can obama win without california?

[rampart]

how many popular votes in california will obama gain by rigid enforcement of federal law against medical marijuana?

by my reckoning he will lose those few voters wh actually benefit by medical marijuana, but those votes cost him the electoral votes of our most populous state?

further brutal repression of the occupation in california, with federal support and encouragement, may not gain him as many votes as his team predicts.

add a few other states which have legalized medical marijuana, all democratic strongholds, to the red map, and i predict an epic landslide that will cover us all in "conservative" slime for, well 4 years at least.

[Gman]

1. Obama will carry California

It's a moot point.

[Le Taz Hot]

2. He won't win here with the numbers he had in 2008

but he'll take California.

[Irishonly]

3. He will win here

I don't think people are going to shoot themselves in the foot.

[Kahuna]

4. yawn...

:boring:

[Chan790]

5. Probably not but there's a better chance of Obama winning KS, UT & ID...

than there is of Obama losing CA. Let's put it this way...if Obama loses CA, expect that it wouldn't matter because it'd be the short end of a Goldwater-level defeat.

[lunatica]

6. Yeah, and it'll be so much better if California votes for Newt or Romney?

Many Democrats in California may not be too happy with Obama but we're not stupid when it comes to National and Presidential elections. Because of the growth of the Latino Vote, among other things California has voted for a Democrat in the last five Presidential elections. This year Latinos under the age of 21 outnumber whites in the same age group in California. Within ten years they will be young adults who outnumber whites and every decade after that they will gain in numbers in every generation group. And they don't want to go back to Mexico or be forced to show their papers or have to prove they're Americans. So unless the GOP becomes Latino friendly guess what? No Republican will get the majority Presidential vote in California for a very long time, unless they find a way of stealing it.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

7. I am not sure it is possible for the Democratic party not to win California next time

[Pirate Smile]

8. He wont have to - he'll win Cali easily.

[davidpdx]

9. Obama will take my birth state of California

and my home state of Oregon as well as Washington state.

[Davis_X_Machina]

10. Pot: Left::Guns: right. n/t

[Codeine]

11. He's not going to lose California over marijuana.

The world is bigger than your bong, dude. :eyes:

[marmar]

12. I'm as pro-legalization as anyone, but I recognize that it's kind of a boutique issue....

..... The masses don't care that much, at least not enough to impact their vote.

[bemildred]

13. He won't have to. nt

[villager]

14. Obama won and we're still covered in conservative slime!

Alas...

[bigwillq]

15. No (nt)

[taught_me_patience]

16. Lay down the bong... Obama takes Cali by 7-10. n/t

[BlueIris]

17. I don't believe so, no. And I doubt he'll get Michigan, Florida,

Ohio or Missouri, either. How people expect him to pull out victory without these critical states is beyond me.

[SidDithers]

18. Obama has Cali on lock...

California is trending bluer over time, and has not voted GOP for president since 1988. But Barack Obama dominated there far more than John Kerry, Al Gore, and even Bill Clinton did. His 24-point win over John McCain was a bigger margin of victory than any candidate of either party has gotten since FDR routed Alf Landon in 1936--besting even California residents Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan in their 1972 and 1984 landslides.

And for Obama, there's no looking back. In our latest poll, he beats all the Republicans by at least 21 points, and his approval rating has not faltered since we last surveyed the state in late January. Then, 53% approved, the same as now. His disapproval rating has only ticked up to 43% from 41%. This is the rare state where voters haven't soured on him over the course of this year--even in his native Hawaii, his approval margin took a 15-point nosedive between March and October. Ahead of California, only three states of the 37 in which we've polled Obama this year see him better--the aforementioned Hawaii and the reliably blue New England states of Rhode Island and Vermont.

The president leads Mitt Romney by 21 points (57-36), almost unchanged from 56-36 in the previous survey. Obama tops new frontrunner Newt Gingrich by 26 points (60-34), up two from 58-34. The others were not tested last time. Ron Paul trails by 25 points (57-32), and Herman Cain, Rick Perry, and Michele Bachmann each by 29 (61-32, and 60-31 for the latter two).

It's no wonder Obama is doing so well. Even ignoring his +10 approval spread, none of the GOP contenders has a favorability rating approaching where a competitive presidential candidate would want to be. Romney's -21 is best off, followed by Bachmann's -23, Cain's and Gingrich's -27, Paul's -31, and Perry's astonishing -53. So Obama more than doubles and almost triples his approval margin in the horseraces, and the Republicans roughly match their favorability spreads, suggesting that here, the vote is more a referendum on the Republicans than on the president.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2011/11/obama-has-cali-on-lock.html

Sid

[fishwax]

19. lol -- n/t