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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-05-13 04:33 AM
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Last year's news, but bears repeating, IMO. Every day, if necessary.
The states Ohio, Florida, Virginia, Colorado, Iowa, Nevada, Wisconsin, and New Hampshire account for 95 of the 270 electoral college votes needed to win the election.

But just because a state is a battleground doesn't mean the whole state swings. Within each of these states, the presidential race will likely be decided by a small number of counties local campaign war zones that, in a very tight race, have the potential to determine the next President.

In each of the eight swing states, we've identified one county that went to George W. Bush in 2004, swung to Obama in 2008, and could now make or break the 2012 election for either candidate. We've broken down the list here, along with the voting patterns, economic conditions, and other key factors that could decide how each county swings this November.


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/swing-state-counties-flo...




The article does indeed go on to give a good breakdown, county by county for a 8--count 'em, 8--counties. I, however, will only give the names of the counties.


Henrico County, Virginia

Hillsborough County, Florida

Washoe County, Nevada

Jefferson County, Colorado

Wood County, Ohio

Cedar County, Iowa

Brown County, Wisconsin

Hillsborough County, New Hampshire



Obama raised almost a billion dollars for his 2012 campaign. Romney raised almost a billion dollars too. And that's without money from the national and state parties. And only God knows what else.

For votes from 8 counties. 8 counties.



By the way, a couple of those counties have a healthy smattering of Mormons, which might help explain why we saw 3 Mormons running for President in 2012, two in the Republican Party and one in the Justice Party. Not that there's anything wrong with that (unless you mind the secretiveness, involuntary baptisms, etc.).

I bet you can line up a lot of info with those 8 counties For instance, the D of J went into a few states right before the 2012 Presidential election to challenge their voting situation (for want of a better term). My guess is that those states would line up with the above info.

(Wasn't it funny how Obama's D of J wasn't bothered by any voting situation at all until just before the 2012 Presidential election? 'Cause who cared about the 2010 Congressional, which brought us Republican re-districting, or local elections between 2009 and 2012? Pffft )
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-05-13 05:57 AM
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1. Excellent post, No Elephants!
Edited on Fri Jul-05-13 06:00 AM by Enthusiast
I had no idea. I like you point about Obama's DOJ and voting. I have long suspected that his position was contrary to the national will on a Republican majority. What could we have done under these circumstances. Remember when the first black president was elected we heard TV talking heads proclaim, "He will have trouble with the liberal base." I didn't understand what they meant until the hippy punching started. Look where it has taken the nation, straight down a shit hole.

I think the President grew up in an anti-liberal environment. Any liberal inclination on his part is contrived, part of a costume.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-05-13 07:27 AM
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2. Thanks! We wuz conned.
Edited on Fri Jul-05-13 07:48 AM by No Elephants
You would think Obama would definitely be a liberal.


His granddad was a World War II vet. What he did after that is somewhat mysterious.

Supposedly, he was a furniture salesman, but he and his wife and daughter moved so often, ending up in Hawaii, which was not even a state at the time. Did he find openings in furniture stores all over the country wherever it struck his fancy to light?

Also, Grandmas apparently met him at a dance and secretly married him ASAP, I think while she was still in high school. (Her wiki now says the night of her senior prom, but I distinctly remember reading in some relevant wiki that it was a few months before graduation. And, her family was supposedly very strict, yet she went unescorted to dances in another town?)

His mother's high school classmates say that the President's mom was an adventurous, free spirit type, which in the 50s also seems liberal.

In any event, her parents watched their very young daughter (19) have a child out of wedlock* with a married man from Africa and remained loyal to her and her son.

Also, Grandma worked in a bank. I think people make too much of that because, at one point, almost every bank teller was given the title V.P. I am told that banks used to give out titles instead of salary, meaning they paid very low, but everyone was a "vice president." But, whatever, my only point is that Grandma had a career outside the home long after Rosie the Riveter had traded her blow torch for an electric vacuum cleaner.

All of the above seems very modern for a couple born in the Midwest in 1918 and 1922, respectively.

Mom then marries an Indonesian Muslim and goes to live in Indonesia. Also not very conservative-sounding.


Mom's career path in third world countries would also seem to indicate a liberal--but then, we also see her wheeling and dealing with the Rockefeller Foundation and the Geithners.

And, as we know, Hawaii is a blue state the whole time Obama is growing up there. For instance, most Democrats voted for DOMA in 1994, but Akaka and Inouye both voted against it.


Supposedly, the first place Obama worked after getting out of Columbia has CIA connections. (This bit, I am just repeating from other posters. I have no clue and I stink at conspiracy theories.)

Then he goes off to Chicago to work for and with liberals, like Ayers and Wright?

But he turns out to be center right? As I said, we wuz conned.



*AFAIK, the President's parents never married. If they did have a ceremony of some kind, any alleged marriage would have been invalid anyway because Obama Sr. already had a wife in Africa.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-05-13 02:13 PM
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3. We remain suspicious.
The liberal things seem TOO liberal for the time, historically. An interracial relationship at that time was actually still illegal in several states. The liberal stuff seems contrived to me. Again, too liberal.

Ayers, rather than a terrorist (someone was palling around with) was very likely deep cover in the weather underground back in the day. The FBI and CIA had every single anti-war group under the closest scrutiny.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-06-13 07:40 AM
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4. In fairness, I believe interracial relationships were not unusual in Hawaii.
Edited on Sat Jul-06-13 07:43 AM by No Elephants
Not necessarily involving an African, though.


Also, her classmates in high school, before she even got to Hawaii, said what a freethinker she was.



Do you think Obama's grandparents sacrificed their daughter that way, so she could give birth to an interracial son who would eventually become the first African American President? Or do you think she was CIA at 18?


About Ayers' possibly being CIA: Maybe that's why we had prosecutorial misconduct in the Ayers case?



Larry Grathwohl, a Federal Bureau of Investigation informant in the Weatherman group from the fall of 1969 to the spring of 1970, stated that "Ayers, along with Bernardine Dohrn, probably had the most authority within the Weatherman"


snip


During this time Ayers and fellow member Bernardine Dohrn married, and the two remained fugitives together, changing identities, jobs and locations.

In 1973, new information came to light about FBI operations targeted against Weather Underground and the New Left, all part of a series of covert and often illegal FBI projects called COINTEL.<19> Due to the illegal tactics of FBI agents involved with the program, government attorneys requested all weapons- and bomb-related charges be dropped against the Weather Underground, including charges against Ayers.<20>




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers

Had a mistrial in the Ellsberg case. Both Ayers and Ellsberg also turned themselves in.

I hope Ayers was not CIA.

I first read his wiki in 2007-08, when I was heavily into defending Obama against both Republicans and fans of others in the Democratic primary field. And, based on his wiki, I kind of liked Ayers. (His wiki then used to say that he had blown up a toilet in the Pentagon in the middle of the night, but now says only bombings, including the Pentagon.)

Ayers said Obama should be tried for war crimes.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/20 ... /



Obama lied in several places in his bio. And I knew it in 2008. And I still rationalized it away.

BTW, some are suspicous of Snowden, saying he hasn't revealed anything new. And Ellsberg has been supporting Snowden.

I hope Snowden is what he seems because I have been rooting for him and I can't seem to stop rooting for him.

Sorry. This post is a little scattered.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-18-13 04:07 AM
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5. kick
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-18-13 08:17 AM
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6. Thanks for the kick.
I guess I missed your last post there. Interesting thoughts.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-19-13 11:07 AM
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7. Another post exemplifying my adult ADD, but thank you.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-18-13 10:35 PM
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8. forgot to mention: Ayers, who is independently wealthy, and his wife
raised the kids of the Weathermen who died in the Greenwich Village townhouse that exploded.

Supposedly, they exploded it accidentally, while they were making bombs.

I know a couple who lived in Greenwhich when they were newlyweds. He was an intern in a Village hospital. They had parked a car near that block. The car was registered to his parents in Jersey. Within a day or two of the explosion, the feds showed up at the parents home, wanting to know why their car had been parked there.

Fast forward many decades:

A man born in Egypt, now a US citizen, works in my building. The day after 911, the feds showed up, asking the building manager why the Egyptian had not reported to work on 911. (Coincidentally, he had been called for jury duty and, on 911, had reported for same, so his alibi was bulletproof, literally and figuratively.

I learned this when I suggested he might help translate Arabic phone calls because I had heard that, as of 911, the govt was at least two years behing in translating them. He just kept saying, "How they know? How they know?"

Good question. How did they know that an Egyptian somewhere in Boston had not shown up for a relatively obscure job in a relatively obscure building the day before?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqLCyQqhueY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZchMjiFIuK8
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-19-13 04:56 AM
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9. Nice tunes. I don't know anything about Ayers. But I trust no one.
The day after. Sounds like they had a fully fledged illegal NSA surveillance in operation before the planes crashing into buildings thing even happened. What does this tell us?
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-19-13 10:41 AM
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10. After I posted, I wondered if the building manager may have called the govt, thinking
Edited on Thu Dec-19-13 10:44 AM by No Elephants
it was just too much of a coincidence that his one and only Muslim Middle Eastern employee got called for jury duty on 911.

I don't remember how long he had been employed here as of 911. Maybe he was still new enough then to raise suspicion. (Remember, the terrorists had flown out of Boston.)
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