Pic: Oakland protester hit by Mercedes

[Fire Walk With Me]

http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/occupy-oakland-two-protestors-hit-by-mercedes-expected-to-live/news/2011/11/03/29570



Man, there's some sucky people in Oakland. All seemingly rich or in authority or following authority. Let's hope this cleans up your city, good folks working for change!

Edit/Update: William Zantzinger, they're saying on teh interwebz...innocent until proven guilty...thanks to DUer "C" for the linkage:

[nc4bo]

1. So did the police officially let the driver go in this case?

Hope a tag number can get out there!

[PETRUS]

2. Plate # is all over Twitter. nt

[nc4bo]

3. +1. nt

[Fire Walk With Me]

4. Excellent, thank you.

Adding new villain to this melee in 5, 4, 3...

[nc4bo]

9. Custom plate?

AJHJR? Just saw that on the livestream. Is that the #?

Hmmm.....Hope the 'net 007 crew can get some more info.

[Fire Walk With Me]

14. Anonymous MUST follow Twitter to some degree, or more!

[EFerrari]

22. No. Report is, he was taken out of the crowd and arrested.

Which was probably the right thing to do.

[nc4bo]

27. k, thanks for the info EFerrari.

I was having a really bad time imagining that someone would just be let go without even a citation.

:hi:

[EFerrari]

41. Yeah. It takes a while to filter it all

but eventually we find out what happened. Still faster than the bulldog edition, though! :)

[Fire Walk With Me]

31. Where do the rumors of his having been let go originate? Sheesh.

The problem with the internet is that anyone can lie. -Gandhi

[garybeck]

32. San Fran Chronicle reported "then let the driver leave the scene..."

Police arrived, questioned the driver and several witnesses, then let the driver leave the scene

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/11/02/BA5G1LQ06S.DTL#ixzz1ccU1rmGA

[Fire Walk With Me]

33. Okay, thanks.

[pacalo]

37. Did Gandhi really say that?

[Fire Walk With Me]

39. Incredible, isn't it?

[pacalo]

43. It's up to here in aweness.

[EFerrari]

38. LOL

[gateley]

5. They let the driver go????? Un fucking believable. If a protester

had accidentally hit the Benz with a sign, you KNOW his or her ass would be in jail right now.

The link says someone reported the guy was in a pool of blood (or bloody) -- AND THEY LET THE FUCKING DRIVER GO!

They were both alive -- but any updates?

[Fire Walk With Me]

6. I'm told by a Tweeter that the reddish color around his head is a sweater.

[MADem]

21. That's what it looks like to me as well. nt

[gateley]

44. Thats a BIG relief! Thank you!! nt

[Warren DeMontague]

7. I say! You dented my hood!

Ruffian!

[Fire Walk With Me]

12. He dislodged my supply of Grey Poupon!

[chill_wind]

8. Reportedly hit not one, but *two* protesters

According to the link, he then hit a woman when he backed up.

"Witnesses also report the driver of the Mercedes appeared to have lost patience and, as one said, “got frustrated and hit the gas.”

My god :-(

[pacalo]

18. I've got an editor's retraction...

Should read:

"Witnesses also report the driver of the Mercedes appeared to have lost patience and, as one said, “got frustrated arrogantly and viciously hit the gas.”


More like it, right?

[Supply Side Jesus]

10. In my experience you generally don't arrest a driver after an accident

unless it was an intentional act of assault/attempted murder or the person is under the influence.

so let's all calm down.

On a sidenote, anything more symbolic that a Mercedes hitting a 99% Rally-er?

[nc4bo]

11. Symbolic beyond belief.

Right up there with the police macing and stomping all over these protesters.

[Shanti Mama]

13. Correct. Let's not all jump all over the lack of arrest.

On the other hand, one does wonder what would have happened if his vehicle had been nicked by a sign...

[Supply Side Jesus]

23. ya....no doubt

n/t

[greyl]

16. The accounts sure make it sound like it was intentional. nt

[Fire Walk With Me]

17. Eyewitnesses appear to be saying that he got impatient, hit the gas, hit one man, then backed

up into a woman, IIRC.

[Supply Side Jesus]

20. well, hitting the gas does not prove intent to harm

it does prove careless driving resulting in injury, even possibly Reckless Driving R.I.I.

summons the driver and let the judge deal with sentence.

[Fire Walk With Me]

30. Hitting the gas...with people both in front and behind him?

After he hit one man, he supposedly then backed into another.

[Supply Side Jesus]

42. the person was in front of the car when he was hit

doesn't prove beyond a reasonable doubt he hit the gas to INTEND to strike the person. and after hitting him he back up striking another. Now, if he hit the gas and hit him again, then we can talk

[Hassin Bin Sober]

52. Maybe he thought the car would magically pass through the guy in front of his bumper?

:shrug:

Well it IS a Mercedes.

[nadinbrzezinski]

19. According to witnesses there was malice involved

OPD investigating.

Give me a sec and will give you thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2233131

[MADem]

26. The irony wasn't lost on me, certainly.

Lovey and Thurston are probably still a bit discombobulated by all the brouhaha, I'm sure!

[gateley]

45. You're right. We'd just like to have SEEN him hauled off to the clink. nt

[tblue]

15. It would be a Mercedes.

If I had to predict who would lose their cool and hit an OWS protester on purpose, I would imagine it would be somebody who's rich and drives a Mercedes. Not saying all Mercedes drivers, or even all rich folks, are bad like this creep.. But you can't make this stuff up. I hope that poor hurt guy is okay. There's a lot of blood.

We're looking at a hit & run and attempted vehicular manslaughter, me thinks. A felony for sure. That is some serious time behind bars.

[Hardrada]

35. I used to own a Mercedes and though I thought I was grand

I never would have hit anyone with it. We aren't all bad.

[tblue37]

40. No, you're just drawn that way. (Sorry--I can't resist a set-up.) nt

[gateley]

46. So did I. And a Jaguar. And I picked up hitch hikers if they

looked okay. :)

[Hardrada]

51. Good for you. I have always been somewhat wary, I fear.

;)

[GSLevel9]

49. You can lease a Mercedes for $300/mo... About the same as a Prius nt

[nadinbrzezinski]

24. Other thread

Almost as it happened...lord I am tired

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2233131

[A-Schwarzenegger]

25. William Zantzinger???

Anybody hear of Hattie Carroll?

[blogslut]

28. Yeah

I was just gonna bring that up.

[starroute]

29. William Zantzinger is a name from 50 years ago

Immortalized by Dylan in "The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll." So if they're saying it on the Interwebz, it's by way of comparison and not identification.

William Zanzinger killed poor Hattie Carroll
With a cane that he twirled around his diamond ring finger
At a Baltimore hotel society gath’rin’
And the cops were called in and his weapon took from him
As they rode him in custody down to the station
And booked William Zanzinger for first-degree murder
But you who philosophize disgrace and criticize all fears
Take the rag away from your face
Now ain’t the time for your tears

William Zanzinger, who at twenty-four years
Owns a tobacco farm of six hundred acres
With rich wealthy parents who provide and protect him
And high office relations in the politics of Maryland
Reacted to his deed with a shrug of his shoulders
And swear words and sneering, and his tongue it was snarling
In a matter of minutes on bail was out walking
But you who philosophize disgrace and criticize all fears
Take the rag away from your face
Now ain’t the time for your tears


http://www.latimes.com/news/obituaries/la-me-zantzinger10-2009jan10,0,4825718.story

January 10, 2009

He thrust a racial profanity at Carroll and struck her with his cane. She served him his bourbon and then stepped away. Hours later, she collapsed and died of a stroke, and William Devereux Zantzinger, at 24, was charged with homicide. Because of several inconclusive factors, including Carroll's already poor health, the charge was reduced to manslaughter.

The court case of Zantzinger, who died Jan. 3 at 69, received national attention at a volatile moment in the civil rights movement. Bob Dylan immortalized Zantzinger and Carroll in a protest song about race and class, “The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll,” which appeared on the folk singer's 1964 album "The Times They Are A-Changin'." . . .

Outside his circle of friends, Zantzinger did not like to draw attention. But he did in 1991 when he was indicted for collecting more than $64,000 in rent on properties he had not owned for more than five years. He lost the homes, described as rural shacks in the county's Patuxent Woods subdivision, because of failure to pay taxes. Nevertheless, Zantzinger continued to collect rent -- suing some when they did not pay and evicting others. He also raised the rent on the properties. The homes were located off a dirt road and lacked indoor plumbing. . . .

He spent his later years working in relative quiet as a foreclosure auctioneer. . . . Perhaps predictably, Zantzinger was no fan of the Dylan song or its composer, whom he called a "no-account" who had distorted the facts of the original case. He told Dylan biographer Howard Sounes, "I should have sued him and put him in jail."

[Fire Walk With Me]

34. Gotcha, metaphor. I do it all the time and now I know what it feels like to be on the receiving end

:)

[pacalo]

36. This reminds me of the scene in "Michael Clayton".

For those who haven't seen it, George Clooney's character is an attorney who serves as a "fixer" for a high-scale law firm. The scene establishes George Clooney's role with a middle-of-the-night frantic call from a wealthy guy, with all the excess luxury possessions, who has just committed a hit & run while under the influence. Clooney had to drop everything & go to the client's home to advise him & make the client's world alright again.

That picture speaks volumes about the driver's attitude. Arms up, elbows out, cellphone propped up on his left shoulder, & look at the expression on his face. I see arrogance & smugness that would lead him to believe he could have his attorney fix it & make it go away. I don't see a clue that he's sorry & worried about those he hit.


/spelling

[robdogbucky]

47. The Clayton scene was a re-do of a scene from Bonfire of the Vanities

Now that is appropo. I am speaking of the book, not the movie, which I have never seen, but would have to include the killing of an innocent in the middle of the night by the wealthy protaganist and his attempts to cover it up as I recall.

Irony upon irony

[Huey P. Long]

48. Thank you for posting Fire Walk With Me. -eom

[snooper2]

50. Mercedes-Benz is a German manufacturer of automobiles, buses, coaches, and trucks.

In 1928, Mercedes-Benz produced the legendary racing car SSK.
Four coats of paint are sprayed on the cars between every hand polishing.
The design of the seat is done with consultation from an orthopedic physician.
Enhanced disc brakes on all four wheels come as a standard feature in every Mercedes Benz Car.
The 1980 200T 2.0L had 108HP and 125lbs of torque

[SomethingFishy]

53. Oakland protester hit by Mercedes...

Protester arrested for destruction of property.