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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:25 PM
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The McConnell Proposal, and Real Contradiction
When I was in graduate school, I kinda fell in love with one of the more memorable sayings (there are many) from the work of Deleuze and Guattari. They note, with not a little bit of irony, that "nothing ever died of contradiction." The thrust is a soft criticism of the orthodox Marxists, who continued to believe that the contradictions of capitalism would ultimately force it to a crisis that would lead to revolution; there's a little bit of this thought remaining in some of our own leftists who argue that allowing the social catastrophe of capitalism to play itself out will lead to better social conditions, ultimately. The play, in any case, in one of my favorite slogans, was that logical contradiction is well and fine for the work of logic, but doesn't translate well to material conditions. Moreover, D&G argue throughout their work that capitalism in fact functions through the crises that it creates for itself: the various crises of capitalism merely indicate it reaching a limit that must be overcome, but that's how capitalism works (it's also why the system is disastrous for people) - capitalism is the only human built system that requires the very crises it creates for itself. It's still worthwhile, in any case, to look closely at what might be called real contradiction.

The McConnell proposals is a great example. The Republican Party is the party of the rich, and of finance capital. All its fundamental assumptions and real operations function to expand the power of what we used to call the ruling class, and finance capital - since the early 1970's - is the ruling class in Western democracies, and probably globally. At the same time, the GOP gets elected by whipping up populist fervor against government, and particularly against regulation and taxation (these are clearly the "ideas" of the ruling class) - largely through the mechanism of deficits, which allow them to link the everyday experience of the working class with the interests of the ruling class. The debt ceiling itself is actually just a bone to the populist rhetoric - you need to be at deficits at 15-20% of GDP before borrowing really becomes a problem, and 2011 is the last year where even negative projections put the deficit near those numbers). In this sense, the GOP smooths over the class contradictions inherent in their positions.

But this debt ceiling causes a real problem. The ruling class absolutely needs it raised (in truth, the ruling class doesn't care about deficits until they threaten bond payments, which is not at all the case for the current federal deficits as percentage of GDP, unless you have this false limit of the debt ceiling skewing the whole business). But the manner in which they've argued for themselves means that their populism absolutely prevents it from being raised. This is what the old Marxists used to call a real contradiction.

The McConnell proposal is the only possible solution from the standpoint of this contradiction, which is to say, from the GOP standpoint. Why? because it essentially allows the debt ceiling to be raised, and the GOP MUST raise the debt ceiling. It also allows the GOP to maintain its populist face against raising the debt ceiling by voting for these resolutions of disapproval, which will then be vetoed. The GOP's problem is this, a real contradiction: They MUST raise the debt ceiling, but they MUST NOT raise the debt ceiling. The proposal is the only way to resolve this contradiction in practice.

Of course, as we know, nothing ever died of contradiction...
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Doctor Hurt Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:33 PM
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1. Please tell me
how it's possible to read Deleuze and Guattari sober? I'm very serious here. I can read Derrida, and I can deal with his circumlocutions and neologisms. But Deleuze and Guattari? I took anti-Oedipus to my beach house a few years back, seeing as I hate the beach, and spent the entire two weeks trying to get through the book. Failed. What am I doing wrong?
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:47 PM
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5. I find it remarkably lucid, even funny at times
Edited on Tue Jul-12-11 07:48 PM by alcibiades_mystery
That said, D&G's work (especially Capitalism and Schizophrenia) is really a response to many other works; if you understand how it is responding to those works, then it's fairly clear, to my mind. of course, that means that you have to read Spinoza, Nietzsche, Marx, Freud, Lacan, Clastres, etc. It's really inside baseball in some of the more challenging passages.

I also think about treatises in advanced physics. Nobody would expect to simply pick up a treatise in advanced physics and understand it - or at least nobody who wasn't a trained physicist. But people rarely make the same judgments when it comes to the humanities; they think it should be transparent to a person of ordinary intelligence. I've never quite understood this difference. I guess it has something to do with the popular scientific literature, which has people like Gould explaining evolutionary biology in terms of baseball metaphors and the like, but it still strikes me as weird. I'm not an expert in physics, so I don't expect to pick up works really written for other physicists and grasp them right away. I consider my acknowledgment that I probably don't have the equipment to deal with such arguments to be a form of modesty. Why the same sort of modesty wouldn't operate for literary theory or philosophy remains a mystery to me.
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Doctor Hurt Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:58 PM
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6. I've got a lot of that background under my belt
I minored in philosophy, and am reasonably well-read in most structuralist/post-structuralist/post-modern thought (Lacan, Derrida, Foucault). But I just found it difficult to get anything more out of it than that we are bodies and we are embdedded in a chain-of-being like system of production and consumption...(the body without organs?). Is that it? Have I more or less gotten the point? Or is that just a cursory reading?

I am a physical scientist but I've always liked continental philosophy (although I'm probably a Husserlian phenomenologist if anything). I just want to try and get it.
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denbot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:36 PM
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2. Nice synopsis
K&R
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:39 PM
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3. The McConnell deal seems somewhat questionable
Edited on Tue Jul-12-11 07:42 PM by Proud Liberal Dem
but compared to the alternative (is there one?), I suppose it is worth at least considering. From Obama's standpoint, however, it would seem to be one of those "temporary fixes" that he pledged to reject. The idea of the Republicans using this to continually harass and hound the Dems through to the next election is deeply unsettling though I wonder just how much patience the public would actually have for them continuing to mess with the debt ceiling- essentially forcing us into this drama every few months over something that was repeatedly raised over just the past decade with nary a peep.

If they believe that "the American people" are on THEIR side on this debate (which they seem to be UNTIL they realize what's going to have to get cut if and when the government goes into default), then I don't see why they just go ahead and raise the debt ceiling (or at least allow a vote to proceed) then re-litigate this in 2012?
:shrug:
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 09:22 PM
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10. It is the ONLY move they had that's favorable to them in the least
Of course it is "questionable." It's their attempt to salvage anything from the mess they created.

But that doesn't mean they didn't lose. This is close to worst case scenario for them.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 09:33 PM
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11. Judging by the reaction of Freak Republic alone
I'd say it's baaaaaaaad for them!
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:42 PM
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4. Super post
:applause:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 08:00 PM
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7. k&r...
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 08:05 PM
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8. k/r
:thumbsup:
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 08:23 PM
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9. I am hoping a few will lose their jobs over it. n/t
Edited on Tue Jul-12-11 08:24 PM by hootinholler
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