I'm just gonna say this outright...

[Darkhawk32]

The Republican Party is far more of a threat to the lives of Americans and to the United States itself than Al Qaeda could ever dream of being.

Their policies KILL people. They ARE terrorists. Political, social and economic TERRORISTS!

[tkmorris]

1. There is some truth in that

[chervilant]

64. Some truth?!

Our species sports many foibles, but the handful of us whose raison d'etre is ill-gotten power predicated by amassing material wealth is indeed the biggest threat we face.

[russspeakeasy]

67. There is "some" water in the ocean.

[Towlie]

108. Ya think?

What else could you possibly see in that beside truth?

[geckosfeet]

2. Yes. That's true. Euthanize them before they euthanize unto you.

[pleah]

92. I wish it were that easy. ;)

[dennis4868]

3. you are on DU

please replace the word Obama with the word Republican in your statement...that's the DU way!

[Dragonfli]

13. No. they are the terrorists, he only appeases them and gives them what they want

[dennis4868]

15. YEP...

he gave the repubs all of this ---> www.whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com HAHAHA!

[Jackpine Radical]

117. Playing Chamberlain to their Hitler.

[Ken Burch]

34. People who criticize Obama are equally critical of the GOP

None of us let the Right off the hook.

[Jackpine Radical]

118. I'm far more DISAPPROVING of the GOP, but

I reserve the right to be critical of Democratic politicians because they're the ones I work to send to Washington to do things I want to see done. My criticisms of Republicans aren't likely to change the way Republicans act. I can nurture some hope (however delusional) that the Democrats might respond by doing things more to my liking.

[Ken Burch]

119. OK, that's also a valid point.

There isn't anybody, to my knowledge, that is critical of Obama without also being critical of the Right.

[tavalon]

35. Obama is not a terrorist

The Republicans have proven themselves to be terrorists, so despite your pithy comment, it would make no sense to replace words here. Now, if you wanted to call Obama a terrorist appeaser, I might not be able to defend against that, and that in itself is quite sad.

Obama is such an incredibly intelligent, moral, good man, it's really painful for me to realize this late in the game that he's an inept President. He will likely in his future, go on to be an amazing humanitarian like Carter is, but just like Carter, not a good President. And we need, not just a good President, we need a great one in this awful time.

I'm glad that he will go down in history as our first black President. In a better America, that would have happened much sooner. But he will not go down as a great President because he just doesn't have it in him. He doesn't have the Leonine fire, which is too bad since he is a Leo. I would be happy to teach him how to be a Leo. Of course, my lessons would come with extra lessons on how not to appease terrorists. Especially those in Congress. Call it a Lagniappe.

I promise you, no one wants me to stand behind that bully pulpit. I would show him and everyone else how it's done. And I would start by throwing out the Faux "reporter" but it would so not end with that. Not even close. The military and military actions would be on the table and Social Security and Medicare would not. I would use FDR as my template for getting America back to work and I would convene a council to investigate every single corporation that is "too big to fail" and break them up. We used to call that a monopoly. Sometimes the old words are best. I would rescind the Bush Tex cuts immediately and I would increase the amount the rich pay in taxes as part of their American duty. I would demand that all American companies pay their fair share and would cut all the loopholes. I would bring back tariffs to help such patriotic American companies. This would, by necessity be a very long bully pulpit talk.

[vi5]

48. +100

I couldn't agree more with every part of this post.

I went through a period where I really thought Obama was in on the scam and was a "corporatist" or complicit in the GOP schemes. But I'm realizing now that's not the case. He is I think as you said, "inept" as a president.

Putting aside the relentless, obsessive need for compromise, and grand bargains and making history or whatever other compulsions drive him that are helping the republicans destroy this country.

The fact that he is standing up there and saying things that are just idiotic and not true. The stuff about government being just like a family that needs to balance their books.....even bringing social security remotely into the discussion when even the biggest moron around knows that it has nothing to do with the deficit.......I just now believe that he's in way over his head not that he is necessarily malevolent as I was believing for a little while there.

[SammyWinstonJack]

49. How is it moral to offer up the livelihood to the chopping block of millions of

Americans just to appease the greedy? :shrug:

How intelligent is that when seeking a second term? :shrug:


I am guessing his MIL doesn't have to rely on SS/Medicare/Medicaid and so won't be adversely affected by his appeasement. :shrug:

[tavalon]

62. I was making an attempt to separate Obama the man from Obama the inept President

[sulphurdunn]

110. His ineptness

is a matter of fact. His goodness is merely an opinion.

[defendandprotect]

111. Someone "intelligent" isn't going to be "inept" ....

Carter wasn't "inept" -- he was undermined by the CIA working against his

administration in their own fascist interests and in corporate interests.

For one, Carter's hostage rescue missions in the desert saw two or three

helicopters going down because they didn't have the necessary equipment

attached to the engines to keep sand out!

The guy heading up those missions for Carter was OLLIE NORTH --

and SECORD was second in command -- !!

Imo, you're bending over backs not to see the immorality of Obama's decision

as a corporate president --

but there is no escaping that reality from the very first where Obama eloped

into the White House with Koch Bros/DLC Rahm Emmanuel ....


And here are the corporate decisions Rahm "crowed" about while telling corporations

how "grateful" they should be to Obama --


”In a Thursday interview, White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel argued that rather than recoiling against Obama, business leaders should be grateful for his support on at least a half-dozen counts: his advocacy of greater international trade and education reform open markets despite union skepticism; his rejection of calls from some quarters to nationalize banks during the financial meltdown; the rescue of the automobile industry; the fact that the overhaul of health care

preserved the private delivery system;

the fact that billions in the stimulus package benefited business with lucrative new contracts, and that financial regulation reform will take away the uncertainty that existed with a broken, pre-crash regulatory apparatus.




http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=B2F85DDF-18FE-70B2-A835FE1E7FA8D74C

[Beer Snob-50]

58. oh my goodness.....

i am glad you are not my president! lets start..."throw out the faux reporter" yes, i agree that faux news is irresponsible and spews right wing propaganda, but we have FREEDOM OF SPEECH and if morans want to watch it, god save them.

regarding just ending military actions and the military in general. unfortunatly, we are in these messes. we cannot just say "BYE". there are ramifications to doing so.

i agree with ending the bush tax cuts. no problem there. do it now. rich pay their fair share, do it now.

tariffs........what would be the ramifications on our companies trying to do business in other parts of the world. that needs to be thought of, just a fact of life.

[tavalon]

61. First off, that was off the cuff

So, anything said in it was pure fantasy. Second, even if you don't agree with all of my statements, wouldn't be nice to have a President with the spine to stand up there and use the damn bully pulpit?

[Beer Snob-50]

65. granted, pure fantasy.

and yes, while it would be nice to have a president that stood for all we believe in (and yes i would love to have all that you asked for in your speech), it also nice to have a president who can be the adult in the room and follow "you can't always get what want, but if you tried some time you just might find, you get what you need"

[tavalon]

76. His above the fray act is getting you and me in a world of hurt

I'm an adult and I understand there are times when you step up and smack down those who are trying to destroy your country and you do it with regret and aplomb, but you do it. And that is why I think Obama is a poor President. His ice demeanor doesn't help in this situation one bit.

[Raksha]

84. I agree with you 100% about Obama's above the fray act.

It's not only useless but destructive in the present context.

[FedUp_Queer]

81. Oh, Hog Snot.

What a bunch of garbage-ridden drivel. I've wondered for a long time why this president does what he does. Why has he expanded Bagram (Gitmo East)? Why has his justice department asserted complete government immunity from citizen lawsuits over warrantless wiretapping (where Bush's justice department only used the state secrets privilege)? Why did he sign the two-year Bush tax cut extensions (while giving just one year of benefits to the unemployed and nothing for the 99ers)? Why did he drop the public option before even beginning to "negotiate" health care? Why did he make that back room deal with Big Pharma? Why are we now in Yemen, Libya and Somalia? Why did he proposed "shared sacrifice" for the poor and elderly when he proposed huge cuts to Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security (I'm sorry but the only ones have had "shared sacrificed" anything in the last 30 years ARE the poor and middle class)? Why did he hire Geithner and Summers and Rubin (the d-bags) whose actions were at the root causes of this CURRENT and WORSENING mess?

For the longest time, I believed he just couldn't stand up. I couldn't understand why the man who orchestrated the Clinton machine's defeat let these GOPers push him around. Then, it dawned on me. I didn't want to admit what was right in front of my face. He did these things because he was for them. He did these things because he really is a corporatist. I saw his words here: http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/7875 (from someone here on DU, whose moniker I can't recall to give him proper attribution for bringing this to my attention). Then I VERY sadly realized. We elected a corporatist center right DINO. It's sad, yes. But, I for one, cannot escape what's right in front of me. Am I going to believe what people say or what I want to believe or my lying eyes about what he has actually done? I couldn't then and can't now escape the evidence of who this man is. Decent, perhaps, but not a man worthy of the title "community organizer." A man, who seems to have forgotten where he came from...and, more importantly, put him in the office he now occupies.

[BlueCaliDem]

87. What friggin bully pulpit?? Corporate media??

Did you miss how Boehner, the moment he heard about President Obama's request for airtime, immediately requested the same, and he actually got it? Did you ever see Speaker Pelosi get that level of deference from our corporate media during the Bush era?

No wonder a lot of Progressives are upset with President Obama. They're falling for the excellent, fine-tuned marketing skills of the GOP propaganda machine disguised as our Fourth Estate.

To believe this President, or any other Democratic President - let alone Democratic Congresscritters - has a weapon in a defunct "bully pulpit", is to believe the GOP propaganda machine that's replaced our Fourth Estate is "fair and balanced".

[tavalon]

128. I've watched him plenty of times behind the pulpit

He doesn't know how to use it.

[BlueCaliDem]

139. Good thing personal opinion

doesn't constitute fact.

What one might feel he's not taking of advantage of, another might see how he's playing to cards to win. It's just a matter of perspective and personal taste, really.

[Tumbulu]

73. Freedom of speech does not require

us the taxpayers to give free airspace to companies that whip up hate and violence for profit.

One may stand on a corner and do this. But we the taxpayers are not obligated to provide the power of the megaphone to these monsters.

Just a point.

[tavalon]

78. Agreed

That's why if anyone were delusional enough to make me President, I would not only kick them out of the Press Corpse (sp correct given their behavior) but I would look into fixing the cable airwave problems. I don't want opinion shows masquerading as news and fooling, some of our elderly and less critically thinking members.

[RaleighNCDUer]

80. Actually, we CAN just walk away from those wars.

You are worried about the ramifications of leaving? What about the ramifications of staying?

Our presence exacerbates every conflict we're involved in. So Iran will wind up with influence in Iraq. How is that better or worse than Saudia Arabia having influence in Iraq? One is a repressive theocracy - the other a repressive autocracy. Big fucking deal. Maybe thousands WILL die when we leave - know what? Thousands will die WHENEVER we leave. We left Vietnam 'with honor' drawing down slowly, turning out bases and equipment over to the friendly government, and still, once we were gone, they finished it up THEIR way, and thousands died. Difference is, between 1970 and 1974, thousands of Americans ALSO died, along with tens of thousands - maybe hundreds of thousands - of Vietnamese. Had we just packed up and left in 1970, instead of having a long draw-down of forces, hundreds of thousands of lives would have been saved and Vietnam would have been no more communist than it wound up being.

Do you REALLY think Afghanistan will be any less of a basket case in ten years if that ten years is spent blowing shit up there?

[dennis4868]

94. we can just walk away...

okay, I guess you are in the room during the presidents national security meeting? If not, what you say is meaningless!

[RaleighNCDUer]

106. A lot less meaningless than that statement.

Some people actually use logic, reason, and the lessons of history to figure out what is and is not possible.

Some appeal to authority.

My earliest political lesson was 'question authority'.

Obviously yours was different.

[defendandprotect]

102. You can't have it both ways ... either Obama knows what he's doing or he doesn't --

Obama is such an incredibly intelligent, moral, good man, it's really painful for me to realize this late in the game that he's an inept President. He will likely in his future, go on to be an amazing humanitarian like Carter is, but just like Carter, not a good President. And we need, not just a good President, we need a great one in this awful time.

You're in total disagreement with Obama's action, yet you still think he's intelligent --

while, if you had the "bully pulpit" you would show him how it should be done?

Obviously, we'd all do the same things you would do and make the lives of American citizens

better. Ergo, either Obama hasn't a clue and isn't intelligent -- or he has other motives.

You fail to note the leverage that corporations have over presidents whose campaigns they

support and subsidize with their wealth.

Obviously you don't want to see the betrayal of Obama on single payer/MEDICARE FOR ALL --

or on Social Security and Medicare --

The battle is for principles -- not for party and certainly not for any individual -- but

for justice for the American people and the planet.

Obama has completely failed that test -- not because he lacks intelligence, but because

he very obviously is supporting a corporate agenda -- and Repug "trickle down" economics.


We are in a depression -- and Obama is our new Hoover -- !!

[calimary]

127. I particularly love your last paragraph. If I were president, I'd do the same thing, and one more:

I would REREGULATE broadcasting, and restore ownership restrictions. I would also make it so ridiculously and punitively expensive to outsource a single American job that whatever they thought they'd be saving in ten-cent-per-day Chinese or Indian labor compared even to a minimum-wage American worker, they'd have to cough up in fees, taxes, and SEVERE, damn-near back-breaking penalties. Carrot and stick. BIG, BIG, BIG-ASS stick.

I'd also encourage the impeachment of at least one Supreme Court justice. Because to save our country, for real, we HAVE TO shove the Supreme Court slant back toward the left. I'd almost prefer to start with that dunce john roberts. Surely anyone so fucking stupid they can't even get the Presidential Oath of Office straight, especially when they've had at least two months to practice wording that fits on a single 3x5 card, is in NO IMAGINABLE WAY fit to serve as Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. clarence thomas is another matter entirely.

And I'd look into ways we could somehow bring all this CONservative think-tank/foundation infrastructure bullshit that the bad guys have built over the last four decades to its knees. That's the incubator of all these demons and vipers and vermin. That's where they're recruited, birthed, built, nurtured, and groomed to go out and raise havoc.

[Sherman A1]

38. -1

:thumbsdown:

[Flubadubya]

39. That's just a rude, stupid, and asinine statement...

and you know it! It's always good to consider the source, alas. :spank:

[Dawgs]

57. You're right. Those that criticize think he's a terrorist worse than Al Qaeda.

Grow up!

:eyes:

[RaleighNCDUer]

77. No.

Neville Chamberlain was not a Nazi.

[treestar]

107. Isn't it great to finally see the Republicans blamed?

:hi:

[kenfrequed]

116. Full of it.

You sir are entirely full of it.

We criticize President Obama sometimes because we are disappointed in him and because some of us think he could do better. He is reformable.

When we criticize the republicans we do so in a dismissive manner because they are really the opposition and they don't even pretend to be on our side. They are all but immune to empathy and have ideals that are the opposite of ours and follow a corrupt, backwards, political philosophy that is a combination of Survivor with knives and the happy-friendly version of the inquisition.

I have applauded the president when he does the right thing, even if his actions are a hell of a lot more tepid and compromised than I prefer and when he stands up to the GOP rather than roll over, even if it is just a speech I continue to applaud and support him, if only in hopes that it will encourage and rally our Democrats.

[SusanaMontana41]

129. How about "Corporatist" instead of R or D?

Big difference between not liking the policy and not liking the person.

[Number23]

130. You got it. I am literally shocked to see the Republicans FINALLY catch some blame around here

Astounded, really. Such a refreshing change from the usual "Obama bad. Obama bad" bs that blankets DU.

[RKP5637]

4. Yep! n/t

[MannyGoldstein]

5. Each week, about 900 people die because they do not have adequate health insurance

A 9/11 attack every month.

[Hatchling]

16. More will die in the week after SS checks do not go out.

No prescription renewals of life preserving meds.

No groceries.

Less food distributed at the food bank as more people show up. (Food banks hand out very little protein other than dried beans.)

No transportation.

Seniors will do things to save/acquire money that endanger their health, such as not using electricity in spite of the hottest months of year coming up.

Not just people, but pets as well.

No SS check no pet food. (I walked three hours yesterday collecting $4 in recyclables. I spent today in bed shaking with spasms due to aggravation of the spinal cord damage that has me on disability, but that will buy 8 cans of food for my cats.)

Stress from landlords demanding rent and creditors demanding payments will probably claim some of those lives.

Depression will most certainly claim other lives.

[Darkhawk32]

23. And with the Paul Ryan planned destruction of Medicare.....

How many hundreds of thousands will die then?

[midnight]

53. That comparison drives home the terrible neglect that is going on with

inadequate access to health care.

[LaydeeBug]

112. Manny, where did that stat come from?

I'd love to see it. And not because I don't believe you, but because I do.

[Terra Alta]

6. I wonder how many people have been killed by GOPuke policies

in the last 10 years since 9/11? Possibly hundreds, if not thousands, each year. The Republican Party is a threat that needs to be eliminated.

[defendandprotect]

113. That's exactly why Obama needs to stand up against them -- not help them -- !!

[Arugula Latte]

7. Agree.

They slaughter thousands through their brutal policies.

[Change Happens]

8. Agreed!!!! Well said!

[n2doc]

9. toon

[baldguy]

11. +1000

[Glimmer of Hope]

19. I see a revenue source!

[jillan]

20. Excellent!

[bigwillq]

24. wow.

That really makes a point.
:thumbsup:

[tavalon]

79. Even ten years later, that is one gutsy cartoon

I wholeheartedly agree with it, since I've come to see the Repigs as terrorists and the Democrats as appeasers.

[Pharaoh]

10. absolutely correct!

[HereSince1628]

12. Ignorance, allied with power is the most ferocious enemy of justice

James Baldwin.


James Baldwin.

[DinahMoeHum]

14. "Who Needs al-Qaeda When There's The GOP?"

"The War Against Terror" = TWAT

[rpannier]

25. GOP? Who are they

You must mean Al-GOPeda

[TheKentuckian]

17. Thems are the facts.

Appeasement of such folks is a proven to be failed strategy other than as a feint. Twenty solid years and twenty more that were by no means politically hardnosed has brought us to where we are.

Pretending you aren't dealing with scorpions is not only a sure fire loser but actually forms a co-dependent relationship that drives and permits the aggressors to continuously escalate and makes them increasingly dangerous.

[deacon]

18. And murdock has helped them drive this country to economic disaster. n/t

[Dawson Leery]

21. The right wing neo Conservatives

and "Christian" fundamentalists are the greatest threat to this country at this time.

[quarbis]

69. christian fundamentalists

are actively try to bring about "the End Times".

the small c is intended

[Remember Me]

22. Well, near as I can tell, that IS the nature of

fascism and fascists.

[johan helge]

26. Numerically, they kill Americans more than Al Queda

Quotes from http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/30/opinion/30kristof.html:

"A 2004 study by the Institute of Medicine, a branch of the National Academy of Sciences, found that lack of health insurance causes 18,000 unnecessary deaths a year. That’s one person slipping through the cracks and dying every half an hour."

"A study reported in The American Journal of Medicine this month found that 62 percent of American bankruptcies are linked to medical bills."

Imagine what Republicans would say if Democrats defended rules with such consequences, for people and businesses?

[indurancevile]

27. not to mention the many more foreigners they kill

[johan helge]

28. And then there are

the unnecessary wars, as you say, and the links to the tobacco industry.

[DebJ]

29. Yes, selling fear all the time is exactly what terrorists do, by

definition, is it not?

[Enthusiast]

30. There is no question about it.

Their policies and their wars have certainly killed far more than Al Queda.

[flamingdem]

31. The ironic part is that the old school Republicans are just as worried as we are!

How do we get rid of these terror clowns..

[caseymoz]

32. I tend to think that bin Laden was happy at what the US has become. nt

[freshwest]

33. Telling it like it is. No more BS. It is what it is. K & R.

[Raksha]

36. K & R - You're right. I've known it for a while now.

[Major Hogwash]

37. What is sad, is that this is exactly what Osama bin Laden wanted to happen to America.

They've played right into his hands.
They have set Americans against Americans.
And that is why Boehner will not give in to simply raising the debt ceiling.

It would make too much sense.

The two parties are as far apart as they have been in over 40 years.
The Republican party has rushed to the extreme edge of the right, pushed, pulled, and lead by the extremist faction of the GOP, the Tea Party faction.

The Democrats are still inching to the right to try and attract moderates who are starstruck by the tenacity of the Tea Party zealots who would rather destroy this country's credit rating than tax a few 1000 American millionaires and billionaires.

We have become the laughing stock of the rest of the world, crying over raising taxes on the rich and discussing cutting benefits to our people when the people in some European countries have had many more benefits for decades.

But the laughing has stopped and shock has set in, as they realize these are the same kind of people who would vote to attack an innocent sovereign nation after being attacked by a terrorist group, one that wasn't even connected to that country.

Osama bin Laden is dead, alright.
But the damage he has caused to our fragile democratic republic sensibilities continues to this day to fester and will haunt us for many years to come.

[midnight]

90. Ironically Osamba bin Laden has been linked to our CIA.

[barbtries]

40. agreed.

i am so distressed by how much hate they inspire in me. they are fucking this country right the hell UP

[Hubert Flottz]

41. I couldn't have said it better myself!

K&R

[madokie]

42. Very true

[liberal N proud]

43. Al Qaeda is just sitting and watching the GOP destroy America

They don't need to attack.

[O_a_DEMorDINO]

44. The GOP has been at War on America

For Decades, Reagan was the one who formally declared it.

Republicans and TeaHadists along with the ChristoFascists need to be removed from all public offices, they and those that support them are a direct threat to freedom in America and the world.

This is no longer a live and let live situation, these 'people' hate all who do not think, act or believe like them. Being nice will not work, you cannot reason with them.

There will be no reasonable solution, well at least one I can post here, to dealing with them.

If you are friends with them, you too are part of the problem.
If you employ them, you too are part of the problem.
If you vote for them or ever have voted for them, you too are part of the problem.
If you do business with them, you too are part of the problem.

Right now the only reasonable thing one can do with them is cut all ties to them and have nothing to do with them at all.

[socialindependocrat]

99. Isn't this what we broke away from England for?

we came to the US to live in freedom and after it was safe all the rule seeking weenies came over and started to create all the rules we left England to avoid. GOP = WHIGS
You do your thing and I'll do my thing and we will coexist. But, don't get in my face and say that I have to do what YOU want me to do. Who made YOU king? As I have been saying,
"If you want to make a bunch of restrictive laws then, go back to Europe!!"

[humbled_opinion]

126. Yeah but how do you know who they are?

Maybe we need to have some identifying mark put on them?

[Skidmore]

45. The current Republican Party is a creation of Al Qaeda.

Bin Laden understood that there would be reactionaries in the US who would make certain that we went bankrupt over wars and national security. He understood that reactionaries would embrace zealotry and jingoism in response. The New Republicans rose to meet the challenge.

[BREMPRO]

46. they scare me more than Al Qaeda... terrorists who want to impose christian/corporate law on us. nt.

[harun]

47. I can say they are a much bigger threat to me and my family's well-being.

[Roland99]

50. K & f'n R!

[neoralme]

51. That is true. But not just the Republicans. Also their enablers--those

who stand ready and willing to do their bidding while all the time masquerading to be other than what they really are. This combination; this synergistic force is what is bringing us down. But what is running them? It is corporate America. Plain and simple. From Verizon to Comcast. From IBM to Walmart. These people are running the show. And the curtain is beginning to close.

[bertman]

52. Agree 100%. REC. Combined with the Tea Party it's like al Qaeda on steroids. nt

[blkmusclmachine]

54. There's NO effective Opposition Party:

Only the go-along-to-get-along "Democrats," who are nothing more than GOP-lite.

[defendandprotect]

114. +1000% -- and over decades their SILENCE and Koch DLC infiltration has undermiend ....

the party -- the nation -- the Congress --

No one in the Democratic Party wanted to let voters know that Koch Bros were

funding the DLC?

DLC corporate rotting of the party went on for 20 years!!

[emald]

55. Sedition...that's what pee party reps are causing

prison is the answer. Imprison these fools for attempting to subvert our gov.

[ladyfutura]

56. That's too extreme, sorry.

I hate Republican policies too. But let's be more civil.

[kctim]

72. Welcome

You will get used to it, especially if you use facts rather than personal opinions to prove a point.

[RandomKoolzip]

96. There's a time for civility and a time for blunt honesty. The latter obtains presently.

[gordianot]

59. The worst kind of enemy is a domestic enemy.

Republicans are no longer opposition and show loyalty only to themselves. Empathy is weakness to Republicans, lack of empathy is how best to detect them. They transcend gender, ethnic origin, race, religious affiliation, and family. Until they open their mouth they are invisible. In many instance they do not realize the implications of what they promote and merely parrot the talking point and views of others. In some instances they are violent ideological killers while others blend in well in spite of their delusions. The one common thread among the modern Republicans is they are driven by fear and at that many different fears. Fear them and you empower their fears. Approaching Republicans is like approaching an angry dog back away slowly do not show fear or you will get bit. It pays to keep a big stick handy in the words of an archaic progressive Republican.

[LynneSin]

60. I'll take it a step further - it's these tea party idiots

We're being held hostage by some of the most constitutional idiots in this country.

[duhneece]

63. And the majority are Christian terrorists nt

[roguevalley]

66. I agree with the OP.

[Blecht]

68. You are 100% correct

However, only a small percentage of people will believe it.

Why do you think the right wing noise machine screams about liberals being terrorists? The answer is simple -- when somebody accurately states who the real terrorists are, they can write it off as simple "partisan bickering."

[Mosaic]

70. The diabolical plan

Which includes poor whites, the former middle class, is austerity, meaning poverty for the working class. No more middle class. Only the top 1% get to live the good life in their selfish world. After the debt deal, we get austerity, like Greece. Corporations vs. the world at this point. We the people must wake up and put a stop to it soon.

[proud patriot]

71. yep

[Blue Owl]

74. They've crippled our country from within

for the sole purpose of personal greed, in the end. What a tragedy.

[Maineman]

75. I agree.

[pansypoo53219]

82. don't forget the teevee gnews who love them.

and pound on democrats. ooh. look palin. OOH TEABAGGERS. aren't they amusing?

[Firebrand Gary]

83. Agreed

[denverbill]

85. Unreccing. Find the comparison repugnant.

You are no different from Rush Limbaugh and the other right-wing hate mongers who compare say liberals are a bigger danger than terrorists and who call us their enemies.

Republicans are your neighbors, your friends, and probably even your family. Do I find a lot of their policies and viewpoints disgusting? You bet. Do I want to kill them because of their viewpoints? No. If they are a bigger threat than Al Qaeda wouldn't that suggest they should be treated the same or worse than bin Laden?

Greed and selfishness are not the same as murder. If they are too fucking greedy to pay for somebody else's healthcare, it doesn't make them a murderer, it makes them greedy and heartless.

[proud patriot]

86. The OATH OF ALLEGIANCE I affirm for my Job

I take this very seriously:

OATH OF ALLEGIANCE FOR PERSONS EMPLOYED BY A
SCHOOL DISTRICT OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
(Required by Article 20, Section 3, California Constitution)
State of California ) ss
County of San Bernardino )
I, , do
(Type or Print Name)
solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the
United States and the Constitution of the State of California against all enemies,
foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the Constitution
of the United States and the Constitution of the State of California; that I take this
obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I
will well and faithfully discharge the duties upon which I am about to enter.
Signature of Employee
Taken, subscribed and sworn to before me this day , 20
Signature of Authorized Official

[Raksha]

95. I'm in San Bernardino also - not only the county but the city.

It's good to know there's at least one dedicated public servant in this area, although I'm sure you're not the only one.

[proud patriot]

103. I'm not in San Bernadino distrist but another california district

we all take the same oath. Everyone who works for the Californian school district's do.

[valerief]

88. It's so obvious I don't know how anyone could disagree. nt

[ItNerd4life]

89. This is just sick, and for people to support it? Thanks for making DU

look like we're deranged.

I guess 9/11 never happened in your mind?

[Deep13]

98. Two points.

First, he is writing in the present tense. Al Qaeda of today is not what it was ten years ago. Second, the attack on 9/11 horrified people because it was violent and happened all at once. Yet we lose more people in this country every month to traffic accidents than we did to terrorism on 9/11/01. What's the best way to be safe in a post-9/11 world? Wear a seat belt and quit smoking. So I think the OP's observation is well taken.

[pleah]

91. K&R

[oldbanjo]

93. All Republicans are working together

to destroy Obama, by destroying the Unions there will be no middle class. Without a middle class the economy will get worst. The middle class buying things is what makes our economy work. Everything bought has to be made by someone. Without the middle class buying there will never be any jobs.

[Deep13]

97. Fascism at home is always worse than an emeny somewhere else. nt

[defendandprotect]

100. Then why is Obama so accommodating to them ... ?

[louslobbs]

101. Republicans use fear and threats to have their demands met, they sound like terrorists to me.

I think we are all forced to recognize the ugly truth in this matter, plain and simple, the Republican party are domestic terrorists. They might not like the label, but when you act like a terrorist, people call you a terrorist. The only problem is, when will President Obama stop negotiating with the Republican terrorists?
Lou

[Stuart G]

104. k & r thanks for posting...nt

[treestar]

105. K&R

About time the Friggin' Republicans took the heat!!

[kittykitty]

109. K&r

[Fire Walk With Me]

115. Huzzah! Recommending.

[L0oniX]

120. Repukes are political terrorists.

[Zorra]

121. They certainly are. nt

[humbled_opinion]

122. LOL.... They would say the same about Democrats..

and here's why....

No matter what you think, the truth is that Medicare and Social Security as well as the new Afforadable care act, welfare, SCHIP, Medicaid, Emergency relief for the needy, Unemployment compensation, etc, etc, all of the social welfare programs are simply unsustainable.

Everyone of these social programs creates deficit spending which results in increased National Debt. Eventually the debt will become so large a percentage of GDP that America will effectively be Bankrupt. The dollar will crash, the world will shift to a new currency, the standard of living in the USA will crash and people will truly understand what being poor is, I am talking about third world nation poor. Most likely as the Federal government crumbles the States will secede and start new Republics or converge with other countries i.e., the EU, China, even Russia.

You can believe in your heart that taxing the rich will fix this but it won't it can't the unfunded liabilities in the social entitlement programs are so huge that you would need to not just tax but confiscate wealth the rich would revolt and leave the country because you guessed it that option is affordable and available to them.

You can't punish the rich either because they are not altruistic it inevitably results in the cost and effects being passed down onto the middle class don't believe me look up the 1990's yacht tax and why it was repealed.

The ecnomic problems are structural and systemic in the US budgets, you might get some milage on an argument to destroy the DOD and MIC, but many people will revolt against that because they view the military as the source of security and will not stand for that even as Obama launches new wars of choice i.e., Libya, Yemen it is a political loser for him.

So we are back to the argument that social programs need dramatic reform to return to solvency, and Jobs, Jobs, Jobs which if the economy had improved would most certainly have allowed for more rosy scenarios regarding the entitlement programs.

The Cons would say that Democrats by not agreeing to reform and change Medicare and Social Security i.e., means testing, vouchers, age increases, benefit reductions etc... are by their very inaction ensuring that these programs will be forcibly cut through austerity even as the programs slowly destroy the country.

So who is right?

[calimary]

123. They are domestic terrorists. And they should be referred to as such, as often as possible.

Political, social, economic, and domestic TERRORISTS. Hostage-holding, lawless TERRORISTS.

[Tx4obama]

124. Al Franken Unveils Sign During Senate Floor Speech On Debt Crisis: ‘Welcome Terrorists’ - VIDEO

Al Franken Unveils Sign During Senate Floor Speech On Debt Crisis: ‘Welcome Terrorists’ - VIDEO
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1599038

[Dj13Francis]

125. And you know what else?

They're assholes too! Total fucking assholes!

[bvar22]

131. I will give you K&R,

and also include "And the People who HELP them."



"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans.
I want a party that will STAND UP for Working Americans."
---Paul Wellstone

photo by bvar22
Shortly before Sen Wellstone was killed


"By their WORKS you will know them."

[polichick]

132. Accurate and succinct - well done!

[Phlem]

133. Thank You

For saying what some of us have know for a while.

I remember not that long ago that one would get labeled a "Tin Foil Hatter" or some other non sense for vocalizing what you have said.

I'm right there with ya. You see it everyday now, and they don't even care to hide it anymore.

-p

[Darkhawk32]

134. OMG! Didn't expect this sort of response...

It warms my heart to know that there are people out there that are in the same mindset I'm in right now.

[Firebrand Gary]

136. You could not have said it better!

[rury]

135. Truer words were NEVER spoken!!

[McCamy Taylor]

137. I think that the GOP and Al Qaeda share some common interests---like promoting monarchy.

Al Qaeda is Saudi brand Sunni which preaches that God just loooooves an absolute monrach.

The Right Wing in the US is wedded to the Puritan notion that the rich are beloved of God---meaning that the uber rich are the next best thing to God.

[sarcasmo]

138. Right on Mr. Pitt. My advice, stay away from Wall Street on Monday.