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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-07-13 11:52 AM
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"The U.S. waterboards." For making that disclosure, a man sits in prison today.
Not even a minimum security prison, either.


Should we, as the people who pay all the bills for all activities of the USG, know when the US tortures prisoners?

Should you, as a human being, know of activities of the USG that may motivate people to attack you?

Should you, as a voter, know when the USG is violating international and domestic law?

I believe the answers to all those questions are "Of course."

Then, why is John Kiriakou in Loreto prison?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiriakou
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-07-13 03:24 PM
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1. Those that ordered the waterboarding
should be in prison, not the whistleblower.

You knew when the nation turned Nazi, when they started waterboarding. Dick Cheney is a little Hitler. I won't name today's Marshal Petain or Quisling for fear of retaliation. You remember retaliation from the days of the Third Reich.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-08-13 02:11 AM
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4. Question:
Is it when someone breaks the law that a nation becomes lawless, or whenthe law is not enforced against the lawbreakers?

After all, a city or town does not become lawless because a murder has been committed there.

Maybe, though, the town does become lawless when the police chief or mayor publicly honors the murderer, knowing exactly what he did, instead of proseccuting him?
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-07-13 09:58 PM
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2. BEcause it's convenient for those in power
The media are their protectors
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-08-13 02:05 AM
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3. "The media are their protectors.'
Yep. And their apologists and propagandists.


The more things change, the more they stay the same.

William Randolph Hearst (/ˈhɜrst/;<1> April 29, 1863 August 14, 1951) was an American newspaper publisher who built the nations largest newspaper chain and whose methods profoundly influenced American journalism.<2> Hearst entered the publishing business in 1887 after taking control of The San Francisco Examiner from his father. Moving to New York City, he acquired The New York Journal and engaged in a bitter circulation war with Joseph Pulitzer's New York World that led to the creation of yellow journalismsensationalized stories of dubious veracity. Acquiring more newspapers, Hearst created a chain that numbered nearly 30 papers in major American cities at its peak. He later expanded to magazines, creating the largest newspaper and magazine business in the world.

He was twice elected as a Democrat to the U.S. House of Representatives, and ran unsuccessfully for Mayor of New York City in 1905 and 1909, for Governor of New York in 1906, and for Lieutenant Governor of New York in 1910. Nonetheless, through his newspapers and magazines, he exercised enormous political influence, and was sometimes blamed for pushing public opinion with his yellow journalism type of reporting in the United States into a war with Spain in 1898.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Randolph_Hearst


Not as though the media helped push the public into backing the Iraqi invasion and occupation, is it? :sarcasm:

And that was even before propagandizing domestically became officially legal for the USG, which did not happen until 2012.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112hr5736ih/pdf/BILL...

(Lesser evil strikes again!)
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