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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 08:17 PM
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Rick Perry is nothing to fear, flash in the pan most likely
I have serious doubts he will be able to actually win the nomination. Either Romney or someone else not yet in the race will stop this guy. I'm not scared of Rick Perry, he doesn't have a wide appeal and is most likely going to fade fast.
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 08:19 PM
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1. I heard the EXACT same sentiments
uttered about both Ronald Reagan and Bush the Younger.
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 08:21 PM
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3. My thoughts exactly.
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RevStPatrick Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 08:23 PM
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4. Yep. Exactly!
The minute Dubya announced he was running, I knew he was going to be the next president. Because they were gonna steal it for him. I get the same feeling about this Perry dufus...
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 08:28 PM
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6. I also heard the same thing about Rudy in 2008
Remember how he was a sure bet before the primaries?
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 08:34 PM
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11. Exactly... Every time I hear someone voice this,like Déjà vu....
George W Bush*.... he could never win the nomination, right? Everyone can see how stupid he is and how entitled he is and after all his Dad couldn't even win reelection. Right? sigh....
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 08:39 PM
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13. No... both Reagan and Bush II had strong appeal among moderates... Perry doesn't

Bush II and his "Compassionate Conservatism" schtick appeal to middle-of-the roaders in 2000.

His "No Child Left Behind" sounded almost progressive.



Reagan appealed to working class Democrats.



Perry doesn't appeal to anyone to the left of Attila the Hun.
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cantbeserious Donating Member (270 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 08:21 PM
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2. Rick Perry Is Supported By Dominionists
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 08:24 PM
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5. And Americans are stupid enough to fall for his sales pitch
At least some are..........
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judgegblue Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 08:30 PM
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7. Geo W, Reagan, Rand Paul Enough said!
We can' t afford to underestimate the ability of the American voter to be duped by of the mega corporate media and the fanatics on the extreme right.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 08:42 PM
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16. Apples and Oranges on all three accounts

A) Reagan had strong appeal among moderates.. and we hadn't had a conservative President in so long that average Americans didn't know yet how dangerous and nuts they were.

B) Bush II, with "Compassionate Conservatism" and "No Child Left Behind", has some Clintonesque sounding stuff that appealed to moderates.

C) Rand Paul won in a very RED state. He wouldn't win a nationwide election.
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judgegblue Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 08:48 PM
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18. The point is that these incompetent disasters were able to convince voters
That they cared about the problems of the average American.
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7wo7rees Donating Member (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 09:53 PM
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26. Reminds me of that H.L. Mencken quote.
"No one ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the masses."
Change money to a U.S. election.
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DuckBurp Donating Member (172 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 08:32 PM
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8. Every time he has run for office, I thought there was no way he would win
In the primary for governor, how could he defeat Senator Kay Hutchison's machine backed by the Bushies? He did. How could he defeat former Houston mayor Bill White in the general election? He did. The money and the good-ole-boys here in Texas are for him. Don't mis-underestimate him again.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 08:32 PM
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9. No matter WHAT Republic runs, s/he will be devastating to freedom. nt
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BlueDemKev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 08:34 PM
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10. I disagree.
Rick Perry is the ideal candidate for today's Republican Party. A right-wing extremist, rabidly anti-gov't (at least verbally), broad-shouldered, good-hair guy. The Republicans will never nominate a Mormon who until he set his eyes on the presidency, was a pro-choice, anti-gun, pro-health reform, moderate New England Republican.
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Chipper Chat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 08:40 PM
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14. Amen brother.
All the Perrymachine has to do is steal the election in Florida and Ohio and he will be in. THe small red states like Indiana that Obama won in '08 will swing back to republican - mainly because the 'Obama miracle' has faded and progressive turnout wont be there. I hate that this is the case but it is.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 09:17 PM
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21. I don't see Perry getting knocked off a Mormon
Edited on Mon Aug-29-11 09:30 PM by rocktivity
not even a "moderate" one like Huntsman. And if the young people, minorities, moderates and independents who put Obama over don't want more of the same of what he's been doing, they'll stay home.

:scared:
rocktivity
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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 08:37 PM
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12. Most who have seen him rise from the ashes in both 2006 & 2010, & put behind him issues that would


....destroy any other known candidate, and have seen him repeated ability to re-create himself, and never pay a price, are not reflexively optimistic.

It is not just that he is the slickest, most brazen liar ever to emerge from the salon.

He gets away with it, and he has access to the purse strings of some of the most evil humans ever to have walked the earth.











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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 08:44 PM
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17. Winning in VERY RED Texas is much different than winning Nation-wide

Bernie Sanders wins big in Vermont, but he wouldn't carry any other state.


Perry couldn't win anywhere but the very deep south.
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BlueDemKev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 09:02 PM
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19. That's what some folks said about George W. Bush....
...and he served two terms as president.
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subterranean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 09:45 PM
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25. I'm not as optimistic as you are.
I believe if Perry is nominated, he would win all of the South plus the Corn Belt states and some states in the West. Not because the voters there like Rick Perry, but because we're really only given two choices, D or R, and some people will vote for the R no matter who it is. This will be a much closer election than 2008, unless the economy stages a strong recovery next year, which I don't see happening.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 08:41 PM
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15. you should be taking him seriously. It's not very smart or knowledgable not to.
He reportedly has a very adept political team, he's going to have boatloads of money. He appeals to the base and is acceptable to the power pukes. He has never lost an election. He now leads in all the polls.

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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 09:11 PM
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20. You underestimate him at your own peril. n/t
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 09:20 PM
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22. No. Rick Perry is very dangerous. He oozes the charismatic grade of stupid that wins elections.
As mentioned earlier, people laughed at Ronald Reagan, and at George W. Bush.

Back in the 1920's, most Germans laughed at Adolf Hitler, and thought he was too batshit to get political power. Look where that got them.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 09:46 AM
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32. More important, look at his competition.
Edited on Tue Aug-30-11 10:04 AM by rocktivity
Two Mormons, two women, two perennial losers, and a libertarian. I think Romney's the one who's a flash in the pan. Jon Huntsman is the only one who comes across as a "sensible" McCain-esque moderate--and he's one of the Mormons!

:eyes:
rocktivity
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 09:26 PM
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23. We should be taking all these clowns seriously.
Look what happened to the House of Representatives and state governorships in 2010. With Citizens United, Karl Rove will have the necessary money to buy all the purple states in 2012.
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Marie Marie Donating Member (709 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 09:36 PM
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24. Never underestimate the stupidity and gullibility of the American voter.
Or the Republicans ability to gerrymander or steal their way to victory
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 10:06 PM
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27. We still need to push him when we troll
and rant about what a wonderful guy he is. We need them to nominate a nut and he's as big or bigger a nut than Santorrum or Bachman.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 10:07 PM
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28. We thought both one Ronald Wilson Reagan and George W Bush
were nothing to worry about.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 10:20 PM
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29.  i knew about reagan from the 60`s but bush escaped my radar
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DonCoquixote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 11:17 PM
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30. Do not forget
THE GOP is trying to lock Florida with all sorts of nasty voter suppression policies, and if Perry can steal Rubio away from Jeb Bush, the Cubans will hand Florida to him, even if they have to start a few riots.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 11:20 PM
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31. Anyone with views like his (and the other Repuke candidates)
who isn't laughed off the national stage for their extremism needs to be taken very seriously
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