt
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 12:00 AM
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10. TSA playing urologist/ob-gyn for fun and profit
but but it's for your protection
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 12:09 AM
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11. I get it: I'm just more offended by them rifling through my bag
than seeing a picture of me.

Be consistent. I didn't see you complaining for the last 10 years--since 2001--when they started looking through the panties in your suitcase. That is just as much a violation of your rights to privacy as taking a picture. And a whole lot creepier. You're the one who doesn't get it: you're upset by a picture, but don't care about anything else. It's prudery, plain and simple.

But big, big macho when you hide behind your anonymity on the Internet: you can use words like "shitfuck" and think it's real bold. Yawn.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 12:17 AM
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12. Nice
Edited on Wed Feb-02-11 12:19 AM by Stinky The Clown
TSA has been on my list since Bush invented it. You must have missed all that.

And spare me your snark.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 03:31 PM
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14. Stinky HAS been complaining about it here for years.
I remember because we were a handful of the early voices in protest.

It's puzzling to me as a woman that one could view strangers touching panties in a suitcase as equivalent to a full body image scan, but I respect that we don't all come to the table from the same POV. Quite frankly I find it much more prudish to be creeped out by a stranger touching my clothing when I'm not wearing it but again we all get to define the limits of our own personal space.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 03:55 PM
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16. Oh yeah - WHAT you said. +1 Absolutely.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 04:47 PM
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18. Well said!
I'm with Stinky.
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 09:09 AM
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13. I find it enlightening that people are troubled by it..and I respect their feelings.
I don't need to be personally bothered by it myself to UNDERSTAND THAT OTHER PEOPLE FEEL DIFFERENTLY about it and be sensitive to their objections.
:eyes:
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 03:54 PM
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15. The way radiation is concentrated is a big issue.
just because you have a nonchalant attitude about nudity (which I share, btw) it doesn't mean everyone else does. Something you should respect. I've worked as an artist's model - yet the idea of a government agency claiming the right to see me naked and/or grope my breasts and genitals - just so I can have the freedom of travel - GETS ME FUMING MAD. What really pisses me off, is a government treating the populace like so much cattle.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 11:51 PM
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6. The radiation bothers me. The "revealing" part, I don't care about.
I think there are a lot of people in this country who hadn't taken a good hard look at themselves nude in a full-length mirror until they heard about the scanners, and now they're freaking out.
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 04:46 PM
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17. So if they see a yellow box on the stick figure you are in for a groping...
... so they can figure out what it is.

This improves things how?

And how do we know the yellow box isn't simply generated according to a watch list of people the TSA believes they ought to grope?
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